Turn this UP Cc, or just drool over the hardware:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqnEciiGEfA
moved from the TV related thread, as conversation became anything but TV
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A coincidence, Dog, and ta for that. Had a record afternoon just a couple of days ago, and played my vinyl Division Bell on my funky kit. Nice little direct drive Technics turntable I bought new in about 1982, still going strong. But I was eying a new cartridge as well, possibly Ortofon, though the one I have is nice.
Also played my delightful Clifford T Ward LP (first track below, sweet little number), and the Kingston Trio. They were in at the beginning of the folk movement really, and hugely successful from about 1958 on, in case you cared.
Nothing if not eclectic, me.
Incidentally I'm now three and half hours in to the Norwegian train video. So three and a half to go then.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnrwyDxhdc&list=PL786Z-q_pplzVPZjWpm0hA81FVeMf2YFc
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>>Clifford T Ward
Died at age 57 I believe :(
I well remember his Gaye, very nice.
Anyway Cc, I'm going to ignore you from now on 'cos I'm so jealous about your Technics/Ortofion kit, you sod.
:o}
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>>>Turn this UP Cc, or just drool over the hardware: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqnEciiGEfA
I love those that reply below such Youtube videos claiming they can hear every nuance that demonstrates how good his kit or the vinyl LP sound is.... all using reference level gear at their end I assume... yeah right.
CC glad you're enjoying your old vinyl. The last 14 new albums I've bought over the past 18mths have all been vinyl.
I'm just on a cartridge hunt too, for my 1980s Technics linear tracker. In my opinion they can change the sound's character as much as different speakers. The standard Technics one for my deck is a bit "hard" and brings out too much surface noise on old LPs... the Ortofon OM20 I have at the moment is just a little too smooth but does make older vinyl sound good. Need something in between really.
Cartridges are damn expensive now though.
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>>I love those that reply below such Youtube videos claiming they can hear every nuance that demonstrates how good his kit or the vinyl LP sound is.... all using reference level gear at their end I assume
I was wondering about that Fl .. I have Division Bell on CD and, I wanted to play it in due to all the division going on in the peoples republic of GB but, being semi bone-idle I couldn't be ar$ed searching forrit among my pile of CD's so, I listened to it on YT via a crappy upload which sounded quite awful to my old ears.
That vinyl upload track sounded sooooooooo much more alive through my half-decent system, or am I just imagining it?
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...too true. I replaced the cartridge in my Ariston/ADC LMF combination some time ago (long enough to have forgotten what I paid at the time).
The new item was a Goldring G1012X - I was horrified when I checked the current price recently. I am damn sure I didn't pay anywhere near the current list.
(I listen to vinyl only occasionally, and on my "second" system. I have, however, "ripped" a small amount of vinyl - the less easily sourceable stuff - into lossless digital form, and it gives a different sound, even when streamed from the digital source!)
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...missed the edit "Goldring 1012GX"
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>>>That vinyl upload track sounded sooooooooo much more alive through my half-decent system, or am I just imagining it?
Of course we don't know what filtering or enhancement... either hardware or software... is used pre-upload by Youtubers playing their albums. Some of them are excellent and others as you say rubbish. But in general I listen to as much Youtube music as CD/vinyl.... mostly live stuff of newer artists. A lot of it is pretty good if... as you do... it's played through a decent system.
>>> new item was a Goldring G1012X - I was horrified when I checked the current price recently
A new stylus is even worse value in comparison. The reason for me considering a minor upgrade... or change at least... is that my stylus is about due for replacement and that's close to £150... just stylus no cartridge.
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£150 for a stylus? Is it some sort of nude micro-ridge?
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I've just looked up a stylus for tyrednemotional's cartridge and that would be £160-£180. So they're not cheap across many makes.
Mine is nude elliptical. Getting into nerd stuff really but my cartridge range has the same generator body across many models... it's the stylus that's different. So you could downgrade to a £55 (elliptical) stylus... or upgrade to £225 (nude fine line)... or even a £290 (superior nude fine line, hand crafted by Peruvian monks I guess) stylus.
