My nephew has just got a job at an airport in the Weatherspoons on the "secure" side. Blethering away to him and it crossed my mind - what checks do they put on all the products that are sold airside?
We obviously get searched, cant take liquids through, pass through scanners etc, but what happens to all the stock that goes airside that you are then allowed to walk onto the plane with?
Are there special procedures put in place for the pallets of water, booze in tins, toblerones - you name it? Surely it would just take a "man on the inside" to deliver some goods airside that had been tampered with and a willing passenger could then take on to the plane?
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Obviously there are rigorous security measures in place but nobody is going to tell you hat they are in detail.
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They'll be some checks, I wouldn't get too excited about them. It won't be anything too onerous to disrupt the shopping centres with runways model.
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If you work airside then you can drive your car in to the airport. Nobody on a daily basis will check the contents of the car. On day one you will not necessarily have security clearance but you can drive to the airside car park when it is being processed.
You might be airside and have need to walk onto planes... security clearance needed of course.
Then again you could walk alongside an airport permieter and be less than 100 metres from aircraft taking off or landing.... A heavy machine gun or shoulder launched rocket would bring down a landing aircraft or one taking off.
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At a slight tangent I have watched supplies being loaded onto cruise ships and all pallets are checked by sniffer dogs. The handlers puncture the shrink wrap as necessary and the dogs then have a high old time checking them out.
I bet similar checks go on behind the scenes at airports.
But nothing is perfect. For example we are still allowed to take small amounts of liquid through security and then on board. Nothing to stop a Salisbury style nerve agent or other small volume nasty getting through.
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>> I bet similar checks go on behind the scenes at airports.
If you work airside, you can drive you car in after showing ID. Nobody checks what is in your car. You've already had security checks for your job and they trust you.
They don't check your car when you visit the viewing park at Manchester airport either.
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>> If you work airside, you can drive you car in after showing ID. Nobody checks
>> what is in your car. You've already had security checks for your job and they
>> trust you.
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Guess that's true for a lot of these situations< I used to go on military bases, both RAF and MOD as part of my job and found similar rules applied.
You needed a high level of clearance to gain entry to the base through an armed guardroom etc, but thereafter you could drive to where you wanted on the base unaccompanied and not subject to any further checks.
I guess if I had wandered into more restricted buildings rather than the IT areas I went to, the situation might have changed a little.
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>> I guess if I had wandered into more restricted buildings rather than the IT areas
>> I went to, the situation might have changed a little.
Went into the secure comms room at the US embassy, thought security there was tough, nothing tho compared to going into the cipher room at the US navy in Nth Audley street. Creds not enough there, searched on entry to the building by an armed US marine in dress blues, accompanied through the building at all times by another marine in combats, the cipher room was a large faraday cage with safe door, and my work was supervised at close quarters at all times.
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Sounds about right for the spams they're pretty obsessive about security.
Do not cross the red line sir...
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We used to have some computers in GCHQ. If they had problems, a customer was expected to send the crashdump into us on tape or whatever.
Not GCHQ. We had to send the specialist out to site. He'd take the necessary software tools with him on disk but that disk was not allowed back out again. And he;d be accompanied at all times.
I managed a nationwide project in all the naval dockyards. My pass and clearance got me most places but I was told it would be better if I stayed where I could account for being.
I also worked for a while for P&O ferries in Dover, supporting the systems each side of the channel. There's was a "ship's bag" ( - that's not like the office bike BBD!!!) which bypassed customs. It was, I think, supposed to be the sailing info and manifest etc, but we used it once in a while to put discs or tapes in for a colleague on site. Probably oughtn't have.
When I visited the foreign sites I usually didn't have to do customs on the other side as the main office straddled the border. I rarely went out of it though.
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>> Not GCHQ. We had to send the specialist out to site. He'd take the necessary
>> software tools with him on disk but that disk was not allowed back out again.
>> And he;d be accompanied at all times.
At the US embassy and the Navy the systems were on 110 volts, so parts were an issue. Even worse was the kit was US sourced with crypto processing parts manufactured in the US and embargoed from export to anywhere else in the world. If they went down, and parts were needed they came over in the diplomatic bag. For the yanks the diplomatic bag(s) varied from a weekly shipping container, to a small pouch flown overnight to the nearest US air force base (greenham then) and a British MP motorcycle escort to the front door.
