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 European football discussion/results - fluffy
At the moment it is France 1 Romania 0

moved to a stand alone thread as it has nothing whatsoever to do with the house of lords

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Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 23 Jun 16 at 01:44
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It is now France 1 Romania 1
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It was Wales 2 Slovakia 1.

I bet the Prince of Wales is happy.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
Will Turkey beat Croatia?

Lets hope not.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - CGNorwich
Why?
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It was Turkey 0 Croatia 1.

I wonder if Turkey still want to join European Union.

At the moment it is also Poland 0 Northern Ireland 0.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Bromptonaut
Of course Turkey want to join EU. It has done done the fifties but progress has been slow. It remains slow.

Oposing it's membership is not good politics for a UN Security Council Member seeking Turkish agreement to deal with Syrian etc refugees.

But stopping them bieng in EU doesn't need our veto. While Cyprus is portioned the Cypriots and Greeks will bar Turkey's entry.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 12 Jun 16 at 20:08
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - sooty123
It has done done the fifties but progress
>> has been slow.
>>

what does that mean?
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Bromptonaut
(1) Turkey has wanted to be in Common Market/EU from early days

(2) Progress in achieving Turkish membership has been glacial.....

Nothing more
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - sooty123
I got it now, the second done should be since. Sorry it honestly took me a bit to click what you meant.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Bromptonaut
>> I got it now, the second done should be since. Sorry it honestly took me
>> a bit to click what you meant.

As you say. An edit inadvertently removed key word; since.
 european football discussion - fluffy
At the moment it is Austria 0 Hungary 0.
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 23 Jun 16 at 01:43
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It was Austria 0 Hungary 2.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
Who will win between Portugal and Iceland?
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - VxFan
I'm amazed either of them are in the House of Lords.

Edit no long applicable as the footy stuff has been moved to its own thread
Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 23 Jun 16 at 01:44
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It was Portugal 1 Iceland 1.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It was Romania 1 Switzerland 1.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
Raheem Sterling - why is he playing? Never has been able to score.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
Oh dear. Surely the ultimate ignominy for England, if they get sent home by Wales.

I shall try not to smile if it happens. Though, as I've said before, Wales are normally b***** awful at football so I didn't have any great expectations.

 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Bromptonaut
HAlf time score not good for England.....
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
Hodgson will be out of a job by Monday if they lose this one.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
For Wales, its already a positive position. A win would be fantastic, a draw useful and a loss understandable.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
Vardy and Sturridge.

Now *that's* the line up he should have started with.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - No FM2R
How come Hodgson is being praised for substitutions? He wouldn't have needed them if he hadn't screwed up his starting line up for the second time in a row.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Ted

The two subs have scored....giving Engerland a win. Should have been on in the first half !
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Robin O'Reliant
>> How come Hodgson is being praised for substitutions? He wouldn't have needed them if he
>> hadn't screwed up his starting line up for the second time in a row.
>>

It can make sense to start with your best strikers on the bench. Bring them on fresh later in the game when the tiring opposition have settled into a pattern of dealing with your starting line up.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - commerdriver
Got to be the most thankless task ever, being an international football manager. Whatever you do there are always several million of your countrymen who know what you did wrong and what should have done

Even when you win.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Pat
Bit like being a lorry driver commerdriver....every car driver on the road will tell you what you're doing wrong and how to do it better:)

Pat
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
England 2 Wales 1.

Yippi.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - R.P.
They was talk of giving Ron his cards after Bale scored that incredible goal...
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
Hodgon picked the right subs to go on the field for the start of the second half.

Vardy and sturige both subs both scored.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Dutchie
The next England match put Vardy and Sturige in from the start.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
I agree with you Dutchie.

Put Vardy and Sturidge in the team from the start.

In any case it was Italy 1 Sweden 0.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
At the moment it is Croatia 2 Czech Republic 0.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
Final score Croatia 2 Czech Republic 2.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
At the moment it is Spain 0 Turkey 0.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Duncan
It's the game tomorrow morning that matters.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It finished Hungary 1 Iceland 1.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - Duncan
>> It's the game tomorrow morning that matters.
>>

England 23 Australia 7
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It is Switzerland v France later.

