A thread to mark the 50th anniversary of Coronation Street.
I'm tempted to watch the re-run of the first episode tonight, although I stopped watching the programme when they put it on nearly every night.
Twice a week was a treat, but several times a week looked more like a chore to me.
I'll probably avoid watching tonight's special tram crash episode for fear of getting hooked again.
What's your view of Coronation Street?
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Its a pity nuclear waste is not carried on the viaduct.
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>> What's your view of Coronation Street?
Horrible. Ditto Eastenders and any similar. One of the lowest sorts of "light entertainment" on.
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"One of the lowest sorts of "light entertainment" on."
What's low about it? It may not be Shakespeare but it is inventive, original, reflects life, is often amusing and is easy watching. Of its genre Coronation street is one of the best,
I like reading good literature but I also enjoy reading crime novels and thrillers , Same thing with TV. Sometimes Coronation Street is just what you want to watch.
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Has the crash actually happened yet?
Not watched it properly for years, but will tune in for the disaster.
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I understand rattle's tram visits the street tonight.
And, it wouldn't make much difference even if it was carrying nuclear waste, if this clip is anywhere near the truth:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJflu7z4QyI
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What's your view of Coronation Street?
Watched a couple of episodes when compelled by living in a flat share in the early 1970s. (Note: One TV set in a house was luxury then!)
Thought it was carp and never watched it since.
Well, you did ask.
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Not really a programme for Savveners........just a reflection of our miserable life up here in t'Noorth.
I'll be glued to the screen with my cloth cap on....trying to pick up continuity errors. One of our best friends is a continuity editor on the soap
Not a real viaduct, and no overhead cable that I can see....so they must be pushing the tram between Manchester and wherever it's supposed to be going. Been on the tram today, i had my fingers crossed when we went over the Castlefield viaducts !
Emmerdale is a must, it's the only fresh air I get.
Not seen Eastenders for years..
Ted
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If it is a soap, I don't watch any of them having once seen an episode of Crossroads.
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Aye I like it - some brilliant humour in it. Has anyone noticed when particular characters have been on over the last couple of weeks that a tram is heard rattling away in the background, some harbinger of doom ?
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Think the last time I watched it was when some bloke got run over by a tram.
Last edited by: mikeyb on Mon 6 Dec 10 at 19:09
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>>Think the last time I watched it was when some bloke got run over by a tram.
You've got some catching up to do.
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Yea! ... I'm a'gonna go and watch it now, and I'll watch the crash later.
Haven't watched it for decades though - I used to watch it when Ena, Minni, and Martha were in the snug ;)
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- - ->Old Dog<- - -
Yeah - I enjoyed seeing Ken, Deirdre, Rita etc., then there were Elsie, Dennis, Uncle Albert, Florrie, Annie etc., etc.,
Great stuff!
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I watched the crash
what a crappy piece of CGI
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>> I watched the crash
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>> what a crappy piece of CGI
Yeah, it was as if they decided to spend a bit of cash on some CGI trickery...but then saw the estimated bill, and asked for the discount package.
Not a bad disaster sequence on the whole though.
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..reckoned to be a million quids worth.
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Watched the first one.
Ena Sharples to Florrie Linley: "You're from Esmeralda Street, aren't you?
"They're very bay window in Esmeralda Street."
Top stuff.
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>> .............. a tram is heard
>> rattling away in the background, .............
I think it's part of the introduction of background noise ~ a modern trend for some reason. With my hearing deteriorating with advancing years, I'd sooner not have any background noise I just want to hear the speech.
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Surely you are a Suvvener?
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I used to watch it in the days of Len, Ena and Eddie, haven't watched it since Len got the boot.
Nor any other soap, as for Mind Benders there's not enough money in the country to compensate for the mental anguish.
Dry-Paint-Like-Watching
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I have watched every esposide from about 1990 (when I was 8) onwards. It is a big part of Manchester and I know so many people that work on it.
