www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
I knew supply chain attacks were a known historical and quantified weapon, The U boat campaign was a well known example, as is putting back doors into comms equipment but this takes it to a whole new level
Extroindinairy.
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Astonishing!
Makes one wonder about China's involvement with Hinkley Point.
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More extraordinary is that Hezbollah may have been carrying the tampered pagers for possibly several months or a year.
Before they even got into their stores, the delivery they expected must have been intercepted and modified products (with explosives) put in their place.
This all points to a plan possibly conceived 2+ years ago in time for hardware and software to be modified. Hezbollah may have been vulnerable to (I assume) Israeli action for 12+ months.
It does beg the question - what else in the supply chain has been tampered with. Not just military and other kit which may have been programmed or modified to operate by remote command, but consumer goods (smartphones, TVs, personal computing etc) which we all use.
Do Hezbollah or Hamas still believe their rockets are missing targets because they are rubbish rockets, or has Israel somehow modified their guidance system causing them to malfunction.
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How to terrorise a terrorist! Literally hoist by their own petards.
It doesn't take much to think something similar could be done with old mobile phones to use as bait for the phone snatchers. Explosives wouldn't be necessary with a lithium battery inside.
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The Israelis are just thinking "outside of the box"
Hezbollah were avoiding their mobiles/people being pinpointed and decided to go old tech and were caught out.
A few years back the Israeli Government were concerned about the Iran Nuclear developments. A simple but very effective ploy was to drop a a large capacity Memory Stick outside a nuclear facility. Somebody duly picked it up, put it in their PC to see what he had found - nothing innocuous and he/she had a valuable find.
However, hidden on the stick was worm type malware that subsequently made it's way in the computers that controlled Uranium Enrichment Programme. The highly specialised equipment subsequently went AWOL - set the Iranians back a couple of years or more.
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>> How to terrorise a terrorist! Literally hoist by their own petards.
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>> It doesn't take much to think something similar could be done with old mobile phones
>> to use as bait for the phone snatchers.
That’s a great idea. Similar to the end of Gus Fring in Breaking Bad.
Unfortunately there is the possibility of collateral damage so I can’t see it happening. Shame as it would stop the phone snatching bar stewards.
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Do we know if the devices were tampered with or altered or were they hacked to make the batteries overheat and explode?
Of the latter then that's potentially a concern for wider sabotage.
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The current thinking is they were injected with 3gms of liquid explosive at some point in the shipping or manufacturing process.
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It appears this was a while in the planning, some company set up three years ago, set up a licensing deal with a Taiwanese company using their brand, spent a while selling normal pagers, and using these bona fides did a deal with a known supplier of Hezbollah.
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You're Rob N and I claim €5.
:)
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It goes on, nine dead and 200 injured after their two way radios explode -
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
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10/10 for Israel for coming up with so innovative an idea and its implementation.
Whether it makes a lasting stable peace in the region more or less likely is debatable. A realist may conclude there is no prospect at present - just get used to ongoing conflict spikes.
Terrorist groups will now not know whether any of their kit has been similarly compromised, whether Israel have blown all or just some of their devices, whether it is limited to comms kit or (possibly) weapons guidance systems, etc.
That some of the radio and pagers seem to have been given to other family members or children seems ill-disciplined - one assumes they were supposed to be kept charged and on person of Hezbollah members who would respond immediately to any orders.
There is a rumour that Hezbollah had suspicions that their kit had been tampered with and therefore Israel had to use it or lose it. However its use now would certainly disrupt any immediate plans for the current conflict with Israel.
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Ingenious.
Makes me wonder, why now? To disrupt a plot, or as a prelude to an IDF incursion into Lebanon or other action against Hezbollah? They will be hamstrung for a day or two with a chunk of their communications knocked out.
Having the pager in the trouser pocket adjacent the fleshy parts when it goes off...shudder.
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Makes me wonder, why now?
They were about to discovered, it was either now or never.
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As soon as there is a cease fire deal in Gaza Netanyahu will be out of power. He is deeply unpopular in Israel. It is in his interest to provoke a war in Lebanon. Simple really.
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>> As soon as there is a cease fire deal in Gaza Netanyahu will be out
>> of power. He is deeply unpopular in Israel. It is in his interest to provoke
>> a war in Lebanon. Simple really.
Simple if you believe his main interest is power for himself. Which is possible.
That well known sage Sir Graham Brady said the other day that all Prime Ministers go mad in the end.
One of ours managed it in less than 49 days.
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Yeah, he needs to keep things destabilised to stay in power.
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Last edited by: zippy on Wed 18 Sep 24 at 23:42
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May be too soon...
Hezbollah have released a photo of the person that they would like to speak to re the supply of the recent batch of pagers...
tinyurl.com/24eb3snx
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>> Yeah, he needs to keep things destabilised to stay in power.
With the added factor that out of office he'll likely be in prison.
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