Come on Switzerland.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - fluffy
It also finished Portugal 0 Austria 0.
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - devonite
Another monumental thread drift! but I'll join in! - Hodgson hasn't a clue! I often see him sat on the bench wide-eyed and vacant, looking like a frightened Owl, I often imagine him thinking; Twit-Twoo what should I doooo!
 House of Lords: should it be elected - fluffy
It is Italy 0 Republic of Ireland 0 at the moment.

Last edited by: VxFan on Thu 23 Jun 16 at 01:38
 House of Lords: should it be elected. - CGNorwich
Keep up Fluffy
 European football discussion/results - Haywain
Returning to the more important things in life.... can I recommend this website for a rolling programme of live football on t.v. - it isn't just for subscription t.v. and includes terrestrial channels as well. Apologies if you are already aware.

www.live-footballontv.com

 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
Very quiet tonight.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
The Beestlings and I watched it, the first match we've bothered to see. We like Iceland: great names, Viking beards that look like they belong, and they seemed to be enjoying themselves. That thing their supporters do - clap-and-stamp once, long pause, repeat - looks and sounds fantastic. Well played, all of them.

England looked like England have in tournaments ever since 1996: one-paced, unimaginative, unable to even do the basics right, like passing the ball to each other and not to the opposition. Rooney took his penalty well and then spent the rest of the game going nowhere and giving the ball away.

Time for a single United Kingdom football team? If we're still United by the next tournament.
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
At least England was playing in Europe.

The top Dutch players who couldn't be bothered to qualify have no excuses.
 European football discussion/results - Harleyman

>> Time for a single United Kingdom football team? If we're still United by the next
>> tournament.
>>


Too late for that now, should have happened forty years ago when we joined the EU. It would at least have given some of the true greats of the game (George Best for example) the opportunity to flourish on a much bigger international stage than they ever had the opportunity to do. And it might also have done a lot to unite this kingdom.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>>
>>>>
>> Too late for that now, should have happened forty years ago when we joined the
>> EU. It would at least have given some of the true greats of the game
>> (George Best for example) the opportunity to flourish on a much bigger international stage than
>> they ever had the opportunity to do.
>>

By the time we joined the EEC in 1973 Best was already a washed up alcoholic.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>> By the time we joined the EEC in 1973 Best was already a washed up
>> alcoholic.
>>
He played in S Africa for a few months.
The very shrewd owner of Jewish Guild knew he had a 'winner' on his hands, but needed the money to pay him. So he went to all his upcoming opponents and said 'Guaranteed full stadiums if we get Best!'
They stumped up the cash, the crowds flooded in, and bob's your uncle.
 European football discussion/results - henry k
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36648624/social-media-laughs-at-england-being-knocked-out-of-euro-2016-by-iceland
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
True comment harleyman.It does surprise me how divided we are and all the aggro what is going on now.

We have the Frisians they speak there own language so do I where I was born in Groningen.We have a banter about our differences who was first in Holland the Frisians or us but no more that that.

I always felt and still do that people her up north never got over the treatment they have received from London.Who to point the finger to I don't know but it is not healthy for a nation.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>> True comment harleyman.It does surprise me how divided we are and all the aggro what
>> is going on now.
>>
>> We have the Frisians they speak there own language so do I where I was
>> born in Groningen.We have a banter about our differences who was first in Holland the
>> Frisians or us but no more that that.
>>
>> I always felt and still do that people her up north never got over the
>> treatment they have received from London.Who to point the finger to I don't know but
>> it is not healthy for a nation.
>>

The whole Ajax v Feyenoord and Heerenveen v Groningen used to make me laugh.
But when it comes to divisions in the national side, one wonders where their loyalties lie.
 European football discussion/results - Armel Coussine
Anything can happen in a game, but surely the England team feels disgraced by being knocked out immediately by a very small country?

I feel disgraced anyway.
 European football discussion/results - Bromptonaut
>> Anything can happen in a game, but surely the England team feels disgraced by being
>> knocked out immediately by a very small country?

Apparently the last time they were this disgraced it was by being beaten by a very large country.......

USA 29-06-1950 - World Cup group stages.
 European football discussion/results - smokie
They said during the match that the USA side were not professionals, whereas the Icelanders were.

Or maybe it was the other way around.
Last edited by: smokie on Tue 28 Jun 16 at 15:27
 European football discussion/results - Bromptonaut
>> Or maybe it was the other way around.