For them parking on the street outside was never a problem, they have a policy of not paying parking fines.
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the diplomatic bag(s) varied from a weekly shipping container, to a small pouch
>> flown overnight to the nearest US air force base (greenham then) and a British MP
>> motorcycle escort to the front door.
We've used them a few times (the UK diplomatic courier) quite a good number if you can get the job. Not as cushy as it's made up but still a pretty good job.
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>> Sounds about right for the spams they're pretty obsessive about security.
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>> Do not cross the red line sir...
There is a non reported incident of where a mugger robbed some woman in North Audley street, someone was coming out of the US Navy so the street door was ajar, so he ducked in there for cover whereby he was promptly shot by the US Marine guard
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Oh I hope that is true. It ought to be true.
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>> There is a non reported incident of where a mugger robbed some woman in North Audley street, someone was coming out of the US Navy so the street door was ajar, so he ducked in there for cover whereby he was promptly shot by the US Marine guard
Wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
Reminds me of something that did happen out in the US. A pilot was walking away from the aircraft post sortie and had already crossed the red line at the 'gate' when he realised he'd left his gloves behind, thinking he'd been fine as the guards had seen him taxi in, he took a short cut across the red line. He wasn't fine, he very rapidly found himself up close with the bonnet of a humvee and spent several hours in the cells on base. Several phones from his CO saw him released.
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Some years back I left £100 worth of duty free fags in the overhead when we landed in Egypt. I realised before we went through passport control, but there was nothing I could do to recover them. (Well, they did say come back later in the week and see if they've been handed in...fat chance!! :-) )
Talking of airport security and Egypt, I'm just back from Hurghada. The number of times you are searched, your baggage scanned and your documents checked before you finally sit down on your flight is impressive. I know they've had their problem(s) but it's one thing they take really quite seriously - it appears more so than here, though I expect we have a lot more covert surveillance going on at airports than some (actively monitored CCTV etc).
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>> My nephew has just got a job at an airport in the Weatherspoons on the
>> "secure" side. Blethering away to him and it crossed my mind - what checks do
>> they put on all the products that are sold airside?
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Don't worry.
Wetherspoons will remain the best place to go for a wide selection of good, well kept beers and good food, all at very reasonable prices.
Find your local Wetherspoons pub here;-
www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs
Did you know that Wetherspoons has over 40 hotels around the UK?
www.jdwetherspoon.com/hotels
I recommend a pint - or more - of Doom Bar. It's on me!
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Doombar is excellent when it’s running at 100%, but at anything less it is far from enjoyable.
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>> Doombar is excellent when it’s running at 100%, but at anything less it is far
>> from enjoyable.
That's the thing with Wetherspoons, the beers are kept in good condition.
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>> That's the thing with Wetherspoons, the beers are kept in good condition.
To be fair they try but fast turnover and an alleged practice of buying barrels close to their best before dates can lead to cloudy pints.
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Not really proper pubs though are they? OK if price is your sole motivation for choosing a watering hole but never been in one I’d want to linger in for long. Most of them ones I’ve been in are rather tired and a bit depressing
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And the Wetherspoons Hotel in Beccles is really grim. Makes a travelodge look good.
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>> close to their best before dates can lead to cloudy pints.
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I can't say I've had any bad pints in a spoons.
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I agree with Sooty. Had worse beer in local pubs. Also my locals seem to have "no beer" nights when they have let the barrels run down and you have no bitters to choose from. The choice isn't that great in most of them when they have beer either. Spoons has by far the best choice of beers in Wokingham, and all on at the same time. The surroundings aren't great but I've generally gone out for a beer and a socialise rather than on an architectural survey
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Strangely about the only reason I might visit a Wetherspoond drinking hall would be out of architectural interest. They occupy some interesting buildings
The Old Corn Exchange at Bury St Edmunds springs to mind.
Not for a beer though.
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The worse thing about spoons is the clientele you have share it with.
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I think it’s fair to say that in many of their places the main interest of a significant portion of their clientele is how cheap is the alcohol and how early in the morning can you buy it.
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Thats been my experience.
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>>Thats been my experience.
On your early morning visits?