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>> or even a
>> £290 (superior nude fine line, hand crafted by Peruvian monks I guess) stylus.
Hewn from Yak bone that had been pre soaked in unicorn milk.
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...we're going a bit OT here, but hey...
The original cartridge in my ADC LMF (carbon fibre) arm was a Satin high output Moving Coil, and relatively rare. It had a very nice sound.
I note that I can still get a replacement stylus for it a rather less than the prices quoted above. It's somewhere in one of my many "man caves", and if I was listening to vinyl more often, I'd probably be tempted.
Odd how HiFi goes; as I say the record deck is on my "second" system, the speakers for which are a pair of Rogers LS3/5a bought by myself new almost 40 years ago for under £300. They are still in "mint" condition both sonically and cosmetically, and because of that and their specific vintage would command a current s/h price around £1200!
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>>>Hewn from Yak bone that had been pre soaked in unicorn milk.
Yes a touch of that too I'm sure. I remember when I was obsessively interested in the early 80s one of the ultimate cartridges way above my level was a Koetsu with a rosewood body at £500. That is still made today and £3800! That rosewood body is just a few mm thick sleeve around an already expensive cartridge but raising its price £1800 for 50p of wood.
>>> pair of Rogers LS3/5a bought by myself new almost 40 years ago for under £300. They are still in "mint" condition both sonically and cosmetically, and because of that and their specific vintage would command a current s/h price around £1200.
Yep they and several other similar era speakers are valued so highly these days. I auditioned a pair together with two alternatives around 1981 and they were £195 then. I chose the similarly sized Proac Tablette in the end as they suited the rock based music I took in to try them all with.
It was about an hour's audition time in all and the dealer was starting to think I wasn't going to buy anything but when I walked back through the heavy damping curtain to the shop area and said I'd decided he said "I bet it's the LS3/5a". He even tried to persuade me I was wrong which somewhat undermined the reason for auditioning.
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I dug out my original 1994 Pink Floyd's Division Bell CD, and played 'High Hopes, then compared it to that YouTube vinyl version.
I couldn't tell any difference tbh - which says a lot for that upload maybe.
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...or for your copy and equipment, of course..... ;-)
(or maybe your ears.....)
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If you are over 50, your hearing range is so impaired you might as well listen to tiny Tim shouting through a bucket.
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>> If you are over 50, your hearing range is so impaired you might as well
>> listen to tiny Tim shouting through a bucket.
Of course £100 a metre oxygen free speaker cable will fix that.
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>> >> If you are over 50, your hearing range is so impaired you might as well
>> >> listen to tiny Tim shouting through a bucket.
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>> Of course £100 a metre oxygen free speaker cable will fix that.
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Pardon !!!! What did you say?
Sorry. My room has not yet been acoustically tuned.
I am not about to have two concrete folded horns installed under the floor either.
The two original comments above sums things up for many.
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My hearing isn't too bad tbh, apart from the tinnitus, which is even worse being I live in a quiet area.
It doesn't bother me though, even when I'm laying in bed at night. My ole mum used to suffer with awful tinnitus, went deaf in the end.
Funny ole life :}
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>>> pair of Rogers LS3/5a bought by myself new almost 40 years ago for under £300. They are still in "mint" condition both sonically and cosmetically, and because of that and their specific vintage would command a current s/h price around £1200.
I have a factory matched pair of Radford monitors with 1 inch solid Afromosia cases.
I wonder what the value i
I used to make LS3 speakers at the BBC and their big big brothers
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I still use vinyl. I bought a tired Rega Planar 3 for a good price off a friend a few years ago, stripped and rebuilt it with the latest Rega 24v AC motor upgrade, an RP3 double-braced plinth that I got for an absolute bargain price on eBay, and an Ortofon 2M Red cartridge. It's now a kind Planar 3 / RP3 hybrid, and after a bit of setting up (one of the joys, for me, of turntables - they are mechanical and adjustable), I am really happy with the sound of it.
