I have nothing to hide and am usually fairly relaxed about this kind of thing, but this one has made me curious.
SWMBO and daughter went to an eatery in Reading on Sunday.
She didn't check in on Facebook or any social media, nor did she join their wireless network.
She didn't subscribe to their website, or give anyone any personal details there.
She paid using a Barclays debit card, not her phone.
This morning she has had an email from them to her personal email address saying they hope she enjoyed her visit and offering a free drink when she next visits.
Which is very nice of them, but how did they get her email address? I'm sure Barclays wouldn't have passed it on!!
(Unless there's something she's forgotten to tell me!!)
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How did she book? There is something she isn't telling you, they could not have got her email address under the circumstances you describe.
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Not related, but this is the way things are going. The Chinese have a citywide system up and running.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-42248056/in-your-face-china-s-all-seeing-state
Last edited by: Old Navy on Mon 11 Dec 17 at 13:30
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I tend to agree with Z, if that was her first visit.
Has she been there before at all?
Last edited by: commerdriver on Mon 11 Dec 17 at 13:29
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They;ll have had her e-mail from her herself (so to speak). Either an online booking or something.
Last edited by: R.P. on Mon 11 Dec 17 at 13:41
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Everything about us seems to be known now. À propos, I pinched this from another site:
Hello! Is this Gordon's Pizza?
No sir - it's Google Pizza.
I must have dialled a wrong number. Sorry.
No sir - Google bought Gordon's Pizza last month.
OK. I would like to order a pizza.
Do you want your usual, sir?
My usual? You know me?
According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza with three cheeses - sausage - pepperoni - mushrooms and meat balls on a thick crust.
OK - that's what I want.
May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta - arugula - sun-dried tomatoes and olives on a whole wheat, gluten free, thin crust?
What? I detest vegetables.
Your cholesterol is not good, sir.
How the hell do you know?
Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records. We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
Okay, but I do not want your rotten vegetable pizza! I already take medication for my cholesterol.
Excuse me sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly. According to our database, you only purchased a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once, at Drugsale Network, 4 months ago.
I bought more from another drugstore.
That doesn't show on your credit card statement.
I paid in cash.
But you did not withdraw enough cash according to your bank statement.
I have other sources of cash.
That doesn't show on your last tax return unless you bought them using an undeclared income source, which is against the law.
WHAT THE HELL? ! ! ! !
I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.
Enough already! I'm sick to death of Google - Facebook - Twitter - WhatsApp and all the others!! I'm going to an island without internet - cable TV - where there is no cell phone service and no one to watch me or spy on me!!
I understand sir - but you need to renew your passport first. It expired 6 weeks ago.
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Well that';s why I posted, I don't see how it can done and I know a fair bit about this stuff.
(I know there is a whole suite of "dark arts" stuff that it could be, but I'm dubious that a shop would do so)
Maybe I'll suggest she just asks them!!
(Oops lost half the post! She walked in off the street, no booking. First visit...)
Last edited by: smokie on Mon 11 Dec 17 at 13:45
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On a similar tack, this is why I always insist on a paper receipt for stuff I've bought rather than the cashier take an email address.
It saves being targeted and bombarded by advertising and having your spending details and goodness knows what else being passed onto third parties too.
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Android phone sharing location with Google servers and in turn the Gmail account used on that phone fed back to establishment?
IMO, I wouldn't worry about it - far more things to worry about. Emails can be deleted and removed from view.
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What is the domain of her email address?
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That is handy - I have a junk mail address since the late 90s - everything like that goes in there.
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Her email domain is her shortened forename and whole surname. Her email address cold therefore be easily guessed if you know her first name (which is not on her cc), if you start from the assumption that her domain is a variant of her name rather than @gmail or similar. Unlikely to be that IMO.
She's going to contact them and ask.
I fear she's had a senior moment :-)
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That's what I'd do as well. They're obliged to tell her what information they've stored. Banks would never release e-mail info.
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IIRC Facebook can check you into places automatically. Cannot find it immediately in settings but I'm sure I've seen it recently.