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>> >>Thats been my experience.
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>> On your early morning visits?
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Yeah, people on here kept telling me to try their breakfast.
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I can't believe you don't use Wetherspoon's Z, on your constant peregrinations.
I'm a fan of 'spoons. Some of them are a bit sticky-carpet, others are nicely restored old buildings like the Winter Gardens in Harrogate.
When we are out and about it's the fallback for some quick calories in places we don't know - food is unremarkable but predictable and cost effective. When what you want is to fire some grub down your crop there's no need for it to turn into £30-40 worth.
The beer is usually very good, and often included in the already reasonable price of the meal. It's also a better place to drop into for coffee than Costa/Starbucks etc. where sometimes you can't move for pushchairs, or all the comfortable seating is taken up by people who appear to be living there. The coffee is also £1.10 from memory and comes with free refills.
I wouldn't risk it for the anniversary, but it does a good job which is presumably why it prospers.
I like proper pubs and if I know one I'll use it but there are too many rubbish ones around that will serve you worse beer and food from the freezer, fryer and microwave that is no better and double or treble the price. I will never forget the vulcanised apple pie and custard I was served at a pretend-gastro-pub in 2001. Price is no guarantee of quality.
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>> I can't believe you don't use Wetherspoon's Z, on your constant peregrinations.
Word of the day that.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peregrinate
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A Peregrine falcon flies huge distances in its wanderings hence the name.
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>> A Peregrine falcon flies huge distances in its wanderings hence the name.
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Every day is a school day.
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>> Every day is a school day.
in here? school playground you mean
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>> I'm a fan of 'spoons. Some of them are a bit sticky-carpet, others are nicely
>> restored old buildings like the Winter Gardens in Harrogate.
In spite of my earlier comment about occasional cloudy pints so am I. Sure some of the town centre ones seem to have clientele of daytime drinkers but a bit of looking round will probably find you one that's not. In Sheffield (when my daughter was at Uni) the Benjamin Huntsman was a bit daytimerish but the Sheaf Island was not.
In my old stomping ground of Legal London 'Spoons places like Shakespeare's Head, Penderels Oak and Knights Templar are just the job for post work get together or for social gatherings of ex-colleagues. No music, food for those that want it, plenty of seating and least the resident drinkers have a bit of class :-)
Knights Templar is not a good bet on day of London's annual lawyers charity walk though - as I found arranging to meet some old mates there on a May evening.
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>> I can't believe you don't use Wetherspoon's Z, on your constant peregrinations.
Spoons mostly seem to be in city or town centres, when I am peregrinating its usually in the back of beyond in the car at paroling at the nearest spoons would be an issue.
Mind standing their in my grubby anorak and cow pat covered boots I would fit right in.
>> restored old buildings like the Winter Gardens in Harrogate.
I can not dispute that spoons have restored, reinvigorated, and brought life back into some fantastic locations.
>> want is to fire some grub down your crop there's no need for it to
>> turn into £30-40 worth.
>The coffee is also £1.10 from memory
That is why god invented Greggs.
>> will never forget the vulcanised apple pie and custard I was served at a pretend-gastro-pub
>> in 2001. Price is no guarantee of quality.
That was 2001, a pub that is not good has by now gone to the wall or become fast food coffee chain. I am incredibly lucky that where I live I have a plethora of excellent pubs - albeit pricey.
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How would you know CGN, if you'd never step foot in one? Guess you got it from the DM :-)
Actually I've no idea what my local one is like during the day but on the (few) evenings I've been there (usually because the local has forgotten to attach beer to the pumps - see my mate's review at www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g227132-d2460051-i273029202-The_Three_Frogs-Wokingham_Berkshire_England.html ) tend to be a similar crowd to any other pub around here.
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Actually Smokie I’ve been in quite a few, not normally at my instigation though. The Bell Hotel in Norwich was an awful place. It’s recently had a makeover so might be a bit better but the courtyard out the front is still full of hard drinking types. I mentioned the one in Bury St Edmunds which is a lovely old building and good for a coffee. Has bouncers on the door to keep the rougher element out. The one in Beccles is again good for a quick coffee.
Probably the one I have visited most was the Moon Under Water in Norbury south London which was frequented by exactly the type of drinkers I described earlier. OK for a cheap lunch though.
