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Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 27 Jun 23 at 10:27
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He has been busy again. Not too far from home.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=myu2yt5dKOU
That loco is bobbing around a bit on the rails, isn't it?
Oh and lots of smoke.
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I can see Settle station from my house, and almost a mile of track, so regularly hear the steam specials on the line. Seems to be about twice weekly at the moment, but a few recently have been diesel hauled.
Whether that’s because of line side fire hazard or simply the steam loco is broke I don’t know.
There was a green loco heading north a few days ago, not emitting any smoke. Probably being pushed by the diesel at the rear.
Last Saturday I was meeting friends at Settle station who were leaving a northbound train when a diesel hauled special came flying down..a big green thing, Number D345. Easy enough to remember. Jumped out of my skin as I didn’t see it approaching...heck of a loud horn.
Last edited by: legacylad on Sat 24 Jun 23 at 07:03
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>> Last Saturday I was meeting friends at Settle station who were leaving a northbound train
>> when a diesel hauled special came flying down..a big green thing, Number D345. Easy enough
>> to remember. Jumped out of my skin as I didn’t see it approaching...heck of a
>> loud horn.
D345 is a BR class 40, some 60 odd years old, owned by Jeremy Hoskins and based at Crewe.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBT0yU2CYU&ab_channel=IanWaters
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Managed to fix the camera Z?
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>> Managed to fix the camera Z?
That was shot on the old Panasonic, On the Sony, the power supply board is duff and taken out another board. All miniature smd, and unavailable, so its a 1600 quid write off after 3 1/2 years.
Last edited by: Zero on Sat 24 Jun 23 at 12:39
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>>, so its a 1600
>> quid write off after 3 1/2 years.
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Ouch!
I don't suppose you purchased it on a credit card and can show it's a manufacturing fault - potential for a s75 claim?
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>> That loco is bobbing around a bit on the rails, isn't it?
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>> Oh and lots of smoke.
Oliver Bulleid design, always smokey and rough riding, Originally when built Broughton looked a bit like this,
youtu.be/Tgd5OsNgwXk?t=58
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....I think you have a spillchucker issue....
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Good to the ole fellers getting out a bit.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qh1a3E8KTc
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You talking about the 77 year old Steam Loco, the 69 year old videographer or the youngster in the pack - the 63 year old diesel?
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"The 69 year old videographer". Yes, I like it.
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Flying Scotsman York > Carlisle yesterday.
A short morning walk in the sun to watch it from Langcliffe footbridge one mile north of Settle...about 10 folks out to watch it from that good viewpoint. Pulling 12 coaches unaided.
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Why does he always position himself on the OTHER side of the tracks, so that if another train, like say an interesting goods train loaded with gravel is going down the opposite line, we get a good shot of that?
Hmm?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aI3uQh1t8k
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Another steam special passed through Settle late afternoon yesterday..on the down line.
A regular thing in this part of the world
If that’s Flying Scotsman it didn’t have a diesel pushing it on the Settle Carlisle last weekend.
Last edited by: legacylad on Wed 12 Jul 23 at 08:39
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>>Why does he always position himself on the OTHER side of the tracks
I would guess it's to give him a wider angle view. If you're right next to the movement, it's difficult to get a clear shot.
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And why would one stand on the bridge and be engulfed with the steam?
I wish Wokingham would open their level crossing as quickly after the train had passed as Chertsey does!! Feels like a good few minutes wait usually. And you can be waiting a genuinely long time if they are expecting one in the other direction as well.
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I can well understand why they don't raise the gates for short intervals. Every closing of the gates is another dollop of risk. I sat behind a lorry a few years back waiting for the gates to open.
When they did, it dawdled off so slowly that the gates closed while it was still blocking the exit. I had a very near miss. I had scratches on the front of the bonnet where the barrier bounced over it.
