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I guess he won't be getting the Trident keys to go home over Christmas - and he'll probably be cancelling his Sky package as well !
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For a supposedly intelligent and astute politician, he's a bit gobby!
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His reputation is that of a non team player...
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Assuming that David Laws gets just a little slap on the wrist from the parliamentary body, David Cameron will be keen to bring him back into government, in a senior role (but without upsetting the con:libdem balance). Vince may just have created the right vacancy for Laws!
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>> Vince may just have created the right vacancy for Laws!
Fingers crossed!
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It is reported that V Cable only opens his mouth to yawn or to change his feet over!
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He cannot possibly last. And I bet there's more on that tape.... just being saved up as a Christmas present. Remember how the news about the MP's - was it Jacqui Smith's - husband who rented a porno film on the taxpayer - and how it was some weeks before the rest of it came out.
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I thought Cable was meant to be one the sharper cookies in the LibDem jar.
Doesn't say a lot for the rest.
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Excellent honey trap by the Telegraph though - he must have had a habit of gobbing of to the ladies for him to have been set up thus.
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>> Excellent honey trap by the Telegraph though - he must have had a habit of
>> gobbing of to the ladies for him to have been set up thus.
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Yes, he did a bit of gobbing different things to different journalists during the Student Fees saga too.
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>> Excellent honey trap by the Telegraph though -
Not the Torygraph's finest hour. They were happy to keep it quiet if Murdoch was going to lose out. None of the parties involved are really any better than Cable.
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...They were happy to keep it quiet if Murdoch was going to lose out...
Possibly.
Another interpretation is the Telegraph had their own way with the expenses story and got a succession of front page exclusives out if it.
This was never going to be that big, but I suspect they hoped to keep it running for a few days.
They would have known the Murdoch line was going to come out sooner rather than later.
No chance of keeping that quiet with transcripts lying around.
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>> Not the Torygraph's finest hour.
As a long-standing Telegraph reader, I admit to disappointment in the way they've done this. It's more News of the World tactics.
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>> As a long-standing Telegraph reader, I admit to disappointment in the way they've done this. It's more News of the World tactics. >>
My thoughts precisely!
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>> >> As a long-standing Telegraph reader, I admit to disappointment in the way they've done
>> this. It's more News of the World tactics. >>
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>> My thoughts precisely!
Yes, the Daily Torygraph, a fifth columnist no less, who'd a believed it.
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According to Robert Peston, The Telegraph hid this bit from a "full transcript" which was published by them earlier.
This bit came out only because someone leaked the full tape to Pestop:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12053656
Robert Peston said the transcript had been passed to him by a whistleblower upset that The Daily Telegraph had not published it in full.
In extracts already published by the newspaper, Mr Cable revealed his concerns about the coalition to reporters posing as constituents.
Mr Peston said the Telegraph had chosen not to publish the "most explosive" part of the investigation, relating to the BSkyB takeover, but a spokesman for the newspaper said: "We have made clear both in the paper today and in interviews that we will be publishing further comments in the forthcoming days."
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I see Cable is to continue but have no input into the NewsCorp/BSkyB takeover.
Shameful that he cannot be trusted to do a straight job of it.
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>> it was some weeks before the rest of it came out.
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Couldn't have been a very good film then!
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Right - I have decided,
Cable wins the Stupid Old Git award.
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>> Cable wins the Stupid Old Git award.
In my view, Z, it's a title he's long held. While many were lauding him as the voice of sense and reason during the financial turbulence, I thought he was spouting a lot of dangerous nonsense, and little** he has said since then has improved my view of him. The sooner he is eased out of a post with any responsibility, the better!
** Once or twice, he has done well and delivered unpalatable views and policies in the house of commons, but, I don't for a second imagine these were his own brainchild, it was just him loyally towing the shrewder coalition line.
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>> Cable wins the Stupid Old Git award.
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Poor judgement, but doesn't everybody think Newscorp needs taking down a peg?
He's a fool not to content himself with just thinking it, he might have succeeded then.
Hypocritical of others to condemn him for partiality when most of them must agree with him.
I'm very annoyed with him - he could have stuck one up Newscorp had he not been a SOG.
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Well no need to fire the sanctimonious old idiot.. Or even brief against him.. He does it all himself...
There was a thread about the Lib Dems being polititically stupid and bound for self destruction?
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>> I'm very annoyed with him - he could have stuck one up Newscorp had he
>> not been a SOG.
Exactly, thats what got him the award.
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Looks like Liberal voters have discovered that Vince Cable is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.
It is embarrassing, no doubt, but I hope he hangs on.
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But in fairness quite funny - we've all said silly things in unguarded moments !
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We arent government ministers though.
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>> We arent government ministers though.
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And VC is not yet used to being one because he never in a million years ever expected to be one.
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>>And VC is not yet used to being one because he never in a million years ever expected to be one.