Thankfully I took the car instead of the tram this evening so I wasn't effected by the crash :p.
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The tram wasn't very realistic but I think the ' wreckage ' shots may be better.
No mention in the run-up about the poor driver or if there were any passengers.
They're normally crowded.
Looks like maybe John will have found the perfect result to his acquainting Charlotte's head with the coal hammer 10 minutes prior to the crash !
Enjoyed the 1960 episode. Mending his bike in the front room ? Brave man !
Ted
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It may have been an out of service tram they are quite frequent in the evening.
The main issue seems to be that the tram coming down the line was a T68 and the train which fell of the line was a Bombardier Flexity Swift.
Oh dear.
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Think you need to get out more Rats
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Not many people would have spotted that - one scene I particularly liked was the inside view from the tram and the windscreen reflecting the driver's face. That was good. Poor old Rita bombarded to death by hundreds and thousands !
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I use the trams every week so I do take an interest. I am sure if it was a car crash and a BMW 3 series became a Merc C class people on here would notice!
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Is anyone giving odds as to who has had their last pint in the Rovers?
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Lovely Rita
Molly the Trollop
Gurneying Nick
Ickle Ashlee
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was minnie cauldwells cat called tiddles?
last soap i watched was emmerdale farm 25 years ago with ma sugden in charge.
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Tis criminal that such drivel should be inflicted upon us, thankfully we can choose to view elsewhere or not at all - though think how many lifetimes have been wasted vegitating in front of this stuff.
Now if it were Baywatch ... ...
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emmerdale farm; those were the days!!
When I was a lad Esholt was something you smelled on a dank day; never imagined it as a tourist attraction.
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>> emmerdale farm; those were the days!!
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>> When I was a lad Esholt was something you smelled on a dank day; never
>> imagined it as a tourist attraction.
When the Esholt main sewer was opened in the 20s, the counsellors and bigwigs rode through it in Jowett cars.
I just thought you ought to know that !
Gawd, I'm turning into Rattle !
Ted
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>> When the Esholt main sewer was opened in the 20s, the counsellors and bigwigs rode
>> through it in Jowett cars.
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And another motoring connection
During the seventies the Esholt area hosted 'special stages' in the RAC Rally.
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>> was minnie cauldwells cat called tiddles?
No, it was Bobby.
Sad bit of trivia I picked up at a quiz night somewhere.
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>> Poor old Rita bombarded to death by hundreds and thousands !
She's obviously been topped !
I'll g.........etc.
Ted
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Its a sticky ending for sure.
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If Owen Armstrong gets the job of rebuilding Coronation Street and the viaduct it could take years.
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Have seen better special effects on Thunderbirds.
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I do hope Mr Swindley survived.
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>>I do hope Mr Swindley survived<<
And you reckon I'm old :-D
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>>Touche :-(<<
You're only as old as the Woman you feel :)
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How old is the Rovers Return Pub?
A quick look at images of it show it's got stretcher bond brickwork suggesting the new builders who perhaps knew no better have followed modern building practice.
As you know, I don't watch the carp but I'm with Rattle on detail.
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>> A quick look at images of it show it's got stretcher bond brickwork suggesting the new
>> builders who perhaps knew
Well it is a fake street build in more recent years. Certainly not the same set used back 50 years ago.
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Just watched tonight's....gonna have a lie down, I'm emotionally overextended now !
Ted
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Glad I don't live in Manchester if it takes that long for the emergency services to turn up.
Pat
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It's now a couple of days isn't it ;-) Seriously they'd have turned up earlier.
The excuse from the first to arrive is a pile up on the M62. If this happened for real they'd send units from slightly further afield. Maybe 'Weatherfield' is quite far from ambulance and fire engine stations?
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I don't know Manchester City centre very well but whenever I used to deliver here
tinyurl.com/3x5lcr7
I always imagined that Coronation Street was just under the arch at the end of the road:)
Pat
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Given the number of major incidents, accidents, murders and deaths that take place in that small postcode, how on earth do they get car or house insurance?
