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Thread Author: CGNorwich	Replies: 99

Tue 18 Apr 17 10:29   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39627690 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 10:38   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Clk Sec

Thanks, CGN. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 10:43   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Manatee

An election would make sense if May is seeking a stronger mandate for the position she has taken on Brexit (whatever that is). I can't see her resigning unless it's for personal reasons. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 10:48   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

I rather think it's an election but she is not a particularly well woman, she has type 1 diabetes, so it could be a health issue. We shall soon know! Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:17   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Old Navy

Election on 8th June. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:22   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - smokie

Very clever move. Gives some kind of mandate for BREXIT, will give indicators as to whether there should be another Scottish referendum. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:31   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - henry k

Maybe an odd spin off, but if Labour does badly then will they get a new leader sooner than expected? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:32   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

She needs a larger majority so she is not hampered by the swivel eyed loons of her party, Corbyn and Labour are an electorial mess, it will be a test of how much support the Jock woman has got for a referendum. A big win will give her lots of options and stability going forward over the brexit farce Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:58   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

I suppose it makes sense now the dust has settled and she's having problems with the backbenchers. There's not much opposition from labour and the lid dems. Rather an astute move i think, although who knows how any one will vote? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 11:59   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - smokie

Quite a tricky one for the electorate though. If you really don't support BREXIT and you want to make that point, you have to not vote for the Tories. Otherwise you will be interpreted as supporting BREXIT. So who is a credible non-BREXIT party, who would be palatable to Tory voters? None of them. So all of a sudden it will look like a revelation has hit the country, and we all now want to BREXIT. That's how it will be spun, anyway. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 12:08   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

Maybe the lib dems might well make a comeback? I think that might have an opening as the soft brexit party. I think all that stuff about university fees might well be forgotten this time around. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 12:20   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

I was thinking just the same, Smokie. Who does one vote for if one wishes to show no support for Brexit? To be honest, I have no idea of Teresa May's personal stance on anything, and certainly the Tory position is unclear. If she's hoping for an increased majority then I think she'll be out of luck. She needs to rely on Corbyn remaining crap. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 12:53   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> Who does one vote for if one wishes to show no support for Brexit? No-one, there is no anti brexit party. Brexit, in some shape or form is now a given >> She needs to rely on Corbyn remaining crap. Which is why she is calling it now, Corbyn is unelectable, it's going to be a cakewalk Reply to this message | Report message       2

Tue 18 Apr 17 13:32   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

Say if LibDem wins the election, can they, in theory, reverse Brexit (considering UK has not left EU yet)? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 13:40   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

In theory, i guess yes they can halt article 50. They won't win tho so it's all purely hypothetical Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 13:42   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

... and is Labour going to halt it too? Or they will continue to negotiate UK out of EU? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 13:48   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> ... and is Labour going to halt it too? Or they will continue to negotiate >> UK out of EU? No they are not Pro EU enough, and most of their electorial base voted out. >> Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:10   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

So what TM was thinking when she called the snap election? Is she expecting a landslide victory and prove that she has mandate for Brexit? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:16   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - devonite

I rather think UKIP will surprise many! ;-) Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:22   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Bromptonaut

>> I rather think UKIP will surprise many! ;-) Only those who think they will win anything. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:28   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

From the BBC Pound jumps and shares fall after election announcement So, seemingly the market has expectations of a dodgy economic future with higher interest rates. Last edited by: No FM2R on Tue 18 Apr 17 at 14:28 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 17:56   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - zippy

>> From the BBC >> >> Pound jumps and shares fall after election announcement >> >> So, seemingly the market has expectations of a dodgy economic future with higher interest rates. >> Carp! As I have said previously, don't follow my investment advise. My UK shares are down. My European shares, when valued in Sterling are down. Great, not! Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:29   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

UKIP's problem is FPTP. I might vote them but in my constituency it would be a total waste (strong Labour seat). On the other hand, Conservative might have a chance to win. Until proportional representation is adopted, UKIP has very little chance. If all votes are counted, then result can surprise many (as it did in EU referendum). Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:38   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