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tend to be a
>> similar crowd to any other pub around here.
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That's my experience too, the one near me is the one I visit the most, and it's got a wide spread of people in there. The rest have been perfectly fine and would return.
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>> The worse thing about spoons is the clientele you have share it with.
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I haven't even got a local 'spoons any more to share with anybody disreputable or scruffy. (Sob.)
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The one in Gatwick South terminal is the worse, with all the stag and hen parties pre loading alcohol levels.
Given the scene inside and the dark decor I am instantly reminded of the Hogarth print Gin Lane.
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>> Given the scene inside and the dark decor I am instantly reminded of the Hogarth
>> print Gin Lane.
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......though I understand Hogarth's intention was for it to represent Speke/John Lennon Airport......i
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Is there a gin laneSpoons in John Lennon Airport?
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...there's a Wetherspoons Express :-O
....can you imagine it!!?
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I thought the pope had just denied the existence of purgatory and hell?
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..................and Wetherspoons' boss supports Brexit.
Another reason for Zero, apart from snobbery, to avoid a visit :-)
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>> ..................and Wetherspoons' boss supports Brexit.
A classic cartoon Brexiteer.
An ex-pat (Kiwi) in a business where, staffing aside, Brexit will have little effect and whose rationale for wanting Brexit seems to focus mostly on stuff Westminster does or does not do but which has nothing at all to do with EU.
The other business voice, Bamford of JCB fame, is in a private business and can pursue his obsessions without offending shareholders. If it was a public company I suspect he'd be much more circumspect.
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Is it possible on here to have a normal conversation about anything that doesn't end up getting dragged into talking about brexit?
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Well said Sooty.
Presumably, the penny will drop eventually that a lot of posters have gone missing in the last 4 weeks and it's not hard to see why.
It's getting to be the case that we should 'toe the car4play line' or shut up.....so most of us have done just that!
If we try and post about anything else it just gets quietly directed back to Brexit and so the sarcasm and insults start.
Pat
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>> Well said Sooty.
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>> Presumably, the penny will drop eventually that a lot of posters have gone missing in
>> the last 4 weeks and it's not hard to see why.
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>> It's getting to be the case that we should 'toe the car4play line' or shut
>> up.....so most of us have done just that!
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>> If we try and post about anything else it just gets quietly directed back to
>> Brexit and so the sarcasm and insults start.
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>> Pat
The brexiter in chief started it. And I see you only popped up when it was mentioned so you were not exactly "posting about anything else" were you.
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I have actually been away since Sunday and welcomed a rest from the continual bitching on here.
I did, however, see your snipe at Helicopter and realised I had done the right thing.
Pat
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Put it in your, by now bulging, little black book or stick a pin in your heavily perforated dolly of me.
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I sold a lot of those dollies on eBay. The were really popular. Especially the “buy a Zero and get an FM2R free dealâ€
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That bloke is always living in my shadow.
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>> That bloke is always living in my shadow.
s'a big shadow.
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Stops the glare from your pate.
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When are you back CGN? Its really chilly over here so we are warming things up for you at Stanstead.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-43598807
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Sunday and I’m not looking forward to the weather over there Beautiful day here - around 22C and clear blue sky.
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>> I sold a lot of those dollies on eBay. The were really popular. Especially the
>> “buy a Zero and get an FM2R free dealâ€
Think you'd do slighter better business with a "moderator" doll, despite them being uglier than the Zero or FM2R doll.
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Free? an FM2R free??
There is no justice in this world.
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>> Think you'd do slighter better business with a "moderator"
You might be right. Market research does indeed show a high demand in the Fens
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>> I have actually been away since Sunday and welcomed a rest from the continual bitching
>> on here.
It takes two to argue. You've only been back here 5 mins and have already started an argument with someone. Pat, I really think you need to start looking closer to home. Just lately you've become very hostile towards some people.
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OK that it. I shall now say exactly what I think regardless and I just hope you have the gumption to allow the post to stay.
I have not started an argument, I passed an opinion but once again a Mod has come out and publicly branded me for doing something others ( Mark and Zero) are allowed to get away with all the time and nothing is said whatsoever.
Even when their actions cause members to leave it still remains ok for them to do it.