Think so. Iceland's manager is a Dentist when he's not running the footy team. Don't think they even have a professional league.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>> >>>>
>> Think so. Iceland's manager is a Dentist when he's not running the footy team. Don't
>> think they even have a professional league.
>>

As dire as England were, this is no repeat of the 1950 loss to the USA. Despite being a country with the population of Leicester (The league champions) Iceland have a decent team. They beat Holland home and away during qualifying and they came through their group beating Austria on the way.
 European football discussion/results - Runfer D'Hills
Ach well, at least you won't have to worry about Nicola now...


www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/scotland-dies-laughing-20071121549

;-)))
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
I might have expected some sympathy from the Scots. After all, they know how tough a tournament knockout stage can be - don't they?
 European football discussion/results - Bobby
I know I have tried, and failed, before to explain why Scots want English teams to fail. It is nothing against the English players, its all about the media and the arrogance that surrounds the team.

Heard a few comments last night from Alan Shearer and a couple of other pundits that seemed to suggest that things are finally sinking in.

EPL is not the best league in the world, it is the most watched. There is no God-given right that England should be winning games and last night showed how average they were against a spirited team.

Rooney, Fergie was happy to take the decision to get rid of Ronaldo, Cantona , Beckham but wouldn't get rid of Rooney when he turned into a disruptive influence and since then he has done nothing to prove that he is in any way special.

As Scots, we assume we will fail and anything better is a bonus, England seems to go into everything assuming they will win and spit the dummy out big style when they don't!
 European football discussion/results - sooty123
England seems
>> to go into everything assuming they will win

Not sure where you've got that from !
 European football discussion/results - Manatee
>> I know I have tried, and failed, before to explain why Scots want English teams
>> to fail. It is nothing against the English players, its all about the media and
>> the arrogance that surrounds the team.

I think I understand, I couldn't help wanting Iceland to win. It's the height of rudeness too to say (whether or not there is truth in it) that Iceland could only win because England cocked up.

Iceland played their hearts out and worked for their win. If they beat England with fighting spirit as much as footballing skill, even more deserved say I.

 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
>>EPL is not the best league in the world,

It probably is.

But the mistake is to believe that translates into any statement on the quality of English players. And, as can be seen, England struggles to put together a very good team.

I understand the optimism for England success, the wish for success, all of that. I don't quite get the surprise when they play in a bland, characterless manner and fail to perform well.

Seriously, have they done *anything* of note in a competition since 1966? And that itself was hardly a model display.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Tue 28 Jun 16 at 18:47
 European football discussion/results - sooty123
>I don't quite get the surprise when they play in a bland, characterless manner and fail
>> to perform well.

I guess there's below par performances and then there was last night.
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
They where up against Vikings who never gave up.That must have been a scary time when the Longboats arrived in the N/East of England with the special clapping of hands or swords.>:)
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R

>> I guess there's below par performances and then there was last night.

I understand your point, but was it really worse then the last World Cup?
 European football discussion/results - sooty123
> I understand your point, but was it really worse then the last World Cup?
>>

In all honesty yes, the last WC was poor. This performance wasn't even that good.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>>
>> >> I guess there's below par performances and then there was last night.
>>
>> I understand your point, but was it really worse then the last World Cup?
>>
or 201, for that matter?
Or EVERY major championship back tom 1966, with the exception of Euro96 and WC 1990
 Meanwhile, on the other Euro thing...... - tyrednemotional
..and simply to add some less-targeted humour....

This week Sir Bobby Charlton was asked how the 1966 England team would have fared against today's Iceland team.

'We would have won 1 - 0 ' said Sir Bobby seemingly with due modesty.

'Only 1 - 0' said the interviewer?

'Well, yes', said Sir Bobby, 'you have to bear in mind that most of us are in our 70's now'.


 Meanwhile, on the other Euro thing...... - commerdriver
>> 'Well, yes', said Sir Bobby, 'you have to bear in mind that most of us
>> are in our 70's now'.
>>
not counting the departed ones
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Double Damn Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Wales 2 Belgium 1 at the moment.
 European football discussion/results - rtj70
I can't comment until it's over - I'll jinx my team!
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
I've had to stop watching, I can't take the tension.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
I'm trying to write something about b***** grouting, just to relieve the tension.....
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
I just don't believe it!! 3-1
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
OH MY GOD

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Still, the Belgians only have 12 miles to go home.
 European football discussion/results - rtj70
After the last win for Belgium and the first 12 minutes I thought oh no....