Isn't that the same as any small party ? I've no doubt you could say the same about many constituencies, it's only about 20% that decide an election most seem to stay in one parties hands for decades. I know where i live it's only changed once in 150 years. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 14:43   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - devonite

With most of the other parties in some state of turmoil, leaving the Cons as really the only viable option, I suspect it could be a very poor turnout with many people not bothering to vote. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 16:11   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Robin O'Reliant

I think UKIP will be hammered, they are in too much disarray to attract any more than a hard core vote. In any case May has stolen their clothes. It shows how this fixed term Parliament is a stupid idea. Any PM can call an election at any time and be guaranteed the necessary two thirds majority of MPs to support it, they can do nothing else. How can they explain why they are against it? Either; We don't want one because the government are doing a good job. We don't want one because we haven't a cat in hell's chance of winning it. We don't want one because there is an unstoppable economic crash coming and we have no idea what to do about it either. If anyone has a plausible reason as to what acceptable excuse an opposition could offer for voting against without destroying their credibility I'd love to hear it. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 16:41   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Bobby

Now that we have Brexit on its way, what is the purpose of UKIP? Was that not what they were wanting and now they are getting it? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 16:43   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - smokie

So are you saying the alternative is the fixed term Parliament, i.e. once you're in you're in for the whole term? (Presumably with some get out clause for votes of no confidence if a government is really screwing up) Or is there some other option? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 17:00   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Robin O'Reliant

>> So are you saying the alternative is the fixed term Parliament, i.e. once you're in >> you're in for the whole term? >> >> >> I think the alternative is to go back to the way it was. A rigid fixed term would put us on a par with the Americans, two years of electioneering before polling day. Two months are bad enough. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 17:06   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

" I think the alternative is to go back to the way it was. Since , as you say, there is effectiveley no difference between the current and previous system might as well leave alone. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 17:43   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> UKIP's problem is FPTP. UKIPS problem is UKIP >> I might vote them but in my constituency it would be a total waste (strong >> Labour seat). On the other hand, Conservative might have a chance to win. >> >> Until proportional representation is adopted, UKIP has very little chance. They have no chance because they were a one trick pony, the pony has bolted and no-one wants to go anywhere near the Aegean mess left behind, the stable needs to be demolished. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 18:05   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Dutchie

The younger generation who didn't vote in the referendum might show some more interest this time. Liberal party might have their vote..I've always been a labour man and why shouldn't corbyn have a go? I fear more for the future of our N.H.S.And a hard Brexit what does that mean anyway according to Theresa. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 18:11   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - zippy

Its a shame for any democracy not to have an effective opposition. Unfortunately the Labour Party are rather good at pulling that trick: Foot, Kinnock and Corbyn. Thought John Smith might have stood a chance and was shocked when he died. With no effective counter balance the Tory Party pulls further to the right and the left get more loony. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 18:15   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

The spell checkers have got you - Augean I think you mean. Mind you there is of course an Aegean mess as well currently better known as Turkey. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 18:29   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - rtj70

>> The younger generation who didn't vote in the referendum might show some more interest this time. With no real opposition, even if the liberal democrats pick up quit a few seats, we'll still have a hard BREXIT. There isn't the time for someone to really do anything that makes a difference. I suppose if a lot of current MPs decided to stand as independents on the back of anti-BREXIT agendas and then get voted in, it might mean they can influence what form of BREXIT we get. I think the Tory plan is to take out a lot of Labour MPs and get a bigger majority. There's no way a general election can change our leaving the EU. It just might change what deal we go for. Last edited by: rtj70 on Tue 18 Apr 17 at 18:30 Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 18:42   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> The spell checkers have got you - Augean I think you mean. Mind you there >> is of course an Aegean mess as well currently better known as Turkey. Ruddy chrome, I went to great lengths to spell it the right way, and the damn thing changed it on submission. Not sure which is the biggest pile of poo, Chrome, UKIP or Turkey. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 19:19   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

UKIP by a country mile Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 19:25   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - legacylad