The rest of the system is almost all mid 90s vintage. A Pioneer A-400 amplifier driving a pair of Acoustic Energy AE-109 floorstanders. People often comment on how enjoyable the system is to listen to, and are amazed when I tell them the newest piece of kit in the system is getting on for a quarter of a century old. The only exception is the phono preamp (the one inside the Pioneer is poo, as is it in most Japanese kit of the era), which I built from a kit supplied by Rod Elliott in Australia.
Just need to add a decent streamer to it at some point, but hi-fi upgrades are well down in the double digits in the priority list at the moment. A mate of mine has also recently bought a Naim ND5 XS, which has ruined anything I can afford for me. :-)
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Does streaming Amazon Prime playlists via Bluetooth to my TV sound base make me a bad person?
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Whatever floats your boat - I can watch an olde b/w film on my 42" plasma TV and still enjoy it.
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>> Does streaming Amazon Prime playlists via Bluetooth to my TV sound base make me a
>> bad person?
No it doesn't make you a bad person, you had already achieved that accolade
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Not as bad as the Duke of Edinburgh who has just managed to roll his Range Rover on the A149 at the age of 98.
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He was always doing that in a carriage and 4.
Its nothing unusual to roll a Range Rover. They normally roll over central barriers.
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I think Liz will be having words.
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...he's practising for Dukes of Hazzard......
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If, as it seems, he has pulled out into the path of someone, will DVLA be taking away his license? Does he Have one? does he need one?
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...do you think he was breathalyzer.....?
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>> ...do you think he was breathalyzer.....?
Apparently yes! As I believe is standard for all drivers involved in a collision. He seems to have passed.
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Yes he does. Only the Queen doesn’t need a licence. I don’t think the DVLA can just take away someone’s licence. I think what normally happens is that the police suggest it might be a good idea to surrender your licence and in turn they will not prosecute.
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>>>A Linn Sondek LP12 going for a smidgeon under 900 notes on the bay:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LINN-SONDEK-LP12-Transcrption-Turntable-Valhalla-Li
nn-Basik-PlusTonearm/202559716383?hash=item2f297ffc1f:g:d5IAAOSwZ-9cNz
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Nice way to spin an LP Dog but annoying having to poke around under the platter and change a pulley to play 45s. The Linn answer to resolve that was an upgrade kit that still fetches £600+ used on Ebay.
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>>annoying having to poke around under the platter and change a pulley to play 45s.
What's a 45 :o)
A potentially expensive hobby to get into it seems, okay if you already have the kit, like 'you lot' do, and then there's the price of new vinyl :(
Today I had to fork out 500 notes for repairs (heat exchanger) to my 13 year-old Grant combi oil fired boiler - that would have paid for a nice DD turntable I'll wager.
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New vinyl isn't horrendous in price really.
But the right charity shops still have good stuff. A good clean and often they come up very well indeed. I've got lots that cost under a fiver. I throw this stuff at them a couple of times and it works very well:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009GJEAZW/
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>> No No No, one of these
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Rather appropriate for the original topic heading ;-)
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Does it really stop the clicks you get when playing vinyl though?
I used to be one of those cranks who listened out for the clicks, back in the day when I had a mundane pie on ear PL12D deck, and yes I had the anti-static turntable mat + an ant-static gun (Zerostat) which I fired at every LP.
8-)
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Liked the Ronco thing. Anyone remember the Ronco Buttonneer?
Anyway, does the squirty stuff get rid of the clicks - depends is the answer. It's not one squirt and it's like new, no. More attempts do improve it each time though, up to a point
If the clicks are physical damage you're done. But as most seem to be accumulated goop, then yes, it does reduce them considerably, as well as background hiss.
I'm sure there are better things out there, but this stuff is pretty cheap and you get enough for seven charity shops worth of records.
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Best I go back to my ole mono Dansette record player on which I used to play Pipers quite a lot.
It seems to me the higher the fidelity, the more y'all going to hear all the clicks and pops on vinyl.
