All over the news, pleased the Fire Service didnt get a pasting, I am drawn to this BBC summary.
Dangers were 'deliberately concealed'
The inquiry found there had been “systematic dishonesty” from those who made and sold the cladding.
Arconic, a manufacturer, “deliberately concealed” the true extent of the danger of the cladding used to wrap Grenfell Tower. Fire tests it commissioned showed the cladding performed poorly but this information was not given to the BBA, a British private certification company tasked with keeping the construction industry up to date.
This “caused BBA to make statements that Arconic knew were ‘false and misleading’”, the report said.
Two firms made the insulation inside the cladding panels - Celotex and Kingspan.
Celotex made “false and misleading claims” about its product being suitable for Grenfell, said the inquiry. Kingspan, the inquiry said, misled the market by not revealing the limitations of its product.
If that is not enough to jail people I dont know what is.
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"...pleased the Fire Service didnt get a pasting..." - Really?
"The tragic conclusion is that the Lakanal House fire in July 2009 forewarned the LFB about the existence of the shortcomings which revealed themselves once more on the night of 14 June 2017,” the report said.
"Those shortcomings could have been avoided if the LFB had been more effectively led in a number of respects, particularly in its response to the Lakanal House fire, and if use had been made of its knowledge of the dangers flowing from modern materials and methods of construction.
"On any view, that is a serious indictment of an organisation whose principal purpose is to protect the public, and of the quality of its leadership.
"Laying the blame at the feet of the LFB’s senior leadership, the report said this failure had many causes, including a 'chronic lack of effective leadership', combined with 'undue emphasis on process and a culture of complacency'."
It named former LFB commissioners Roy Dobson and Dany Cotton as bearing 'ultimate responsibility for the LFB’s inability to take effective action after the Lakanal House Fire'.
Sounds fairly brutal to me.
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>> Sounds fairly brutal to me.
Not really, compared to the brutal beating of gov regulation and the cladding makers. Neither of the aforementioned fires were of a scale related to Grenfell, and would not have have prepared them for what they were faced with. It overwhelmed all of their resources, and of that scale always will. Only real lesson learned is that "stay put" is no longer valid, due to the original fire resistance design of the building was compromised over time.
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>> If that is not enough to jail people I dont know what is.
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The shortcomings in supplier testing etc go back to the early 2000's.
Those individually responsible at a senior level will probably be long gone and probably retired.
Unambiguously proving dishonesty given the time elapsed is likely to be difficult
Waters are muddied by the inadequacies of others complicit in allowing the products to be used
Incompetence is not a crime - although there may be some corporate responsibility
I doubt there will be criminal prosecutions. Any will no doubt be vigorously defended and take years to come to fruition.
The suggestion the companies involved are placed on a black list is more likely - although I suspect this will prove largely ineffective as no doubt trade names, corporate ownership, product specifications etc will change and make it impossible to police.
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Wouldn't surprise me if no one ends up in prison over this.
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Probably no one will, unless they can pin it on the caretaker. The great and good look after their own, they'll just drag it out till everyone involved is dead or doolally.
See Hillsborough, infected blood, Thalidomide, Post Office etc etc.
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Grenfell Fire report. - James Loveless