I can't believe it was 11 years ago. Feels like about 5 or 6.
www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?t=10154&v=f
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>> I wish Wokingham would open their level crossing as quickly after the train had passed
>> as Chertsey does!!
Its a weird crossing, AHB (automatic half barrier, controlled by paddles on the track) on the UP* and half AHB, (half signal centre controlled) on the down.
As an aside UP and DOWN in railway nomenclature is interesting. UP usually means to London (unless its not going anywhere near London but another major terminus) and DOWN means away from London. On this line it could go to London either way, but UP here is away from the camera.
It gets really confusing when it passes through a major hub, like York. Where it could be UP or Down, depending on where its terminating, but from London its DOWN.
All depends on how they labelled the signal block diagrams back in the day.
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I would much prefer to watch freight, as per Duncan's gravel train comment.
A guy in Ohio, Brian Gibson, films and posts on YouTube under the name Jaw Tooth prolifically. To watch 2 mile long freights with up to 5 locos handling them passing down the middle of the main street in La Grange, Kentucky is spectacular. Life just goes on as normal with the townsfolk.
Often the consist is made up of Auto Rack car carrying 15 motor cars each. One I watched was hauling many thousands of tons of Hydrochloric acid.
It all seems to work, though.ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUX9kr4D1Xg
Ted
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>> Often the consist is made up of Auto Rack car carrying 15 motor cars each.
>> One I watched was hauling many thousands of tons of Hydrochloric acid.
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>> It all seems to work, though.ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUX9kr4D1Xg
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>> Ted
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Try
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUX9kr4D1Xg
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>> Often the consist is made up of Auto Rack car carrying 15 motor cars each.
>> One I watched was hauling many thousands of tons of Hydrochloric acid.
You want auto racks and street running, MrKnowwun can provide.
youtu.be/0Fa5KkRKQlU
or even not in autoracks
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlayDF12ehI
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Many years ago I was in Weymouth when the train came down the road next to me. The kids were delighted.
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yeah, the Weymouth tramway, trains went from waterloo to weymouth dockside. Went on it on a trip to Guernsey (BR Ferry SS Sarnia) in the early 1960's. Weymouth dock was declared unsafe for large ships in the early 90s.
Officially didnt go out of Network Rail service (due to admin cockups) till 2019 some of the track near the station lifted in 2020. Last train on the tramway was a special tour in 1999.
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 12 Jul 23 at 22:48
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>>Went on it on a trip to Guernsey (BR Ferry SS Sarnia) in the early 1960's.
...family trip on a BR free pass....?
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>> >>Went on it on a trip to Guernsey (BR Ferry SS Sarnia) in the early
>> 1960's.
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>> ...family trip on a BR free pass....?
A privi, yeah.
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...ditto, about the same time, but on a pass..
I miss my old "All Stations and Ships" first class leather pass I got somewhat later.
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>> I miss my old "All Stations and Ships" first class leather pass I got somewhat
>> later.
They knew they were going to divest themselves of ships.......
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...I was still getting free travel on the ships until the mid-80's (when I left BR).
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Another black steam engine northbound to Carlisle just now. Watched it through my home office window...12 Carthage’s, diesel attached at the rear. Chucking out a lot of black smoke....must be at least the third steam special in the past few days.
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Out in the caravan for the weekend. CAMC site near Welwyn GC.
Up and drinking tea just before 08:00 and thought I heard a steam engine's whistle. Quick check tells me the White Rose was off LKX 07:23 so timing would be spot on.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sat 15 Jul 23 at 15:50
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SR Merchant Navy Class 35018, British India Line
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Just returned from Carlisle. Think it was the same black steam locomotive but this time it didn’t have the diesel at the back. How odd.
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>> Just returned from Carlisle. Think it was the same black steam locomotive but this time
>> it didn’t have the diesel at the back. How odd.
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...it's downhill...