The premiums must be HUGE
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If I lived there I'd move to somewhere quiet like Midsomer.
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The city centre is full of viaducts due to amount of railway systems he city has. The viaduct on the Coronation Street set is actually fake.
Corrie is filmed in Castlefield just on the border of Salford. I am never quite sure where Wetherfield is supposed to be. It is supposed to be based on Salford but they have mentioned Salford quite a few times in the soap.
Certainly the River Irwell runs through Weatherfield but it has its own canal system.
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I don't like disappointing you like this, Rattle, but....
Its fiction...
It doesn't exist anywhere in the real world except at the Studios where its filmed...
Apologies if I've spoiled it for anyone....
Bring back Minnie Caldwell!! :-)
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In fairness to Rattle Weatherfiled was always meant to be "near Salford"
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Not in the Temperance Street area, Pat.....Put Water Street into Google Saf and you'll see Coronation Street actually marked. You can zoom in and see people in the street !. No viaduct at the end of the street but a few nearby.
The worlds first railway station just on Liverpool Road nearby.
Temperance Street is between two lots of arches, Piccadilly Station and Mayfield Street station...disused now but may be re-opened.
Ted
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It's also in two parts divided by a dual carriageway, and if you go down the wrong half with an artic looking for door numbers, it can be impossible to turn round...I know I made that mistake:(
Pat
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The future use of Mayfield station has been debated for years. It is a damn shame it has become such a state. It would be the obvious choice for the HS2 route as Picciddily cannot be used as all stations on the HS2 have to be seperate from the exisiting system.
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Indeed when Corrie started in 1960 it was actually set in Salford with a fake area called Weatherfield. As the programme grew for political reasons it had to be a seperate town so far a long time it was Weatherfield which one assumed was in the Greater Manchester area. Maybe the 11th borough of Greater Manchester (there is actualy then, Manchester, Salford, Trafford, Bolton, Wigan, Rochdale, Bury, Stockport, Tameside and Oldham).
In recent times Corrie has been kean to make clear that it is apart of Manchester and thus GMPTE style bus stops etc.
I have an 1980's map of Wethersfield in a book some where it would be interesting to see if by following the Irwell countours if I could actually place Wetherfield on a real map.
The major problem of course of Wetherfield is it is far too small to be a proper Borough. Take Trafford for example that includes areas as far north as Old Trafford and as far south as Hale Barns.
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t doesn't exist anywhere in the real world except at the Studios where its filmed...
Oh come on. Next you will be telling us there's no such place as Ambridge and Eddy Grundy.
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www.archersanarchists.com/
The Archers arereal, they are not a cast. This site doesn't do this Wikileak type group any justice, their traditional media versions are far superior and not as vulnerable as the electronic media to hacking, maybe Julian has something to learn here !
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Great site PU . Have just voted for wanting Hellin to give birth to a goat. Feel so much better now!
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I find the official site more rewarding:
www.thearchers.co.uk/
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But it did exist. The original set was a real street and then they moved to indoor set for the outdoor set when the programme got bigger. Sometime in 1970's the railway goods warehouse next to the studios closed and Granada bought some more land. They built an outside set on the land in 1982 and this is the set which is used today.
Corrie is very real for the 1000 or so people who live in Manchester that make a living from it. Quite a few of my customers directly or indirectly get their income from corrie.
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I quite fancy a dum-di-dum tea towel.
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Sadly, Humph, I already have one - not sure whether it survived recent clothing audits..
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>> Oh come on. Next you will be telling us there's no such place as Ambridge
>> and Eddy Grundy.
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Don't want to spoil it for all the soap fanatics... ;-)
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Anyway, back to real life.
We got a copy of the Weatherfield Gazette delivered yesterday. Plenty of news about the crash, as expected. The preliminary findings by the Rail Accident Investigation people seems to indicate no fault with the tram and puts no blame on Metrolink
The tram was empty and on it's way back to the depot. The driver is still missing but has been hailed as a hero for managing to scrub off a lot of the speed by the time of impact.
