www.lbc.co.uk/news/over-half-gen-z-believe-britain-ruled-by-dictator-study-suggests/
Seems the idea of one is quite popular amongst some. I heard a news reporting covering other age groups, not as popular but a 1/3 of 45-55 thought it would be a good idea.
I'd say it's a pretty big indicator for lots of people the politics of the country doesn't really work.
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Similar sentiments expressed in the US.
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>> Similar sentiments expressed in the US.
By Trump, and its started.
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It makes you weep doesn’t it? Are so many people so ignorant of history? Do they put any thought into the notion as to how you get rid of a dictator ?
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There have been instances of Dictators, while not exactly 100% benign, socially equitable and libertarian have ruled a country well and improved the lot of the populous, three modern examples spring to mind.
Park Chung Hee: South Korean dictator
Lee Kuan Yew Singapore.
And surpringly, TiTo Yugoslavia.
And there are those that history has popularised without much actual credence, Bolivar, Pancho Villa, possibly Castro.
Almost universally tho they got their by suppression and violence of some other faction, had some form of control of opponents, and most left or provided no form of peaceful benign succession or transition.
And of course the truism. Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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>> There have been instances of Dictators, while not exactly 100% benign, socially equitable and libertarian
>> have ruled a country well and improved the lot of the populous, three modern examples
>> spring to mind.
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>> Park Chung Hee: South Korean dictator
>> Lee Kuan Yew Singapore.
>> And surpringly, TiTo Yugoslavia.
Although France was a democracy under him De Gaulle had some characteristics of a dictator.
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>> It makes you weep doesn’t it?
Yes
Are so many people so ignorant of history?
Yes
>>Do they put any thought into the notion as to how you get rid of a
>> dictator ?
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No
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Easy to (justifiably) criticise social media and the adherents who accept all that's online.
Oldies (over 40??) believe the garbage served up by (much of) the established media which for decades has declined in quality whilst chasing sales with the inconsequential and dogma driven.
It is no wonder many are attracted to the perceived clarity of Trump, Johnson or Farage.
Expecting a teen to have regard for relevant history is naïve. Hitler, Holocaust etc ended 80 years ago - most teens will never have met anyone who lived through that era. It happened before their grandparents were born!
If your formative years were the 1950-60s a similar point of reference would be 1870-80 - a time which gave us Third Ashanti War, Anglo-Afghan war, Anglo Zulu war, First Boer War.
Most teens in 1965 would have difficulty pointing to the place on the map where they took place, let alone understanding the moral implications of imperialism.
It is the oldies who were in charge and gave society modern media without control or boundaries. We, not teens, need to do much better.
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I'd like to see the actual questions they were asked before accepting any conclusions drawn by C4.
I suspect that it's not so much that Gen Z want a dictator but more that they're sick and tired of the lack of any visible sign of progress over the last 15yrs while our politicians sit and bicker among themselves.
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>> I suspect that it's not so much that Gen Z want a dictator but more
>> that they're sick and tired of the lack of any visible sign of progress over
>> the last 15yrs while our politicians sit and bicker among themselves.
Even as a Boomer I find myself wondering about alternatives to the clowns on both sides.
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>> Wow
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>> www.youtube.com/shorts/Sn8EkqOxpvg
Seems about right. I like the framing i in a democracy, the people should run the government, not the other way round. To do that means being able to think.
Speaking of framing - I haven't seen the questions for this alleged survey. I suspect the answers reflect the way the questions were put. That's why we have to ask our own questions.
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The survey found that 52 per cent of Gen Z – people aged between 13 and 27 – said they thought “the UK would be a better place if a strong leader was in charge who does not have to bother with parliament and elections”.
Relatedly, a third (33 per cent) suggested that the UK would be better off “if the army was in charge”. 47 per cent agreed with the statement “the entire way our society is organised must be radically changed through revolution” – while just 33 per cent of 45- to 65-year-olds said the same. The findings tally with previous research which has found that young people are more likely to have doubts about the merits of democracy.
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while just 33 per
>> cent of 45- to 65-year-olds said the same.
I think that's quite high tbh, it's not those younger it seems. I think it's linked to ideas/projects never getting off the ground.
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I read somewhere, maybe a reference to the same poll, that only 13% of them are atheists.
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>>Even as a Boomer I find myself wondering about alternatives to the clowns on both sides.
I was going to say that despite their faults, democratic governments tend not to throw people from helicopters at height / at night to their deaths.
But it seems that some democracies do / did.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights
I wonder about Dr David Kelly?
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www.wkrn.com/news/tennessee-news/tennessee-senate-passes-controversial-immigration-bill-that-some-call-unconstitutional/
Looks like Tennessee is looking make it illegal for representatives to vote in a particular way on certain issues.
The first steps...
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq901dxjnzo
Further failures by main stream parties in Europe.
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq901dxjnzo
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>> Further failures by main stream parties in Europe.
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Yes, and we are seeing it here too. There is a perceived failure with lots of issues and no direct action. It would be good if the main parties got to grip with the issues, then we probably would see the loons on either side.
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Appeal of a dictatorship - Bromptonaut