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Not quite a steam train, but what a fab piece of timing.
youtu.be/SlQulZt1_A4?t=175
youtu.be/6MKHgEIzrZo?t=921
Last edited by: Zero on Tue 1 Aug 23 at 21:32
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Took me right back to a video we were shown in training highlighting tankers and dangerous loads. BLEVE:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W88v5tMWJ0
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>> Took me right back to a video we were shown in training highlighting tankers and
>> dangerous loads. BLEVE:
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W88v5tMWJ0
Yeah, you wouldnt catch me running towards an overturned tanker.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtqNEN61knE
Mr knowwun goes out steam train spotting and meets a goods train.
What does the bloke in the back cab do all the time?
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That looks like a remarkable catch for Mr K. That Class 69 diesel is a remarkable hybrid, being more or less brand new (April 23) and Old (1980)
wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_69
Anyway, there have been one or two issues with the project, so the bloke in the back could be a riding techie, or as its on its way back to its home yard - Tonbridge - could be a driver off roster hitching a lift home, or to his next shift from home. You often see goods trains dropping crew on and off at various unscheduled station stops.
Last edited by: smokie on Wed 9 Aug 23 at 10:34
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Don't you wave at the driver? If so he didn't wave back.
Last edited by: smokie on Wed 9 Aug 23 at 10:36
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No, one does not wave at drivers unless they give you a special whistle or horn. Nor does one pump ones fist up and down begging the driver to whistle.
(tho one might, from time to time, wear ones Network Rail Hi Viz, where the driver is required to give a warning tone as per instructions in the rule book)
Last edited by: Zero on Wed 9 Aug 23 at 12:02
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This is not a steam train. More like a diesel. A Deltic, I think with my limited knowledge.
What is that farty sound at the beginning - or is it?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFQJcHDG4A
Last edited by: Duncan on Sun 20 Aug 23 at 06:49
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I love the engines on these - assuming I am not up a gum tree.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic
My brother worked on engines at Napiers. I wish I had asked him more when I could.
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Another special just passed chez LL heading north through Settle....this one had two diesels on the front and one on the rear. Never seen that before...and not too many carriages.
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Zero's not posted for a few days, hope he's OK and just chasing trains, dogs or whatever...
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Just people desperate to get out of Yorkshire - and who can blame them?
"I don't care how many engines it takes - ok, if it takes three to be on the safe side, let's have three".
Although why they are going North mystifies me.
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>> Just people desperate to get out of Yorkshire - and who can blame them?
Oy!!
>> "I don't care how many engines it takes - ok, if it takes three to
>> be on the safe side, let's have three".
The Garsdale Growler at a guess - headed by 2*Class 37:
www.branchline.uk/fixture.php
Angela Rayner's use of the term Growler, which I'd never heard in that context before, might cause some sniggering at the back of the class..
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Growler.....a pork pie in Yorkshire.
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>> Growler.....a pork pie in Yorkshire.
Indeed.
Not sure of the origin, possibly military or maybe just Manc, but it's also slang for female genitalia.
Ms Rayner's joking with fellow members about Boris and her ginger growler was part of the 'Basic Instinct' story about her crossing and recrossing her legs at PMQs.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 27 Aug 23 at 17:36
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In Manchester, at least, a Growler was a four seater horse drawn 'taxi', along with the Hansoms. Bit like a Brougham.
Ted
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>> Growler.....a pork pie in Yorkshire.
And was a HJ Backroom member. His other half was called The Growlette IIRC.
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>> And was a HJ Backroom member. His other half was called The Growlette IIRC.
For some reason they spelled both with a both G and R as capitals. Growler there was a motorbike, possibly a Harley.
He was an expat (Phillipines) and his wife was a native of those parts.
IIRC he died of cancer. GRowlette wrote very well and HJ went to soem trouble to contact her as she was good enough to be paid for her work. However it came to nowt.