Can't understand these people who think it's all made up......like Eastenders !
Ted.
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...The preliminary findings by the Rail Accident Investigation people...
The Gazette's done well to get something out of the accident investigators in less than a week.
It would normally take at least a year.
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To be fair GMPTE have stressed all long that the storyline can only go ahead if it puts GMPTE and Metrolink in a good light.
One of the clubs I sometimes go to is under a railway arch but I am pretty sure if there was a gas explosion it wouldn't take the railway down with it - it seems too risky.
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...to be fair GMPTE have stressed all long that the storyline can only go ahead if it puts GMPTE and Metrolink in a good light...
GMPTE don't have a great deal of say in the matter, although they may have offered their cooperation and technical advice on certain understandings.
Also you have mentioned before the Street is very much a local business.
The producers probably wouldn't want to fall out with local organisations such as councils and so on.
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But the tram clearly uses the Metrolink trademark and liverly so it is very much GMPTEs business. Even the tram driver had the Metrolink uniform on it. If this was a Wethersfield branded tram then yes it is not of their business. But GMPTE own all the branding uses in the crash so they do have a say for that very reason.
I have noticed a few times their police sation has the logo "North West Police" instead of the GMP logo. Only a few years ago the coppers in it were cearly GMP ones so I assume they were told they could no longer use GMP as the police force.
My sister pointed out too rather geekily that the firemen in the crash were actually from Cheshire fire brigade and not Greater Mancheste fire service
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Rattle you could point out to her that it is totally in keeping with the script - There was a "bad smash" on the M60 or M62 so feasible that Cheshire crews were brought in....
On a separate note not sure how all the Street residents get those amazing tans !
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I did think of that but there are so many other fire stations in the area unless Barton bridge fell down I am not sure how bad an accident has to be for it to take up 100s of fire engines.
The Alderly Edge area is probably the nearest area in Cheshire to Greater Manchester so that is a long way to travel to the Salford area. I know I am being a bit silly now btw :).
Another issue pointed out on other forums is that the destination board was let up after the tram had crashed. Surely this is powered only the pantograph? Of course there would be other lights which are battery powered though.
It is the life esposide tonight so you will probably find hair styles have changed slightly and that the tans of vanished! Also you will probably find some extra wrinkles.
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>> On a separate note not sure how all the Street residents get those amazing tans
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Audrey Roberts' sunbed.
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...But the tram clearly uses the Metrolink trademark and liverly so it is very much GMPTEs business...
As I said Rattle, it looks as if GMPTE has done a deal with the producers, in this case over the use of its logo.
There might be a background to the replacement of GMP with 'North West Poiice'.
Perhaps the producers did upset GMP by having a bent copper storyline, or one in which the police were portrayed in a less than favourable light.
If you've got the chief constable on the phone bleating about something or other, dropping any reference to GMP is the simplest solution.
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There have been a few incidents, the copper beating up Les was one of them. I am sure there was a bent cop in it a bit more recently too. So yes the easiest thing is to change for the force. I wonder how the Bill got round this issue as that was clearly apart of the Met.
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Certainly many real Met Police "thrived" during the filming of the Bill.
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The Bill wasnt "like" the met, it was based on the Met.
Sun Hill was an office/warehouse on a trading estate in Merton, it had two entrances, one was done up like Sun Hill Met Police Station, the other was done up like the entrance to Sun Hill casualty.
All the internal shots were filmed inside the warehouse, and outside locations were spread all round south and West London.
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>> My sister pointed out too rather geekily that the firemen in the crash were actually from
>> Cheshire fire brigade and not Greater Mancheste fire service
It would be quite quick for Cheshire Fire service to get from Warrington to 'Weatherfield' by travelling down the M62.