I went to Turkey thrice last year on extended holidays. Had a lovely time. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 19:44   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - The Melting Snowman

In her speech May has said "Britain is leaving the European Union and there can be no turning back" She gets our votes. But if you're a Tory Remainer you have a choice of voting Tory and appearing to support Brexit or vote for Lib Dem and show a pro-EU stance but theoretically end up with a Govt. you don't want. I think I might pop across and see what the farts make of it all. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 20:13   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Dog

>>I think I might pop across and see what the farts make of it all. A foregone conclusion collusion I should imagine. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Tue 18 Apr 17 21:04   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

>>I should imagine. Given how often you visit I'm sure you can do more than imagine. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 08:20   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Cliff Pope

>> >> But if you're a Tory Remainer There aren't any Remainers now, it's past history. It's like supporting the Byzantines, Ottomans, or Romanovs. Time, Marches On ! as the newsreels said. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 08:41   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Dog

>>There aren't any Remainers now, it's past history. They have morphed into Wrexiteers, not all. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Wed 19 Apr 17 17:23   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

>> They have morphed into Wrexiteers, not all. >> I'm finding it tricky to keep up with all these mangled words that keep appears, what's that one mean? Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 17:31   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

You need a Brexicon Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 17:34   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

>> You need a Brexicon >> Definitely, it's hard to keep up with them all! Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 19:39   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Dog

>>I'm finding it tricky to keep up with all these mangled words that keep appears, what's that one mean? Dunno, a play on wreck Brexit I presume. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:20   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Roger.

>> UKIP by a country mile >> WE forced the Tories to offer an EU referendum. I'm proud of that. I guess that is what makes you hate us. Tough. Reply to this message | Report message       3

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:23   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

>>WE forced the Tories to offer an EU referendum. Really? I thought that was the media and the electorate. >>I guess that is what makes you hate us. No, that would be your stupidity, your hypocrisy and your bigotry. Last edited by: No FM2R on Tue 18 Apr 17 at 22:23 Reply to this message | Report message       1

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:29   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> I guess that is what makes you hate us. >> Tough. I don't hate you, I'm grateful you are an active member and supporter of UKIP. You and people like you makes it unelectable. Thank you. Last edited by: Zero on Tue 18 Apr 17 at 22:30 Reply to this message | Report message       2

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:32   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

I hate very few people Roger. I could not however be a member of or support a party which which in part at least is based on xenophobia at best and hatred of foreigners at worst. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Wed 19 Apr 17 15:38   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Old Navy

>> >> UKIP by a country mile >> >> >> >> WE forced the Tories to offer an EU referendum. >> I'm proud of that. >> I guess that is what makes you hate us. >> Tough. >> You sound like a Gina Miller groupie. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:34   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

Well judging by the public reaction, I suspect turnout is going to be pretty low. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:37   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

Pity we can't introduce a law forbidding anybody who doesn't vote from whining for the next 5 years. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:38   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Ted

We have a by election coming up after Sir Gerald sadly crossed the Styx. I wonder if it'll be postponed. Solid Labour here though. Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 22:41   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

>> I suspect turnout is going to be pretty low. Which I presume will favour the idiots more than the mainstream? Reply to this message | Report message

Tue 18 Apr 17 23:21   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

Not sure, idiots exist on both sides. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 00:42   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - No FM2R

All sides. The point being that if the only ones interested are the idiots then that's who the politicians will focus on. From any side. Reply to this message | Report message

Wed 19 Apr 17 08:23   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Cliff Pope

Yes, but we all suffer the idiots on our side, and scorn those on the other. It's handy to be able to disown them if things go wrong. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 20 Apr 17 13:02   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

Before the EU vote, an argument was floated by Remain side that leaving EU is leaping in the dark compared to a known state (i.e. being in EU). Now, after the article 50 was served, voting for any party (pro-EU/Remain) which does not have a plan is like leaping in the dark. Conservative has a very good plan for leaving EU (at least based on media story). Voting for any other party is now "leaping in the dark". I am not a fan of Conservative but I don't think there is any better choice at this moment (situation might be different in few years time). Perhaps this is why TM triggered the election now! The entire opposition is in disarray and there is no real alternative. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 14:32   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Cliff Pope