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West Coast Railways Maroon livery. I had a word with Mr K, apparently he got there early and experimented with sticking a camera to the side of his vehicle, to do a "pacing shot". ie driving alongside the train. Alas the track was too close to the road, and all he would have filmed is wheels. (they have a diameter of 6" 9" on a LMS Jubilee Class)
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He can wax a bit lyrical can't he - that Mr K. " the bridge bathed in autumnal sunlight".
Tell us, what's he actually like in the flesh?
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>> He can wax a bit lyrical can't he - that Mr K. " the bridge
>> bathed in autumnal sunlight".
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>> Tell us, what's he actually like in the flesh?
I find him shy, sensitive, artistic, cares a lot about the environment, society, kind to people, not outspoken, doesn't drink so not prone to drunken outbursts......
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... he's in your neck of the woods, isn't he Duncan?
If you ever run into him you should be able to recognise him by his ever-lengthening nose.
;-)
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It's not a video, before you start complaining.
Saturday, 25th Nov 2023
12:30 pm - 2:00 pm
A chance to see a steam train arrive at Paddington station in the afternoon.
The Capital Christmas Express service will be hauled on the way into London by a Black 5 locomotive.
Note, it will leave by diesel, so if you want to see it in steam, you need to be there for the arrival.
Estimated times the train will pass - from RealTimeTrains
12:36 - Reading
12:51 - Maidenhead
12:57 - Slough
13:13 - Southall
13:18 - West Ealing
13:21 - Acton West
13:27 - Ladbroke Grove
13:30 - London Paddington
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I have some paint drying that needs watching, otherwise I might have been there. :-)
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So it just magically appears, Harry potter like at Reading? That I have to see.
Alas I am chief steward at a dog show Saturday. Which is the canine equivalent of watching paint dry. Important but V boring (until TSHTF)
Last edited by: Zero on Fri 24 Nov 23 at 09:19
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Yup, lots of good placs to see it around Banbury
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Yeah, make sure you see it before it reaches Sluff or Sowfall and the wheels get nicked.
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The real treat is Tuesday, West Country class Braunton is due to tonk it down the fast line (so 75mph) between Surbiton and Woking. So it will be doing the job on the lines it was built for
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>> The real treat is Tuesday, West Country class Braunton is due to tonk it down
>> the fast line (so 75mph) between Surbiton and Woking.
Will your mate be there?
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>> >> The real treat is Tuesday, West Country class Braunton is due to tonk it
>> down
>> >> the fast line (so 75mph) between Surbiton and Woking.
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>> Will your mate be there?
Think he might make time for it
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I guess it doesn’t get more exciting than that.
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Nearly as exciting as driving to ones garden centre in ones electric car making hoover sounds to suck on a bun and tea
Last edited by: Zero on Fri 24 Nov 23 at 15:09
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The garden centre has a Santa Special Train throught the grotto at the moment. It doesn't get better that that surely.
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as long as its not thomas the effin tank engiine
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"as long as its not thomas the effin tank engiine"
Surely Thomas is a hallowed name amongst enthusiasts.
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.....and don't call him Shirley!...
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I didn’t see any steam trains today, but I did see two crossing Arnside viaduct at 4:15 just as I returned to my car. Saw some this morning when I parked up.
And low flying jets on my steady circular walk in the Bay Area. Under cloudless skies.
Cracker of a day.
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York was the place to be yesterday, Deltic from Kings cross, loco change, A4 to Edinburgh.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=uT1tmX3Lu7g&feature=youtu.be
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York…our regular afternoon haunt to take light refreshment.
We often meet up in the Station Tap, which has an outside seating area adjacent to the platform.
Then on to the nearby Maltings, which serves super very very hot chilli and has quite the reputation for it.
Then to the original ‘House of Trembling madness’ and then top floor at Pivni before the Market Cat. All great pubs with great beer.
No time to visit before Spain again in a few days, but early January for a morning walk along the walls whilst sober. Maybe even the Railway Museum again
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>> York…our regular afternoon haunt to take light refreshment.