When the mods start treating everyone on the same level, allowing the same leeway to all posters then, but only then, will I toe the line.
I am as entitled to say and do, treat people and pass opinions, in exactly the same way as Mark does. I am entitled to get away with it just as he does.
I can make personal attacks, be downright rude and argumentative whenever I like....he does and goes on and on doing it without public remarks such as I get from you and Smokie.
Start moderating fairly and openly, you never fail to do it to me, so do it to the others too.
I asked for one of Marks posts to be removed a couple of weeks ago and in doing so quoted you the forum rules. It was a complete personal attack upon me and you were backed into a corner and had no option but to uphold them. In doing so you managed to remove others posts and no doubt will blame me for that.
What you don't realise is that post should have been removed routinely and dealt with in less than the 24 hours it was online and visible.
If you want to split hairs with me Dave then do so via email as you have done so many times in the past when you've fancied a moan about Mark and all the problems car4play causes you.
Don't go public selectively when it suits you and expect to stay private when you want to.
If there is one thing I've learned it is to cover my a***, as you well know.
I shall continue to post within the rules.
I shall continue to demand that other posters comply with the same rules you expect me to.
If that's a problem for you then I didn't make those rules.
Pat
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I thought you were ignoring me?
This obsession is not healthy you know, and it certainly isn't making you happy.
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>>when you've fancied a moan about Mark
Dave, have you been moaning about me to other people? You naughty, naughty boy.
If you want to stir s*** Pat, you'll need easier targets.
Dave and I have been going at it hammer and tongs for years, even in pubs. I sometimes think we both enjoy it a bit too much.
I have never seen so many ridiculous posts written in the name of complaining about bad posts.
This is "Airport Security". It's not Brexit, it's not "Why are posters leaving" its not anything.
I am all for thread drift, and I am all for internet arguments, but every thread, all the time, with the same arguments?
It's just too tedious.
Dave - could you start a "Tedious and Repetitive Arguments" thread and restart it every 100 posts? Do it like the bad jokes thread, and just stick everything in there which fits the heading.
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And really, if you haven't got anything better than one of:
1) I am a roughty toughty truckie and nobody scares me
2) Posters are leaving because of bad behavior but still love me
3) Moderators are evil and biased
then just give it a miss.
I used to care about you. Your views were so outrageous that I couldn't bear to let them stand. Eventually, and after far too long, I realised that me arguing with you was merely hiding what you were.
Leaving you to show yourself without interference or camouflage was, in fact, the most damage I could do you.
It rather makes me smile these days, and certainly removed all the anger and frustration you used to cause me.
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Pat, you really need to get over yourself - and whilst you're at it, remove that huge chip from your shoulder.
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>> Pat, you really need to get over yourself - and whilst you're at it, remove
>> that huge chip from your shoulder.
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Dave, you need to moderate - and start on the post above yours.
Pat
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>> Dave, you need to moderate - and start on the post above yours.
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>> Pat
Much as Pat and I always seem to end up on opposing sides I've some sympathy with this.
If you're a moderator you need to be very circumspect in descending into the forum of debate.
Advice/Opinion from Mods to people about their style and whether they might be authors of their own misfortune should be sent by pm - not in place where rest of us can see it.
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>> Advice/Opinion from Mods to people about their style and whether they might be authors of
>> their own misfortune should be sent by pm - not in place where rest of
>> us can see it.
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I think there are a number of posters on here who need to learn to stop poking the bear.......
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>> I've some sympathy with this.
Simon, are you sure you read accurately?
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>> Simon, are you sure you read accurately?
I think I did but I'll take a rain check later today when I'm sober.
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>> Dave, you need to moderate - and start on the post above yours.
So, you're entitled to voice your opinion, but I'm not?
One things for sure Pat. You can't be trusted. Whatever has been said or not said between us via email in the past was a private conversation. But as you can see, Mark isn't fussed about it, so no points scored there.
Why is it moderators of other forums (whether that be current or former) think they can start dictating how other forums should be run? Just because you've run it in a particular way on yours, doesn't mean we'll do the same here.
That statement does make me sound a bit of a hypocrite though, as I myself have previously criticised the moderation on another forum I frequent. But I've learnt over time to keep my nose out of how they want to run it.