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Whilst in Spain this year, I had google on my phone, suddenly tell me what flight I was due home on, what route to take, what time to leave and where to drop off the hire car.
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Was your reaction to that, Zero, one of horror, surprise or delight?
First time that kind of thing happened to me I went into "ooh, isn't that clever" mode. Then I turned off all my Google trackery - and there's a lot of it - at the dashboard we all have. I'm not sure why though. And I bet I missed something.
Anyone that hasn't looked at that, and assuming you have a Google account, it lives here. The Activity and Maps stuff is quite interesting, if you didn't know they were tracking this stuff.
myaccount.google.com/dashboard
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>> Was your reaction to that, Zero, one of horror, surprise or delight?
Yes - all of them. My Facebook is tied down tighter than a tight thing tho.
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Oddly you came up on my suggested friends' list Zeddo !
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...which just goes to prove we think we have tied stuff down tightly but maybe not as tightly as we thought...
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Which of my many Facebook identities was that?
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Blimey I'm struggling with why I need one FB ID, let alone multiple ones!!!
I suppose if I didn't have many real friends.... ;-)
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>> Blimey I'm struggling with why I need one FB ID, let alone multiple ones!!!
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>> I suppose if I didn't have many real friends.... ;-)
Well you can see what happened to Brompy and Mark if you use your real one.
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My Facebook goes through phases of being very open indeed, mostly because of the Royal British Legion and the need to share stuff. I usually remember to shut it back down after an event.
Frankly I wouldn't have Facebook if it were not for the need to share the children with family around the world. Or at least, I wuldn't have a private account, just a public one. As it is I avoid cross over as much as possible, though there are one or two from here as friends.
One should always bear in mind that the two things which are not available on the Internet are "private" and "delete".
15 years ago I unwisely used bad language in an interview when asked a particularly dumb question. It still makes my toes curl in embarrassment and shame. I'd delete it if I could, but it can't be done, and I've tried
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>> Well you can see what happened to Brompy and Mark if you use your real
>> one.
Who's bothered? I use Facebook to connect to/keep up with people who know me by the name on my birth certificate. If I'd been involved in the Criminal Courts rather than what I actually did I might think differently. Same if I were threatened by a client in my current work, or worried about the couple of truly mad ones I dealt with in the CoP.
I'm not worried if, conversely, I turn up on Mark's friend suggestions or for that matter yours. Since both of you know my forename, roughly where I live and my current/previous work history I guess you could link to my ID here as I did with NoFM.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Mon 11 Dec 17 at 17:48
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Dunno - the one that could be anyone ;-)
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>> Which of my many Facebook identities was that?
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Does it not get confusing remember which one to use and when?
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>> Oddly you came up on my suggested friends' list Zeddo !
NoFM2R came up on mine!! Well it was him unless there's another UK business consultant type in Chile with a daughter who paints, an interest in the RBL and the name Mark!!
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When I was in Germany, Facebook popped up and told me that one of my friends had also been to Berlin, and did I want to see where he'd been?
I didn't, nor do I want FB telling all the people I'm friendly with on FB where I've been, without knowing about it. Maybe it would just have shown me stuff he'd posted.
I already cut out loads of people from FB, not cos I dislike them but they were really just "acquaintances" not friends and I'd sooner not share my life too widely. I hardly post to FB anyway and have it set so that I have to give permission for stuff which others have tagged me in to be posted on my timeline.
I did discover that it's likely to be the add-on Facebook Messenger rather than FB itself which caused that. I don't have that installed as it allows 3rd parties to track our phone too easily.
Lastly, and there is a member here who I suspect knows a lot more about this than me, there are sites where you can put in, say, an email address and it will tell you who is related to them, where they live, phone numbers, employment, criminal and tax records (US only AFAIK), friends on social media etc etc. All kinds of stuff. Some is fact and some is inferred. Scary.
I liked Ambo's post up above, not far from reality soon I suspect.
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If not facebook she might like to look carefully at her Google settings.
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Tracking people - Zero