ISTR hearing such even on new LPs - but then, as I say, I did used to listen out for them :o)
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>>>No No No, one of these
www.amazon.com/Vintage-Cordless-Electric-Record-Vacuum/dp/B00G89LXXA
In town we have a great small used record dealer and he does a cleaning service with a pro wet wash, vac and dry machine. If you are buying some LPs at the time he'll do them (normally £2.99 each) £10 for 5. I'm gradually taking in my oldest LPs for a clean.
His used LPs are great value and cheaper than they would be in our local Oxfam specialist record shop. Very accurately graded too... most being little worse than when new.
>>>Best I go back to my ole mono Dansette record player on which I used to play Pipers quite a lot. It seems to me the higher the fidelity, the more y'all going to hear all the clicks and pops on vinyl. ISTR hearing such even on new LPs...
Until recently I kept a Dansette type record player just for 45s as the typical muddy mono sound was kinder to well use singles but as I've gone through my collection upgrading as needed they are now all hi-fi playable so that's been moved on. Dansette type portable record players are yet another thing of "our" youth which having sat unwanted in dusty lofts for decades now make decent prices.
So far I've found new LPs now are far more consistent in being totally free of audible faults... over the past two years I've not had to return one whereas I remember in the 70s you could expect to take back perhaps one in five to exchange for a better copy. The record shops expected it and never complained but would usually put your iffy one straight back on the shelf.
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Blimey! .. Steven Wilson available on vinyl, best start looking for a table to turn them on then.
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Yes if you need USB that sort of thing is a decent option. If you will just play through a trad hi-fi then you can probably do at least as well for under half that used on Ebay or Gumtree.
Pioneer and others better value than Technics who have gained a following with the resurgence of vinyl over and above their performance which is on a level with many brands.
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There's loads of entertainment value in Techmoan's various videos on YouTube about turntables and other vinyl related stuff, Dog.
Here's an example, but he's done lots. Have a squizz.
youtu.be/eenl2f0o6AQ
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>>Yes if you need USB that sort of thing is a decent option.
I use a Yamaha CRX-550 which has audio inputs (and USB), pumps out 25W RMS and does what I want okay.
>>Pioneer and others better value than Technics who have gained a following with the resurgence of vinyl over and above their performance which
Good ole Pioneer, I was looking at their decks earlier. thanks for that.
>>Here's an example, but he's done lots. Have a squizz.
youtu.be/eenl2f0o6AQ
Thanks Cc, I'll check that out later when I come back from 'walking the dogs' ... in the rain :(
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Wonderful stuff, and quite a character. That red LP reminds me of this LP I bought c1968. Quite awful of course, but I was into the hippy scene and 'doing' a lot of hashish and a bit of LSD etc. etc.
Funnily enough I can still listen to this 'stuff', and have it on CD - takes me see, such memories!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8EV8Rh3Ols
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Easy to guess Dog that I really like music from my posts and always have so I "suffer" lots of for old times sake musical likes. Markers of child/teen/adulthood and other events often.
Hapshash are new to me so I had to look up a bit more of their stuff. Surprised to find their guitarist Luther has been with some half decent bands like Spooky Tooth and notably for me as "Aerial Bender" playing guitar in 73-74 Mott The Hoople. They were on the pop side of rock but I thought their writing and performances elevated them above pure pop... and Luther produced very much their signature guitar sound in his time with them.
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Hapshash And The Coloured Coat Featuring The Human Host And The Heavy Metal Kids is how I remember that album Fl.
I may be wrong but, the HOPP-WHY track referred to John "Hoppy" Hopkins, Lud mentioned on this forum that he went to Hopkins funeral in 2015
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11389353/John-Hoppy-Hopkins-photographer-obituary.html
Funny ole life :o)
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Yes I remember Lud talking of Hoppy.
A thought has come to mind if you did consider getting an old record deck... your Yamaha unit won't have a dedicated phono input so you'll need a phono adaptor. Some of the newer record decks do have integral phono pre-amps though.
Phono adaptor box is £10 from Ebay or £1000 if you want to visit the other end of the scale. I have a £10 one on a second system and it's fine.
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There are 2 phono (audio in) inputs on the back of my Yamaha, will they not suffice?