Quite so. Starting from where we are now, rather than where some people might have liked to be, the task is surely to secure the best deal possible. So which party is best placed to achieve that? Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 15:27   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Robin O'Reliant

The BBC reported an off the record comment by someone in the EU hierarchy that a clear win for the Conservatives would ensure a simpler negotiating position and result in a better deal for both the UK and the EU. It makes sense, imagine some cobbled together coalition of warring leavers and remainers in the room together. No one on either side would have a clue where they stand. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 15:38   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

"Quite so. Starting from where we are now, rather than where some people might have liked to be, the task is surely to secure the best deal possible. So which party is best placed to achieve that?" There are issues that some might feel more important than Brexit that will decide how they vote. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 15:45   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> There are issues that some might feel more important than Brexit that will decide how >> they vote. A government is in power for 5 years. The next 5 years are critical. No issue is more important, and if the electorate think there is they should be disenfranchised. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 16:36   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - The Melting Snowman

I might vote Green. A three-day weekend sounds good to me. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 16:59   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Dog

>>I might vote Green. A three-day weekend sounds good to me Vote Labour for a 3 day week. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 20 Apr 17 16:36   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

I would imagine most people accept that Brexit is going to happen and there are things that concern them and impinge on their life rather more directly. Rightly or wrongly those issues will affect as to how they vote rather rather more than Brexit. A large portion of the electorate are thoroughly bored and fed up with Brexit. You may feel that they should be disenfranchised for this but they currently still have votes. Reply to this message | Report message       2

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:02   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - commerdriver

>> A large portion of the electorate are thoroughly bored and fed up with Brexit. You >> may feel that they should be disenfranchised for this but they currently still have votes. >> What the H*** do they expect - It'll all be over by Christmas?? It's the most important thing in the next 5 years, assuming Trump and Kim Jong-Un can keep their hands off red buttons. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:16   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Old Navy

And all the shouting, screaming, and stamping of feet by Joe public won't make a bit of difference. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:17   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

For a lot of people the issue is quite simple. 1 They voted for Brexit 2 They're getting Brexit. They don't want to discuss it any more. They are bored wiht it 3 Can they please get on wth their lives and can politicians sort out the things that matter like the health service and schools and potholes in the roads. Brexit is very much an issue tht fascinates politicians and the media and those interested in politics Brenda from Bristol very much summed up a lot of peoples attitude to another election Reply to this message | Report message       2

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:39   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

Brenda from Bristol very much summed up a lot of peoples attitude to another election. Something I've missed no doubt, but what's that a reference to. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:41   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - CGNorwich

www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/apr/18/does-brenda-from-bristol-have-the-best-reaction-to-the-election-news-video Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:59   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

Thanks, I'd missed that. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:45   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - movilogo

>> summed up a lot of peoples attitude to another election Voting in election is not mandatory. If people don't want to vote, they don't need to turn up. In many countries people die for demanding an election. Here we are given choice how to run the country and yet many people are unhappy! Some people don't want to take any action and then crib when other people took actions which made a decision (not necessarily to their liking) for them. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:55   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

> Some people don't want to take any action and then crib when other people took >> actions which made a decision (not necessarily to their liking) for them. www.thefreedictionary.com/crib i assume it's number 23. Not heard of that one before. There are of course many that don't vote and don't complain. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 08:19   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Cliff Pope

>> > Some people don't want to take any action and then crib when other people >> took >> >> actions which made a decision (not necessarily to their liking) for them. >> >> www.thefreedictionary.com/crib i assume it's number 23. Not heard of that one before. >> Said of a horse that bites the woodwork of its stable out of boredom or frustration. Mostly Indian English. Also I recall Macbeth: "But now I am cabined, cribbed, confined, bound in. To saucy doubts and fears" Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 09:55   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Zero