Too true, Cheddar. I'm not sure I approve of the Telegraph, I feel it somewhat unpatriotic to try to destabilise the Government in a time of National Emergency. But the whole raft of Lib Dems shouting their mouth this morning off suggests they really haven't understood what it means to be in Government.
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>> Too true, Cheddar. I'm not sure I approve of the Telegraph, I feel it somewhat
>> unpatriotic to try to destabilise the Government in a time of National Emergency.
You fail to recall that the once Deputy Ed of the DT until very recntly was Mr Heffer who is strongly pro UKIP and hates Cameron personally - or so it appears from his writing.
The Telegraph are the paper which did over Osbourne re the yacht and would rather Mrs Thatcher were disinterred and made PM for eternity except she's a bit left wing and wet. Cuts are a good thing according to the DT except when they hit the middle classes when they are a bad thing.
Nothing wrong with the DT : it lights fires well..
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>>Nothing wrong with the DT
Absolutely, madf's points have hit the nail on the head as to why the DT is the best paper available by a country mile.
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Most people buy news papers to confirm their own prejudices. Far more interesting to read a different paper each day and see the world from a different perspective to your own.
They all have strengths and weaknesses. I doubt that there are many Guardian readers on this forum but it has, for example, probably the bets arts and science coverage. Telegraph very good on factual reporting, Times sports coverage is the best I think. Express best on Princess Di!
Quite like that new I paper form the Independant stable - very good value for 20p if you want a quick summary of the news.
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>> But in fairness quite funny - we've all said silly things in unguarded moments !
I tend to post them here. Oops.
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Poor Vince Cable, done over by giggling hackettes. His fault though one has to admit.
He's right about the Digger though. And I like the hat.
Why all the astonishment over the Terrorflag going all tabloid? It's been going that way for several years. Last decent editor was Max Hastings. Its new owners are well creepy. As bad as the Digger in fact although not so rich and powerful.
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Of course there's nothing to say that these hacks, even if they had been the common or garden constituents Mr. Cable had believed they were, wouldn't have run off to the press with his comments anyway. Either way, his remarks were very risky, and indicative of someone with scarcely believable naivety.
The cynic in me can't help thinking this is just another typically unprincipled career politician simply saying what he thinks the audience he is addressing at the time wants to hear. After the PR disaster for the Lib Dems over the tuition fees debate, he probably thought this kind of tough "we're calling the shots" talk would improve the party's standing.
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Vince Cable has cooked his Goose!
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Me thinks that Vince Cable is more cut out to be a civil servant that a politician. Yes VC could have perhaps damaged the coalition though all he has done is marginalised himself, in that regard the DT have done Cameron a favour perhaps.
I am a fan of the coalition, I voted Conserative though am quite happy about the outcome because it (to an extent) provides a non party political platform for the difficult though neccessary fiscal measures - and frankly Cameron is head and shoulders above anyone else who pretends to be PM currently.
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No doubt the Conservatives cannot believe their luck.. or rather perhaps the more astute have been waiting for this to happen..
It's all very well being a principled politician etc but if you lack practical experience and can't make things happen , you end up like Obama - or the Tea Party will if they ever gain power in the US..
Add to the fact Cable is like a weathercock... and I would imagine Cameron is secretly delighted as the LD -who could do the Coalition most damage by resigning - has made himself look like a 5 year old telling stories out of school...
Couldn't happen to a nicer chap (except for that nice Mr E Miliband)
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>>(except for that nice Mr E Miliband)
Please forgive me, but, am I alone in being reminded of the animated characters created by Nick Park whenever I see Wallace, sorry Ed Milibland?
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You were up until then. I see what you mean :-)
John
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Hehe,
So who's Labour's Gromit then, on the basis of Gromit's creativity and fortitude there are not many candidates ....
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>> So who's Labour's Gromit then, on the basis of Gromit's creativity and fortitude there are
>> not many candidates ....
Well Mo Mowlam had both. And so did Robin Cook. And Donald Dewar. And John Smith. Mmmm ....
There are some living examples, but they get marginalised.
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>> There are some living examples, but they get marginalised.
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To be fair John Reid perhaps ...
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>> >>(except for that nice Mr E Miliband)
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>> Please forgive me, but, am I alone in being reminded of the animated characters created
>> by Nick Park whenever I see Wallace, sorry Ed Milibland?
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Count me out. They were interesting and has character.
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>> >>(except for that nice Mr E Miliband)
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>> Please forgive me, but, am I alone in being reminded of the animated characters created
>> by Nick Park whenever I see Wallace, sorry Ed Milibland?
No, you are not alone, although I would say Ed M. is more Gromit than Wallace. Nick Clegg always reminds me of a jack in the box, the way his upper body sways from side to side, and his arms bounce around. And then there is Gove, who reminds me of a ventriloquist's dummy, and the New Show have done that one well.
Ed Milibland!!! Very droll. Apt though. He is a bit of a political suicide bomber.
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Vince Cable. - Zero