I've been checking out record decks today and these are the ones which could be goers:
www.richersounds.com/onkyo-turntable.html
www.richersounds.com/project-debut-carbon-dc-blk-soc.html
www.amazon.co.uk/Turntable-Elliptical-Adjustable-Counterweight-Anti-Skating-Walnut-RT81UK/dp/B01NCZADHO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547935880&sr=8-1&keywords=fluance+rt81+turntable
Also, I see that new vinyl (*I'm thinking Wish You Were Here) tends to be digitally remastered, so presumably they wouldn't sound any different to a CD.
Lastly, any idea what happened to DVD-Audio / Super Audio CD?
*Not you personally :)
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>>>There are 2 phono (audio in) inputs on the back of my Yamaha, will they not suffice?
Sorry this is all going to seem a bit nerdy... however...
I guess these are RCA sockets we have always called "phono sockets" you are looking at. These will be what are called "Line in" and can take pretty well any device bar an old record player or a modern one that doesn't specifically state "integrated phono stage".
That's because records don't have a level output across the frequencies by the way the vinyl is recorded due to the needs of the cutting process. So the sound levels across the frequencies are altered to suit the disk cutting process when the record's made. If this signal was fed into a line input it would sound terrible. So back in our younger days the amplifiers always had a dedicated Phono input on the rear which fed into a phono frequency correction stage within the amplifier.
As CDs gained a hold and record sales collapsed makers started removing phono input stages from amplifiers and the associated sockets. So an outboard phono stage is needed which can then be plugged into any line level input.
Here is the cheap one I have... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turntable-Phono-Pre-Amplifier-Pre-Amp-Stereo-RCA-to-Line-Level-Amp-RIAA-eq/192688429846
And one for the flat earth brigade... www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p-12119-rega-aria-mm-mc-phono-stage.aspx
The first two turntables you link will need the extra phono box... the latter appears to say it is integral... not a brand I know that last one (Fluance from Canada) but appears to have OK reviews.
However if I was buying new to fit in with your setup I might look at this which will save a bit of dosh and be totally satisfactory. It has the integral phono stage and it has a USB output which you might find useful to go straight to the PC.
www.amazon.co.uk/TEAC-TN300SE-WA-USB-Turntable-Walnut/dp/B075CP5RL1
Of course all these turntables are totally manual and will not auto start or lift off at the end... not sure if this matters to you?
Comparing with used models they would be equaled in performance by almost any £75-£125 used deck but remembering you will need that extra phono box for any older deck and old decks can suffer running faults plus easily get damaged in the typical Ebay sellers DIY packing.
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Thanks for that info Fl, I understood all that so must be a bit nerdy myself :)
I think I might have an old Arcam amp knocking about (boxed) in one of my 2 lofts or 3 mancaves.
The TEAC turntable is probably made in the same factory in Taiwan as the Fluance jobbie.
I don't mind a fully manual deck actually - all part of the fun.
Amazing the price of some of these new turntables!! y'all can even pay over £1000 just for a cartridge.
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...you would be very unlucky if the old Arcam didn't have the required phono (turntable) input.
I can't think of any over the years that didn't, and even the current range retain them.
(My second system is running off an Arcam A80, and I have their original A60/T21 combo - still functional - in the loft).
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>>...you would be very unlucky if the old Arcam didn't have the required phono (turntable) input.
I'll have to go a'hunting, it should be with my old Cambridge Audio CD player.
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I'm running through an Arcam amp. Only the bottom of the range Arcam Alpha.Bought new in abut 1982, etc.....
It's undoubtedly something that could be replaced and improved, but for my purposes it's great.
As to SACD, bought one of those the other day, used from eBay. It's the War Of The Worlds of course. It was an experiment as I don't actually have an SACD player but wasn't sure if my PlayStation would handle it. Turned out my specific model of PS3 doesn't, (nor does my actual Marantz CD player), so while it plays and sounds great, it's not in glorious 5.1.
Been looking at eBay for a potential SACD player for fun, but they are too many pennies just for an experiment.
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I've "lent" my other Arcam amp (an old Alpha 6) to an ex-works colleague, as a core of a second system.
