Holee Sheet.
This is unbelievable - "historic documents" from 2008-11.
Some high heid yins need roasted for this whole ongoing debacle that is not, and never was, defensible.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65730464
Last edited by: Lygonos on Sat 27 May 23 at 12:06
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The story that keeps giving.
Surely there are criminal charges that can be put to the Post Office for this debacle. They maliciously prosecuted people, knowing that the information they were giving was incomplete or even wrong.
Peoples lives were ruined.
I read somewhere, but can't find it now, that a post mistress rec'd compensation that didn't cover the extra interest she had to pay on loans because of the repayments she had to make, let alone losing her job, being imprisoned and losing her home.
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>> I read somewhere, but can't find it now, that a post mistress rec'd compensation that
>> didn't cover the extra interest she had to pay on loans because of the repayments
>> she had to make, let alone losing her job, being imprisoned and losing her home.
Like that for people caught up in the 'Windrush' scandal the compensation scheme is slow, complex and multifaceted. One might almost think it was meant to be so.
Somebody in the Post Office must have put two and two together and realised, probably early on, that something wasn't right. As far as professions like the lawyers are concerned one hopes their professional regulator will be on the case.
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There seems to be an inverse relationship in this country between the seriousness of a public deficiency and the length of time it takes an enquiry, when finally established, to report.
The "benefit" is that almost anyone who may have been accountable is almost certain to have moved on to another job, retired or dead.
Those who have a legitimate claim for the damage done are aging or dead - compensation (if any) will almost certainly be reduced.
The general public may be interested in the story but for most (save those directly affected) any outrage originally felt may have long been overtaken by other events.
A few examples - dodgy Iraq dossier (Chilcott) took 7 years, contaminated blood products, Grenfall Tower 6 years and counting, reform of the House of Lords initiated in 1999 - still no outcome, Mid Staffordshire NHS Trust report took 4+ years (not have recommendations been implemented).
Any bets for the various pandemic management inquiries!!!
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>> A few examples - dodgy Iraq dossier (Chilcott) took 7 years, contaminated blood products, Grenfall
>> Tower 6 years and counting, reform of the House of Lords initiated in 1999 -
>> still no outcome, Mid Staffordshire NHS Trust report took 4+ years (not have recommendations been
>> implemented).
I'd add Bloody Sunday and Birmingham 6 et al to that.
EDIT: The events of 30/01/1972 have a name.
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>> Somebody in the Post Office must have put two and two together and realised, probably
>> early on, that something wasn't right.
They did, high up in both ICL/Fujitsu and Post Office Counters. There lies the true scandal, they got people jailed deliberately to obfuscate and hide a known dirty secret.
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66843548
Somehow £600,000 each doesn't seem enough!
That's £420m over 700 postmasters.
Those responsible should lose their pension pots to help fund the scheme.
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It's very odd that nobody in the Post Office thought that there was a problem.
Before Horizon was introduced the number of prosecutions was very modest.
After Horizon was installed there were more than 1 a week prosecuted.
It has to be noted that the prosecutions were brought by the Post Office Internal Prosecutors NOT the Department of Public Prosecutors as in ordinary court proceedings.
The PO was the party claiming fraud in the 700 + branches and the Prosecutor.
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"It's very odd that nobody in the Post Office thought that there was a problem."
They did I understand here was always talk of widespread fiddling of accounts for years. Controls were very lax. Thats why they were so ready to believe they had found proof of their suspicions
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Not just their pension pots.
Those responsible should be subject to a civil trial and obliged to personally pay compensation through to bankruptcy for their negligence.
Sadly incompetence is not a criminal but covil offence. The government should fund the pursuit of those responsible.
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>> Sadly incompetence is not a criminal but covil offence. The government should fund the pursuit
>> of those responsible.
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Malfeasance in office carries a possibility of a life in prison?
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