>> Some people don't want to take any action and then crib when other people took >> actions which made a decision (not necessarily to their liking) for them. In some areas, how you vote, who you vote for or even if you vote at all has absolutely no effect on who gets elected. I live in an area where I could put a blue rosette on a mangy flea bitten sewer rat, call it tory roland and it would be elected to the conservative back benches in june. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 10:21   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - Duncan

>> I live in an area where I could put a blue rosette on a mangy >> flea bitten sewer rat, call it tory roland and it would be elected to the >> conservative back benches in june. I live in an area where I could put a blue* rosette on a mangy flea bitten sewer rat, call it Tory* Roland and it would be elected to the Conservative* back benches in June. *Other colours and parties are available in other areas of the country. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 17:36   Intriguing - PM to make announcement at 11.15 am - sooty123

What the H*** do they expect - It'll all be over by Christmas?? >> It's the most important thing in the next 5 years, assuming Trump and Kim Jong-Un >> can keep their hands off red buttons. Lots of people aren't really that interested in politics, probably a bit strange if your a political animal but there we go. As an example I'd say at work in the last 10 years politics is mentioned about once a year, briefly. They'd rather not listen or read every twist and turn about brexit for the next two years. Reply to this message | Report message       1

Thu 20 Apr 17 23:19   Farage not standing in election - smokie

Guess he either realised it's a lost cause or maybe he's simply too busy counting his money as an MEP (somewhat cynically IMO). No Carswell either which was not really a big surprise seeing as he's fallen out with UKIP. So I don't rate UKIPs chances of getting many seats, if even their "names" haven't got the confidence. Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 23:21   Farage not standing in election - No FM2R

I know I'm not in the UK and so don't see the news daily, but Farage is no longer taken seriously, is he? One too many returns, one too many ridiculous interviews? Reply to this message | Report message

Thu 20 Apr 17 23:33   Farage not standing in election - CGNorwich

Difficult to say. He has always appeared as rather ridiculous to me with his man of the people act but he still appeals to some I guess. Not sure what role he intends to play in future. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 00:20   Farage not standing in election - henry k

>> Not sure what role he intends to play in future. The MEP told the Daily Telegraph he could have had an "easy win" in the former UKIP seat of Clacton but had decided to "fight for Brexit in Europe" instead. Mr Farage is chairman of the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy Group in the European Parliament, Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 01:59   Election 17 - The Real Reason? - Bromptonaut

A significant number of Tory MPs elected in 2015 face a real risk of prosecution 'cos Tory Central Office used national resources in a fashion that looks more like local spend so that limits were breached. inews.co.uk/opinion/dennis-skinner-theresa-may-called-election-tory-fraud-investigation/ Too many risky by-elections Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 08:42   Election 17 - The Real Reason? - Duncan

>> inews.co.uk/opinion/dennis-skinner-theresa-may-called-election-tory-fraud-investigation/ >> >> Too many risky by-elections Ah! Dennis Skinner. the Beast of Bolsover. Don'cha love him*. His arguments are always balanced* and well thought through*. *Insert contradictory word, or phrase if you wish. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 11:16   Election 17 - The Real Reason? - Manatee

I'd be surprised if the Labour leadership is happy with Dennis opening that can of election fraud worms. No saying where it will end. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 11:19   Election 17 - The Real Reason? - Zero

>> inews.co.uk/opinion/dennis-skinner-theresa-may-called-election-tory-fraud-investigation/ >> >> Too many risky by-elections Thats the skinner view, however it seems to be a position that no-one else is taking seriously, even " All property is theft, the rich are picking the poors pockets, all employers are evil slavemeisters" Corbyn only half heartedly brought it up once and has failed to mention it again, so someone has had a word in his ear and told him its not likely. Dont get me wrong, I admire Skinner, after Benn left he is the only man with cast iron principles left, but he is a deeply misguided silly old fool. Reply to this message | Report message