He's a HiFi buff (I really am not) and was very surprised how much of an improvement it was on his much newer (but towards the budget end) Japanese amp.
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I bought the Arcam Alpha amp from Richer Sounds in Plymouth back in the mid 90's.
We lived in a converted piggery at the time and LadyDog used to dry the washing in front of the Dovre multi-fuel stove which was in the same room as my Hi-Fi, hence the problems I eventually had with its potentiometers!!!!
Thanks for the info re DVD-A. I see Arcam (CDS50) do a player for a shade under 700 notes :(
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Mrs C is off out with a chum in half an hour. I fully intend to break out my 1973 "Tales from Topographic Oceans" double album and play all four sides loudly.
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>>"Tales from Topographic Oceans"
Nice, I listen to selected tracks on YT now and again. Cold up your way I see - shorts and T shirt job down here ... 7°
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>>1973 "Tales from Topographic Oceans" double album
Alby joining you later on Cc: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrcKZ5vASmg
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>>>As to SACD, bought one of those the other day, used from eBay. It's the War Of The Worlds
My CD player is a SACD model not because I wanted that ability but just happened to be part of the player I chose. I remember 10+ yrs ago it was a much hyped format by the high end boys for enhanced quality but that claim remained largely unproven and in truth it's main advantage was greater storage that enabled 5.1 etc.
I had been a lifetime dedicated 2.0 guy myself but in last 7 years have gone to 2.1... the extra speakers and cables of 5.1 are probably a step too far..... particularly as I have no leanings towards home cinema setups.
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>> >>>There are 2 phono (audio in) inputs on the back of my Yamaha, will they
>> not suffice?
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>> Sorry this is all going to seem a bit nerdy... however...
Precis
If you can't hear the record when you turn the volume up, it needs a pre amp, if you can - it dont.
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>>>If you can't hear the record when you turn the volume up it needs a pre amp, if you can - it dont.
Yep... without a pre-amp it will be about 25% of expected volume and a very thin sound.
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Calamity.
Having had a couple of hours listening, I idly wondered whether a new stylus might be in the works. One thing lead to another, I picked one model as a possible, and then found there was an entirely unknown to me "record shop" who apparently sells them just down the road.
Ooh, I thought, and ooh look, I thought, they do used kit, I wonder if..oh. Oh dear.
Bit out of my league, that stuff. But I just know if I even put my nose round the door (not all the way round, I'm not Barry Manilow) I'll end up being sucked into Something Expensive That Has No Perceivable Benefit.
www.criterionaudio.com/product-category/clearance/
They have some pre-amps though.
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Pretty sure my very little used system has a pre amp. I’ll check it out the next few days and possibly list everything on ‘classified’.
Just out for early doors beer.... I’m back in the U.K. for almost 3 weeks before flying south until April/May so need my quota of real ale with friends.
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>>> check it out the next few days and possibly list everything on ‘classified’.
LL I'm sure you'll do your research on Ebay sold prices but your gear will be sought after and fetch decent prices.
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>>> just know if I even put my nose round the door (not all the way round, I'm not Barry Manilow) I'll end up being sucked into Something Expensive That Has No Perceivable Benefit.
They might have been sending you out £3900 lighter with 8 bits of alloy for speaker feet!
www.criterionaudio.com/product/stillpoints-ultra-5-isolators-set-4-ex-display/
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"We don’t have to tell you that the Ultra 5 provides quite an experience!"
Nothing to the experience when I tell Mrs C what I've just spent £3900 on...
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I reckon a set of old wooden cotton reels with a tap washer on top of each would do the trick.
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What's the betting Crankers has got one of these (or something like it)
Sounded excellent through my Monitor Audio Bronze B2's.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmV9iX-Q754
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You'd be reely wrong I'm afraid Dog. That only appeals to me if I were in the business of finding old tapes in "sales of work", as we used to say, and seeing what was on them.
