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Fri 24 Dec 10 10:48

Politician convicted of lying - Iffy

Telling porkies is not a good idea, it's even less of a good idea to do so in court:

tinyurl.com/27yrulv

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Fri 24 Dec 10 12:41

Politician convicted of lying - madf

All these Socialist politicians lie: no better than the other sides who lie as well.

The Socialist ones are , however, naive enough to believe that the law does not apply to them so they lie where there is legal redress.

See all the pending prosecutions for MPs' expenses and the mix of political parties...which proves the above..

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Fri 24 Dec 10 12:47

Politician convicted of lying - Zero

Its not a uniquely socialist domain.

How can you tell when any politician is lying.

Answer?

His mouth is open.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 12:52

Politician convicted of lying - BobbyG

Its the utter arrogance of the man who stands publicly on a pedestal of supposed principles and a "people's man" but behind the scenes is corrupt, sleazy and willing to put everyone including his wife through the courts for his own vendetta.

One of the claims was he took part in 3 in a bed sex sessions which he denied, well where he is going he may well not have any option!!

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Fri 24 Dec 10 13:06

Politician convicted of lying - Iffy

Cupid's - the "seedy swingers' club" - is in Manchester.

We should send Rattolo on a site visit.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 14:11

Politician convicted of lying - madf

>> Its the utter arrogance of the man who stands publicly on a pedestal of supposed
>> principles and a "people's man" but behind the scenes is .. sleazy>>

Just like John Major then and Back To Basics?

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Fri 24 Dec 10 14:25

Politician convicted of lying - Armel Coussine

Somehow cobbling together a misleading impression is not the same as lying. Of course it seems a particularly nasty form of lying to those who have been taken in and then disappointed, and they say so. But they are wrong.

Lying in this case means deliberately making untrue statements to a court or before parliament. Politicians are often, though not always, highly skilled in the first practice which is after all an important part of their stock in trade. Being caught out in the other thing can destroy them.

It is of course particularly stupid and vainglorious to sue for libel and then lie in court. Greedy too. No one sympathises with people who do that, from Oscar Wilde down to this fellow in Scotland. His ideological bent has nothing whatsoever to do with the case.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 14:31

Politician convicted of lying - Bromptonaut

>> The Socialist ones are , however, naive enough to believe that the law does not
>> apply to them so they lie where there is legal redress.

The conviction in this case was for perjury; giving evidence knowing it to be untrue. The last two high profile politicos convicted of that offence were Archer and Aitken. Neither was a socialist.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:04

Politician convicted of lying - Robin O'Reliant

Like everything in The Daily mash, not for the easily offended but hilarious -

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/sheridan-facing-three%11in%11a%11bed-sex-sessions-whether-he-likes-it-or-not-201012243387/

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:24

Politician convicted of lying - Mike Hannon

Yes, Rattle - a fact finding mission is definitely required. Might sort out one or two other issues you've mentioned recently... ;-)

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:30

Politician convicted of lying - Tooslow

if Mrs Sheridan frequents these places I'd stay away!
John

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:37

Politician convicted of lying - scousehonda

"if Mrs Sheridan frequents these places I'd stay away!"

You speak for yourself!

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:39

Politician convicted of lying - Tooslow

tinyurl.com/232vmed

:-)
John

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:41

Politician convicted of lying - scousehonda

Are they for me or for her?

One proviso, by the way. She'd have to give written assurances that she wouldn't speak.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 15:45

Politician convicted of lying - Tooslow

Good point. I've not seen you. She may be getting the better part of the bargain, assuming you're bald, cross eyed, toothless, with a broken nose, facial scars and a mega-twitch. Otherwise you might want one of these tinyurl.com/3xe4y3u

:-)

John

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Fri 24 Dec 10 16:03

Politician convicted of lying - Stuartli

If politicians were normally convicted of lying, there wouldn't be one left in the country (hooray!)

I include local council politicians, often far worse than their national colleagues in a number of areas.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 17:51

Politician convicted of lying - Armel Coussine

Politicians mislead and cajole without, usually, actually lying to the House or their constituents. Lawyers quite often distort the truth and represent, successfully, utter villains they know to be guilty, without, usually, committing imprisonable perjury. A lot of businessmen and entrepreneurs rob and ruin and waste and trash without, usually, breaking the law.

This is the cartload of monkeys we are and have to deal with, through the complicated mechanisms that so annoy and puzzle us all.

Reform is so slow, three forward, two back, then two forward, three back, ad infinitum. Revolution is risky, painful and often lethal for huge numbers of people, deeply corrupting and nearly always more disaster than benefit.

A thumbnail sketch of part of the human condition, which after all could be worse for quite a lot of us. Keep your head down and fingers crossed.

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Fri 24 Dec 10 18:41

Politician convicted of lying - Falkirk Bairn

He had a seat on Glasgow Council in the 1990's
He had a seat in the Scottish Parliament in the 2000's

He will undoubtedly get a bed or a good number years in the 2010's

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Wed 26 Jan 11 13:44

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - Iffy

Tommy Sheridan got three years:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12280552

He is now bleating about an appeal and pursuing the News of the World over phone hacking.

There's only one thing you can be sure about with Mr Sheridan - you cannot believe a word he says.

Moved into this thread for more context

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Wed 26 Jan 11 13:48

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - R.P.

Saw the courthouse press conference - ugly bunch.

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Wed 26 Jan 11 13:52

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - Armel Coussine

>> ugly bunch.

Who, PU? The hacks, the lawyers, the court officials or all of them?

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Wed 26 Jan 11 13:53

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - R.P.

No the friends and family......several bulldogs chewing wasps - both male and female (to be balanced)

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Wed 26 Jan 11 13:58

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - Armel Coussine

>> the friends and family......several bulldogs chewing wasps - both male and female (to be balanced)

Everyone else elegant, handsome and obviously very nice then? Even the hacks PU?

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Wed 26 Jan 11 14:48

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - R.P.

Even the hacks AC.

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Wed 26 Jan 11 14:50

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - Iffy

...Even the hacks AC...

And the one with the broadest smile was from the News of the World.

I see Tommy's mam shouted out he's a man who cannot be bought.

Perhaps hell give the NoW its £300,000 back.

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Wed 26 Jan 11 18:25

Westminster Expenses - another guilty - Falkirk Bairn

Several tanning salons filed for bankruptcy after today's sentence on Tommy - he has maintained employment for may salons over the years.

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