My phone made a funny noise at three o'clock yesterday. I told my telephone chap not to answer it as it was probably one of those corned beef calls.
Did I do right?
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>Did I do right?
Of course you did Duncan.
And you should have the man flogged for permitting that ridiculous noise to waken you.
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Mine was 2 minutes late. Someone else I know was 5 minutes late. Those minutes could be the difference between life and death (after all its a "danger danger will robinson" warning)
The answer of course is obvious, there is a priority list of those worth saving.
At 2 minutes on the list, I guess I am worth some effort in saving, "the someone I know" fully justifies his lowly position on the worth saving scale. I am however miffed my wife was fully two minutes ahead of me, being a retired nurse I guess gets her on the worth saving priority list.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 8 Sep 25 at 09:34
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Nothing on my phone, no alarm or message.
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>> Nothing on my phone, no alarm or message.
I think it only works on 4G and 5G.
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Not sure why it didn't work then. I guess there's always a few that get missed out.
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Yeah we didn't get it last time but did this. I spose that's why they do the tests, to work out what needs fixing.
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>> >> Nothing on my phone, no alarm or message.
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>> I think it only works on 4G and 5G.
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If only the dinosaurs had 5G they would have got the message about the asteroid.
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>Mine was 2 minutes late.
They're on PAYG. Probably had to buy a topup before they got to the 'Z's
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Wonder if they activate the warning in batches? Hence the delay.
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>> Wonder if they activate the warning in batches? Hence the delay.
Other sites say that's exactly what happens.
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I was at a lunch do. It was interesting that different phones went off at different times around the venue. I would like to think that it was the government not wanting us to all rush for the exit simultaneously, but I don't credit them with that much forethought or intelligence - not this shower anyway.
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There are 89m smartphone subscriptions in the UK - most (98%) of adults have one, some two (business + personal), most kids 10 years and older.
No expert on IT but it is implausible they could all go off to the second - does the system have the capacity to handle 89m connections at any one time or do all phones react to a common signal from the mast to which they are connected.
Are certain networks or phones prioritised above others. Is the signal ordered alphabetically or by numerical phone number. Is the software used by different phone manufacturers and networks variable etc etc etc
Finally does a delay of a few seconds or even a few minutes really matter. Lower level emergencies - flooding, fire, pollution - probably not. High level emergency - nuclear, chemical, biological threat - somewhat academic unless you are a well stocked prepper
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When we went to Ukraine at the beginning of June we downloaded an Air Alert App. This can be configured to suit a particular region/s. We configured the Lvivska region which is where Lviv is situated in the West and was as far as we went. A visual map indicates areas at risk and the type of threat. Rocket, Plane etc.
A Critical Warning is issued and advises going to a basement or shelter.
Ive switched off all the sound alerts but still see the lock screen alerts. It was very active a couple of days ago. The day after we left when we returned to Wroclaw it activated at 23.40. It could have been an uncomfortable night in the hotel basement.
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>No expert on IT but it is implausible they could all go off to the second - does the system have
>the capacity to handle 89m connections at any one time or do all phones react to a common
>signal from the mast to which they are connected.
The original standard emergency alert system uses Cell Broadcast which is similar to IP Multicast and sends a message to all devices connected to selected cells in the network. It isn't an individual message sent to each device, it's a single message saying 'This is to everyone listening'. It can be one cell or multiple cells that transmits the message.
I think later standards also allow for a subscription type of broadcast.
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Fancy an iPhone 17?
www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
I understand the folder will be out next year - shall I wait?
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Some people seemed to get a text message when their phone sounded. I didn't.
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>> Some people seemed to get a text message when their phone sounded. I didn't.
Me neither.
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Mine didn't go off, I guess it's G1, or earlier.
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I got a big red warning screen that broke through the screen lock
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>> I got a big red warning screen that broke through the screen lock
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I understand only bus colliders got the big red warning screen.
But then, if they can't see a big red double decker bus, how are they going to see a red screen on a phone?
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>> But then, if they can't see a big red double decker bus, how are they
>> going to see a red screen on a phone?
maybe they have new expensive bionic eyesight.
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I got mine completely free of charge on the NHS at Cobham Hospital.
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>> I got mine completely free of charge on the NHS at Cobham Hospital.
Mine is better than yours.
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>Some people seemed to get a text message when their phone sounded. I didn't.
It's probably due to how different phone models and firmware levels handle the alert message. The message data includes a bunch of parameters that tell the receiving device the alert level, timestamp and other stuff.
Both my phone (Poco X7 Pro) and tablet (Sammy S6) displayed the 'Severe' alert message in English with links to gov.uk/alerts in English and Welsh.
A quick google tells me that Android has a standard module to handle incoming cell broadcasts but how it is integrated into user-level messaging is left to the device manufacturer.
source.android.com/docs/core/ota/modular-system/cellbroadcast
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I was with other family members. Of the four of us, only one phone got the alert, and that was a very basic Nokia non smartphone. That made a faint buzz, barely noticeable as it was at the bottom of a bag. A second basic Nokia turned out to have a flat battery, and the two smartphones, a Motorola and a Samsung, did nothing.
The basic Nokia also had the same alert twice, two hours apart, on the previous Friday from Tesco, the provider, telling us there would be a real practice alert on Sunday, so we knew what the faint buzz was well in advance.
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3 x I-phones
2 under a year old and another 5+ years old.
All sounded within seconds of each other
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Isn't it more likely to be down to the network provider than the phone make?
I didn't get the last one but I got this one. (ID Mobile)
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