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I had chosen to say nothing more on this post and to let it drop to the bottom and be forgotten, but to contact you privately to ask again that Marks post of Fri 30 Mar 18 17:42 be removed as per the forum rules.
It is a clear personal attack aimed solely at me.
It has been publicly visible now for 36 hours and you have posted twice since it was made and failed to take any action.
Yet you have seen fit to post yet again and bring the post back up to the top.
The way I moderate is to keep to the rules for everyone equally and to reprimand or rebuke posters privately.
I'm not dictating how you run the forum just asking you to enforce the rules we all signed up to when joining this forum.
Your emails always have, and always will be, private.....I'm disgusted that you would ever think that would change.
Pat
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If there was one poster that would drive me away it is....
I will let you guess!
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I'm like Marmite Sherlock, but at least I say it as it is and you know where you are with me.
Pat
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>> I'm like Marmite Sherlock, but at least I say it as it is and you
>> know where you are with me.
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I know my intrusion won't be welcome, but I will just point out that when our resident Mr Marmite said it as it is and let you know where you are with him, you requested the post be removed.
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I rest my case, now we have 2 mods who can't leave it alone.
Pat
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>>Yet you have seen fit to post yet again and bring the post back up to the top.
Surely you're not saying that somebody would post a reply just to bring a thread back up to the top?
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>> It is a clear personal attack aimed solely at me.
Pat, I never had you down as a timid little mouse. IMHO, It's an opinion, nothing more, nothing less. It's not a personal attack. I'm sure you've had far worse comments directed toward you in real life.
>> It has been publicly visible now for 36 hours and you have posted twice since it was made and failed to take any action.
See above.
>> Your emails always have, and always will be, private.....I'm disgusted that you would ever think that would change.
I must have misread one of your earlier posts where Mark's name was mentioned and that I'd been moaning about him to you in an email. I'm equally disgusted you publicly brought it up, when it was previously a private conversation.
If what Mark posts riles you so much, why do you retaliate? You know damn well it will just start another argument. Something you keep saying is the cause of driving people away.
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>> IMHO, It's an opinion, nothing more, nothing less<<
As are mine, yet since I've completely ignored Mark for the last couple of months you and Smokie have never stopped questioning 'my opinions'
As I have said all along, all I expect is to be treated the same as everyone else on here, and I will never stop fighting for that while others can pass an opinion and it can be left to go publicly unrebuked.
A remark was made earlier by someone, something about poking the pig with the stick.
I think you have to admit that the two of you have been a bit guilty of that recently, and certainly on this thread when I was quite happy to leave it and email you both after today (which happens to be April Fools Day, as well as my birthday), but dog and a bone seem to be the order of the day.
Pat
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Ignore: Refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally
Somehow I think constantly writing about and emailing to the moderators to complain about doesn't really fit the definition of "completely ignoring".
Still, I do rather enjoy it though, so please fee free to continue exactly as you are now. In particular, to use your words, I especially enjoy poking the pig with a stick.
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>> I think you have to admit that the two of you have been a bit guilty of that recently
Oh for heavens sake Pat, no one is treating you any different to anyone else. And the last thing I'd do is compare you to a pig ;)
Now put the toys back in the cupboard tidily and chill out. Life's too short.
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>>Just lately you've become very hostile towards some people.<<
Yes, I agree.
The moderators who simply cannot moderate fairly and your post is a perfect example of why I feel that way.
I'm sure Zero doesn't call that starting an argument!!!
Pat
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>> It's getting to be the case that we should 'toe the car4play line' or shut
>> up.....so most of us have done just that!
I'm sorry but if the 'car4play line' requires those who still think Brexit a disaster to suck up the so called biggest vote in political history and shut up then I ain't doing it.
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>> ..................and Wetherspoons' boss supports Brexit.
The one who employs Eastern Europeans at below national minimum wage you mean?
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so how do they check that the bottle of water you bought from position A6 in the vending machine next to your terminal, contains pure water and not a lethal concoction??
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>> so how do they check that the bottle of water you bought from position A6
>> in the vending machine next to your terminal, contains pure water and not a lethal
>> concoction??
You need to check why liquids are banned. It has nothing to with water or lethal properties of one bottle.
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