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Never thought of that, espcially as Weatherfield could well turn out to be the Irlam/Caddishead area of Salford. I think Salford shares its borders with Warrington at some point too.
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Maybe you can outgeek your sister now Rattle ! That'll learn her.
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I am too sure, her boyfriend is a fireman for GMFS so he will probably come up with another answer!
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>> ...The preliminary findings by the Rail Accident Investigation people...
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>> The Gazette's done well to get something out of the accident investigators in less than
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They were considerably faster than the emergency services then. I think he has just put in a requests. "Make pumps 2"
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It's not real, you know.
Pat
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Unlike the Archers of course.
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And Emmerdale, that's real, it's where Iffy lives at the weekend.
Pat
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...it's where Iffy lives at the weekend...
Happen as not I do, Mr Wilkes.
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Just could believe the quality of tonights live eposide. I couldn't tell it was live at all. It was simply brilliant.
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It was very good live acting by all involved.
I wish somone had stuck something in Fizz's big mouth...( Stop it BBD )....All that screaming...I've had 3 kids with no pain at all....unless you count the hard chair I had to sit on for hours next to SWMBO.....
.....and I missed the last episode of something I'd been following !
Ted
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Comment made here if Fuzz had had her gob open at the moment the tram came off the rail she could have swallowed it whole.
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If ever so slightly potty ! I really must e-mail Vanessa Whitburn.
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Manchester must be in another time zone, it hasn't got light for 3 days.
Pat
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Would someone who lives in the Manchester area tell them about Rita - before its too late!
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>>Would someone who lives in the Manchester area tell them about Rita - before its too late!
Hundreds and thousands already have.
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They can't find her for toffee....
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Give them time - they've got allsorts of people to find.
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>>Hundreds and thousands already have<<
I'm quite serious about this C/S - I'm on the verge of flying up there from Newquay myself.
It isn't just a soap - its live, they said so on the telly.
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Are you a Search Dog then ? If so book the plane - no doubt Rats will put you up.
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>>no doubt Rats will put you up.<<
Yeah, that's what concerns me :) My R/Ridgeback would find her (A Hound) can smell a bacon sarnie @ 50 paces!
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Good job its not a truffle hound,
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Go for it Dog. Let us know how you get on.
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Rita wasn't harmed by the tram at all - she was knocked over by a dozens of Double Deckers !
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Wouldn't have happened on a Quality Street.
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Seems like we'll have to send her Roses - her predicament has become a Marathon
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We might have to resort to black magic.
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Well there will be Celebrations when the Heroes find her !
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They'll almost certainly be in for a bounty.
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Well its no Picnic in there.
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She'll be found some time After Eight.
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With ambulances a bit thin on the ground, they'll probably send her to hospital in a taxi.
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Someone will have to Wispa her whereabouts though !
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>>Wispa
Never know, a pedant might find her.
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No doubt now, no doubt a sound thrashing with a stick of rock for indiscriminate use of capital letters as well !
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I used virtual capital letters.
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From the BBC News Website - The live 50th anniversary episode of Coronation Street attracted an average audience of 14 million people, according to overnight figures.
No wonder the M11 was very clear for me coming down from Cambridge area yesterday evening. It was eerily quiet.
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>>The live 50th anniversary episode of Coronation Street attracted an average audience of 14 million people<<
That's a lot of peops.
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You know when you get the feeling that absolutely everyone else knows what's going on except you? Well.... that's where I am with this thread. Not a Scooby !
Of course I'm aware that there is still a TV series called Coronation St. It used to be on when I was a child. There was an interview on the NW news the other day with "Ken Barlow" and an actress who had allegedly been on the show for 25 years. I recognised him but can't say she rang any bells with me. Must have missed a few episodes I suppose...
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Just for Humphs benefit, so he can appreciate what passes for humour on here.
Rita Someoneorother, is trapped in her sweet shop when the shelves collapsed on her.
Gedit now?
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Oh I see, I think...Very good. As you were. Carry on.
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The Street - Zero