>> We often meet up in the Station Tap, which has an outside seating area adjacent
>> to the platform.
Then of course for well kept beer and good food, all at reasonable prices, there is the Postern Gate in Piccadilly, or the Punch Bowl.
tinyurl.com/yt5uebpj
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>> I didn’t see any steam trains today, but I did see two crossing Arnside viaduct
>> at 4:15 just as I returned to my car.
Why don't I understand that?
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Two diesel multiple units I meant…I’m not a train spotter as such, but they made an interesting photo as they both crossed the viaduct In opposite directions at the same time, just after sunset ..viaduct being at the top of Morecambe Bay.
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>> The real treat is Tuesday, West Country class Braunton is due to tonk it down the fast line(so 75mph)
>> between Surbiton and Woking. So it will be doing the job on the lines it was built for
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What time is it expected between Surbiton and Esher ?
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confirmed intermediate times not yet available, Surbiton 0933, so say 0937ish at Esher
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Have you got a link to a site which lists these steam train events?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o6RCdLn4Mk&ab_channel=MrKnowwun
Tell your mate to stand in the middle of the lines then he wouldn't miss anything.
Might do us all a favour...
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He said he was getting to get some old expendable schmuck from Esher to do that
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Thanks for the timings.
The worst possible timings for me to get out. I am really disappointed that I missed it
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I stayed in to meet a contractor who didn't turn up!
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>> I stayed in to meet a contractor who didn't turn up!
They rarely do. Word got round you dont give them tea and biccies.
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Escaping the Saturday crowds to walk further north in the Mallerstang valley. My usual escape plan.
Just got off the mid morning train at Garsdale and the blue Midland Pullman went past travelling south. Late afternoon, approaching the Black Bull at Nateby for enthusiastic rehydration, a steam train heading south, Pullman Carriages, possibly Tangmere.
Saw 3 walkers and a dog ( a melancholy black Lab) in the first 9 miles, then 4 others en route to KS station in the next 5 miles. Anti social or what :-)
A beautiful quiet part of the world, great views, and limited mud after a dry week. Flippin cold, easterly wind meant temps never rose above 8C, substantially less with wind chill.
Last edited by: legacylad on Sat 27 Apr 24 at 21:07
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Heading home from a client visit on Thursday I was surprised to see a steam locomotive being transported on the M40.
Excellent looking thing in shinny black. Didn't catch what it was but it wasn't "huge".
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I saw the original Midland Pullman many times in it's Manchester to London days. Lovely looking train in Nanking blue and white. It was bed and breakfasted at Reddish in Stockport and came past the end of our garden twice a day. I have a small photo of it, taken from my bedroom window, on it's way to start it's day at Manchester Central in the morning. I was about 14 at the time. I later saw it come back across the field by the side of our house on it's way down south on the main line and back at various times in the day. The beauty of living in a junction.
The crew and catering staff all wore white jackets....wouldn't have lasted ten minutes driving a Patriot or any of the others on the Midland main line.
I still have the main line at the end of my garden but now it's just yellow Metrolink trams. The line from Reddich is now a cycle/pedestrian route !
Ted
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>> Blue Pullman
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>> youtu.be/Z2PG-7fPlNc
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Just passed through Settle, saw it from chez LL, heading south. Tangmere following late afternoon.
I was told that last Tuesday’s special (Dalesman ?) was cancelled due to a lack of seat sales.
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>> It was indeed Tangmere
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Pal of mine regularly works as a fireman on steam locos…he was telling me last night how bad Tangmere is. Various mechanical problems and he won’t work on it.
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Tangmere has always been a bag of spanners, dropped its main con rod on the electrified third rail once. The class was a nightmare till they were rebuilt.
w.wiki/9vaD
Special place in my heart for ole tangers tho, it carries drama and character around with it wherever it goes.