Anyway, enough prog - how about this? Much more mellow. Gets me from the first notes...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CDRBqWH5TU
Not sure it doesn't start like this at half speed!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CDRBqWH5TU
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Bah, missed the edit. Second link should be
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYcwMlc2GY
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Tis amazing just what one can find on YouTube - I was sir prized to find hapshash and the coloured coat featuring the human host AND the heavy metal kyds, the third ear band, white noise an electric storm, plus other 'pop' music.
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>>Second link should be www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYcwMlc2GY
Even that is available on vinyl ('pre-owned') for 24 notes. I'd like to hear it via a high-end Technics deck plus some half-decent Spendor speakers!!
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>>> Techmoan's various videos on YouTube about turntables and other vinyl related stuff, Dog.
Here's an example, but he's done lots. Have a squizz. youtu.be/eenl2f0o6AQ
Thanks for that CC... not seen his channel before. Don't agree with everything he says... well it's hi-fi so why would I. But my turntable makes five out of his six requirements.
Also he's happy to enjoy music on gear that is of reasonable quality... but not going for a fashionable set of brand tick boxes... most important it sounds good to him... and that's the place I'm at with my system having kicked out my fashionable stuff 10yrs ago to pursue exactly the sound I wanted without choosing the "must haves" of reviews and current opinion.
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>> Thanks for that CC... not seen his channel before. Don't agree with everything he says...
He did a little series of four just about Christmas time about putting together a system on a budget from scratch. Bought an amp, a turntable and so on. His reasons for picking the kit he did, the mistakes he made, the good bits about the kit he got and generally what to look out for, were interesting I thought.
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Watched all 4 parts CC. Yep some interesting chat and ideas but he spent far too much buying inferior speakers new rather than some nice 80s classics at same or less. And the central part of the system... the amp/tuner... was a pretty dreadful choice.
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If you (sort of) liked Techmoan, Fenlander, then maybe you might also get something out of Steve Guttenberg too.
An American, I think he used to sell high-end kit. Anyway, he posts every day, often only a five minute video. But he talks about everything from headphones to speakers to turntables. Lots of it is eye-wateringly expensive, but he often throws an amusing anecdote or two in.
All good fun.
www.youtube.com/channel/UC9wBmplRUhaCi-aNrkfgeTg/videos
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Thanks I'll give Steve a look.
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When I get home soon I’ll check out my hifi separates, currently on a Sound Organisation stand. Bought years ago I’ve one of those LP12 decks, Naim amp and pre amp, something called a ‘snaps’ and other miscellaneous gear. Rarely play vinyl on them and would happily sell them for a fair price!
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There's an entirely unused Classified section here, LL...
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Thanks Cc. I’d totally forgotten about that section
I’m currently decluttering with a view to downsizing property this year. I’ll post the gear on that section once I’ve made sure I really want to dispose of it after using it when home from warmer climes....then returning again until April.
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>>I used to make LS3 speakers at the BBC and their big big brothers
This was its big big brother
www.highfidelityreview.com/parmeko-lsu10-bbc-studio-monitors.html
I was there in the early 1960s and we were making them at the BBC a few yards away from the Bush ( Radio) factory in Chiswick.
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That's a great article, Henry, thank you. Enjoyed that. Truly nerdy.
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Yep thanks Henry, very interesting. Those were just before the time I got properly into music and hi-fi... I was still sitting in front of parent's radiogram listening to The Clitheroe Kid then!
Having said that I've bought and sold a few speakers of that era since including monster Tannoy style triangular corner cabinets with speaker drivers like these and just the same terminal/crossover box...
picclick.com/Lorenz-Lp-312-Vintage-Speakers-323228806716.html
They came as a pair but of course as the article comments in that era would likely originally have been single mono units.
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I was at the little known " Engineering Dept " in Power Road Chiswick from 60-65.
My first proper job. It was not very big by any standards
On the workers floor we had the mechanical lads bashing tin, lathes etc
On the "electrical side" we wired racks, consoles, studio stuff PCBs wtc.
coil winding, engraving. g
I was able to listen to the big speakers - amazing in those days.
We had big Tannoy concentric speakers too.
These are the photos of my actual speakers that I sent to the site.
www.radiomuseum.org/r/radford_monitor.html
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