Fri 21 Apr 17 16:58   Election 17 - The Real Reason? - Robin O'Reliant

>> >> >> >> Dont get me wrong, I admire Skinner, after Benn left he is the only man >> with cast iron principles left, but he is a deeply misguided silly old fool. >> Apart from campaigning for years for compulsory retirement at 65 to give the young a chance, then coming up with a load of excuses as to why the same never applied to him when he started drawing his pension. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 03:56   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Pat

uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz Interesting stats at the bottom of the page in the results page but don't forget to tick other options to see the full selection of choices. Pat Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 17:04   Election 17 - If in doubt. - sooty123

Quite surprised, the top three parties i associate most strongly, apparently, SNP, labour, LD. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 17:52   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Bromptonaut

I also came out as SNP. Note prominence of Abortion (which isn't really controversial at all in most of UK) Gay Marriage (a done deal here) and laptop bans on flights from Muslim countries. Guess it's a pretty rough and ready re-hash of something from US. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 17:55   Election 17 - If in doubt. - sooty123

There were a few Americanisms in there such as felon, that made me think the same. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 18:19   Election 17 - If in doubt. - No FM2R

>>There were a few Americanisms in there such as felon The phrasing appears Asian to me. Thought the vocabulary does indeed seem American. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 07:49   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Cliff Pope

Waffly wording looks a bit American: "This theme is somewhat important to you". Is that American for only slightly important? In English it would more likely be a massive understatement - ie very important indeed. Reply to this message | Report message

Sat 22 Apr 17 18:14   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Dog

Cons 65% UKIP 64% SNP & Greens right at the bottom on 25% & 22% Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 12:33   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Focal Point

Worrying results for me. Con 60% UKIP 58% LibDem 57% SNP 57% Labour 52% At the moment I'm seriously considering spoiling my ballot paper. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 13:10   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Dog

>>At the moment I'm seriously considering spoiling my ballot paper. You 'May' change your mind when we get nearer the day FP. I'm a died in the wall (Corn) Brexiteer and intended to vote Con, but in the last phew! days I'm leaning towards wasting my vote and going for UKIP but, I want the full Monty as regards to Brexit so my head is telling me I must stay true-to-blue. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 13:10   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Manatee

73% Labour 68% SNP 67% Plaid 67% Sinn Fein 66% Lib Dem 60% Green 53% BNP 53% DUP 52% Con 50% UKIP Confirms my instinct that I should never vote Conservative, although I don't set much store by it and I didn't pay that much attention to the weightings. As to Labour, maybe a low opinion of Corbyn shouldn't be a barrier to voting for them. Actually I'm more worried by McDonnell. I read somewhere that half of May's "lead" has gone since the announcement. I'm not surprised. Far too self-regarding in her statements I think. I also doubt whether she has a clue about negotiations. The picture she needs to paint is the benefits on offer to the EU, not that she will crush them when she has a large majority. Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 13:43   Election 17 - If in doubt. - Manatee

I've done it again, tuned the weightings a bit and answered all the supplementary questions. Now I'm a Tory. 57% Con +4% 56% Lab -17% 53% Lib Dem -13% 48% SNP -20% 46% Green -14% 44% UKIP -6% 40% Plaid -17% 37% Sinn Fein -30% 31% BNP -22% 28% DUP -25% Need a better quiz! Reply to this message | Report message

Sun 23 Apr 17 13:54   Election 17 - If in doubt. - zippy

I traditionally voted Labour, but JC just doesn't cut it for me and I fit right in to the brackets of the extra tax burden that he want to implement. The local Labour Council have sold land that was gifted to the people of the town to use, to developers so that is sharp practice. The Liberal leader clearly isn't liberal: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Farron#LGBT_rights What infuriates me is that he doesn't seem to be able to vote to his convictions. UKIP to me, are a bunch of racist Tories who have potentially ruined this country without even being in power and have wanted to privatise the NHS in the past. Some of the current Tory policies pushed through seem spiteful and even have no monetary justification, like removing housing benefit for young people - where are they supposed to live if they cannot live at home? Charities and support organisations have even said that the policy will even cost tax payers more! So at the moment I am feeling rather disenfranchised. Perhaps I should vote Green (65% on the quiz) but then I like driving too much and have you seen what they have done to the roads in Brighton! Reply to this message | Report message