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 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
..is a needless a*** at the moment.

Chile is deemed a Red country for travel to the UK. Case rate is not the most valid indicator at this moment, but for comparison sakes the UK is 34 and falling cases per 100k pop with 59% vaccinated and Chile is 3 and falling cases per 100k pop and 67% vaccinated.

So wtf is it Red? Amber I could understand, but Red??

What are the metrics? Decided by whom and on what basis?

Seems to me that politics and economics are playing a bigger role than they should.

Also, we would have to spend 10 days in a Government registered hotel which for two of us will be £2,500. That's a f.lot of money. Ok I can afford it, though I don't want to, but for many people that is an impossible target.

And wtf are they using the 5 Star IC O2 hotel in Docklands? (£250 per night normally) instead of, say, the Holiday Inn at Langley (much closer and £65 per night normally). It's not like you are permitted to use the facilities or even leave your room without an escort. Again, rather more related to punter subsidised hotel aid than anything else, I should think.
 Travel to the UK - Bobby
inews.co.uk/news/boris-johnsons-brexit-jet-company-quarantine-hotels-1134197
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
I don't think they'll let me use it.
 Travel to the UK - sooty123
What are the metrics? Decided by whom and on what basis?
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It's decided the joint biosecurity unit or something like that. Made up of Drs I believe, they don't publish how or why they make a country amber/red etc.

May guess with Chile, is either a virus of concern or not that many people travel there so it's on the to do list.
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
>>May guess with Chile, is either a virus of concern or not that many people travel there so it's on the to do list.

It's not a variant. I guess it's down to one of two things, or perhaps a combination of both;

Firstly, as you say, it's not a priority and not on the to-do list.

Secondly, perhaps Chile fears an influx of other South Americans from countries like Peru, Argentina and Brazil who are still, I believe the technical term is, fcked. Chile perhaps simply does not want the hassle of managing it.

As it stands, every person who enters Chile and is supposed to quarantine at home or other specified place is visited every day and required to show their ID to the inspector. The penalties for not being there are brutal.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Wed 11 Aug 21 at 18:47
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
>>My guess with Chile, is either a virus of concern or not that many people travel there so it's on the to do list.

I asked the powers that be.

Apparently part of the traffic light classification is based upon genomic analysis and variant tracking. It is not simply based on case rate and vaccination level, it is also necessary to take into account a country's ability to track which variants exist or appear in order to be able to detect a new and/or more dangerous variant.

Which makes more sense of it.
 Travel to the UK - Manatee
Is there a wheeze you can use?

I was listening to a chap on the radio who was coming home from Mexico and looking at over £3500 for himself and partner in quarantine fees. His plan was to travel to the Netherlands, spend 10 days there in a much cheaper hotel of his own choosing, then enter the UK from there.

I think avoiding some kind of quarantine in the UK would necessitate the UK accepting your double jab status.

There aren't many green countries but if you could spend 10 days in e.g. Bulgaria...
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
Appreciate the thought but way ahead of you, already arranged to stay with someone in a country which recognises my vaccination, so no quarantine, and is green so after 10 days I can enter the UK also without quarantine.

 Travel to the UK - sooty123
How about flying via the FI, there's a flight from Chile into MPA once or twice a week iirc.


Edit, too late you're already sorted.
Last edited by: sooty123 on Wed 11 Aug 21 at 21:07
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
I can get into the FI but would still need to quarantine for 8 days.
 Travel to the UK - legacylad
Why eye mon

Enjoy the Farne Islands. Proper quarantine.
 Travel to the UK - neiltoo
FI?

8o)
 Travel to the UK - No FM2R
Falkland Islands
 Travel to the UK - neiltoo
Come in as a delegate to COP23 in Glasgow - end of October.

All delegates - in the thousands - will get in quarantine free!

8o(
 Travel to the UK - sooty123
Sorry, I should have written it out in full, FI = Falkland Islands. MPA = Mount pleasant airfield, the main airport in the Falkland islands.
 Travel to the UK - Duncan
Pedants are go!

Mount Pleasant Airfield is MPN, not MPA.
 Travel to the UK - Bromptonaut
>> Pedants are go!
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>> Mount Pleasant Airfield is MPN, not MPA.

MPA is an airport in Namibia:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katima_Mulilo_Airport
 Travel to the UK - sooty123
Pedant fail I'm afraid. See me after school, 100 lines 'I must not assume'.
 Travel to the UK - Bromptonaut
IATA MPN ICAO EGYP according to Wiki.

As it's not a regular scheduled destination other than in support of HM Forces them fact that they call it MPA, or even tag hold contents MPA, isn't an issue.

EGYP is bit on an outlier. E is Northern Europe and G the UK with the last two letters being aerodrome specific. Leeds Bradford for example is EGNM. Over the North Sea Schipol is EHAM.

France counts as Southern Europe so its identifiers are LFxx; Paris Orly is LFPO.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Thu 12 Aug 21 at 13:47
 Travel to the UK - Kevin
>MPA is an airport in Namibia:

I think only Ryanair fly into Katimo. There's sod all within a hundred miles of that place.
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