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Must admit, hammering south through the Mallerstang valley on Sunday pulling Pullman carriages, even from a distance it looked a fine spectacle.
Almost as fine as the beer garden at the Black Bull, Nateby after 13 miles.
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Friend just sent me a short video of a blue steam locomotive leaving Hellifield today, Sir Nigel Gresley, heading south somewhere after leaving the Carlisle > Settle.
Mightily impressive thing.
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LNER, A4 class, same as mallard. Didn't know that was on the move today, thought the only thing heading south was Britannia. I'm waiting for Blue Peter to hit the tracks in july
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Just booked a proper train journey from Lisbon to Porto, around 200 miles. EUR 22 per person first class on the Alfa Pendular tilting high speed train.
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Facebook mentions a steamer running to Chester today.
Was there steam on the WCML on Tuesday too?
Was driving back from the office in Northampton after dropping off stuff and there seemed to be people on overbridges where I'd not expect then to be.
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Tuesday, that would have been people waiting to catch the light engine coming down for a kent tour on Wednesday. They were out of luck, the tour was cancelled on Sunday, so no light engine..
Today, Thursday, Yes Southend to Chester, LMS no 46100 Royal Scot taking over at Wembley.
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Would the one on Tuesday have been expected to run from Rugby to Roade/Hanslope via the 'fast lines' rather than through Northampton?
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No It would have been on the slows, through Long Buckby. What time was it? I cant see anything of interest going through Rugby on tuesday.
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Trainspotters looking for women:
tinyurl.com/yb6aapkn
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Staying at CAMC Burrs Park for the weekend. Our Grandson is 3 on Monday. He's very keen on Thomas the Tank Engine who is having a run on the East Lancs Railway which runs right by the site.
Thomas hauls the train of BR Mk1 coaches from Bury to Ramsbottom and a diesel at the other end of the consist, today 50 015 Valiant, hauls it back to Bury. Lots of kids on board all waving away.
G's day out is tomorrow. Daughter says it'll blow his head off. He doesn't know we're here either but they're coming back to the 'van later and having a meal in the pub nearby.
There are also a couple of DMUs running under the description of 'scenic diesel railcar service'.
One is a pair of 'modernisation plan' era units including a double ended single unit 'bubble car'.
The other is a chuffin Pacer!!
Are they heritage now???
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>>Thomas and Friends...
My kids used to love Thomas and Friends. Enjoy :-D
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Madame Ted and I have had two dining trips on the ELR. An evening one for my birthday hauled by tje Scotsman in wartime black and the other afternoon tea hauled by the much more acceptable Lancashire & Yorkshire Rly "A" class goods engine on it's own territory. Both trips superbly catered ! My daughter gave us a lift to Bury for the Scotsman trip bu we could get a free tram there from the end of our road !
Ted
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>> The other is a chuffin Pacer!!
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>> Are they heritage now???
If its a class 141, yes it is.
Filmed Flying Scotsman on the ELR on its first shakedown straight out of Riley & Sons workshop.
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Class 144 in a fictional livery.
I remember Pacers on the Wharfedale line when my parents lived that way.
Shudders....
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You have to bear in mind, they are exceptionally cheap to buy for heritage use, exceptionally easy to overhaul and maintain (any bus mechanic can do it), cheap to run, easy to get drivers certified on it, and they offer big windows for pax on scenic routes.
Most of which was the original design brief for BR. Lot of peeps dissed them, but lets be honest they weren't meant for long distant routes or fast routes, and they kept a lot of services running that might well have been discontinued otherwise.
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Until recently we had Pacers on the Leeds Lancaster Morecambe line…the 11:30 Sunday service from giggleswick to Lancaster for an afternoon on the lash. Made the most excruciating squealing sound as it went round the curve into Carnforth.
Lovely views across the bay down past Bolton Le Sands, Hest Bank into Lanc.
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Steam Train Videos - Duncan