Then Wales dug deep and wow! What a game. Best so far. Watch out Portugal.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Bale against Ronaldo!
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
When Belgium scored it looked like they were set to run up a cricket score. That was a fantastic performance by Wales, and as Portugal have been far from impressive bring on the semi!
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Portugal haven't played very well so far, but they can. They really can. And Wales is going to be short a few players.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Wow! I decided to be Welsh (I have the ancestry; Mrs Beest has more) for this tournament when England's supporters started smashing up Marseille. Wales threatened to spoil it by voting the wrong way but this was an astonishing performance by team that sensed its moment and seized it. Brilliant.
 European football discussion/results - rtj70
>> Wow! I decided to be Welsh

Well unfortunately I was born in south Wales. I won't bring politics into it. I am proud to be Welsh! I come from a poor area... bettered myself through education etc. Then my plans are scuppered going forward potentially. Oh well I've worked out where most of the vote out members of this forum live.

(JOKE about knowing where you live!)

What a result! Wow!
Last edited by: rtj70 on Fri 1 Jul 16 at 23:08
 European football discussion/results - Kevin
>I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!

Belgium are disputing the result. They claim that it does not reflect the true opinion of most fans.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Tart.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
I'll take my tentative links and Welsh surname on this one, thanks.
That last goal was a belter!
In fact, all the goals were belters.

Meanwhile Rayne Wooney is shown grinning like a Cheshire t*** as he rides his jetski.

National pride? Alien concept for some.
 European football discussion/results - Runfer D'Hills
I live near Wales.

;-)
 European football discussion/results - Runfer D'Hills
...and I have some red shoes, and the bloke who lives two doors up from me is Welsh and I regularly ride my bike up Welsh mountains.

I reckon all told, I'm pretty much Welsh.

;-)
 European football discussion/results - tyrednemotional
>>Belgium are disputing the result. They claim that it does not reflect the true opinion of most fans.

...I think 3 - 1 is a significantly more overwhelming majority than the referendum....

(which should, of course, go to extra time) ;-)
Last edited by: tyrednemotional on Sat 2 Jul 16 at 08:33
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
There is a nice restrained sense of pride in Wales, at least in rural parts. Everyone is on a high over the teams achievements, but no triumphalism or flags flying from cars and very few hanging outside houses.

If Belgium had Joe Hart in goal it would have been at least 5-1.

Last edited by: Robin O'Reliant on Sat 2 Jul 16 at 10:58
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
What is the point of extra time? It's very rare a goal is scored as both sides shut up shop and we're left with a tedious half hour of knackered players not daring to take chances.

Might just as well go straight to penalties after the ninety minutes are up.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Come on Wales you can beat Portugal to reach the final of the 2016 European Championships.

There is only one Gareth Bales, one Gareth Bales.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Idiot.
 European football discussion/results - rtj70
>> There is only one Gareth Bales, one Gareth Bales.

There might be. The Welsh footballer you're probably referring to is Gareth Bale.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I meant Gareth Bale.

Sorry.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Wasn't the last World Cup final won by a goal in extra time? Come to that, wasn't another final that those of us not yet born at the time are tired of hearing about, settled in extra time too?
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>> Wasn't the last World Cup final won by a goal in extra time? Come to
>> that, wasn't another final that those of us not yet born at the time are
>> tired of hearing about, settled in extra time too?
>>

Very few and far between, though. As for 1966 there were no penalties then, a draw would have meant the game being settled by the toss of a coin as there was no facility for a replay.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
We've discussed this problem at home. We wondered about removing the goalkeepers, transferring the right to handle to one of the other players who were on the field at the start of the match. The problem with modern kickyball is too-capable defences, so this would make them a bit less capable.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Crank up the volume....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn10tbDA_l4
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>> Crank up the volume....
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn10tbDA_l4
>>

Knocks that depressing God Save The Queen into a cocked hat. No wonder England play so badly, not only is the fight knocked out of them after listening to that but they then have to put up with the dreadful England band to make them even more depressed.
Last edited by: Robin O'Reliant on Wed 6 Jul 16 at 19:09
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
For non Welsh speakers here's a phonetic version so you can join in.


My hair-n laad vern-had-eye un an oil ee me

Glaad bay-rth a khant oryon enog yon or vee

Ay goo ro ruv-el-weir, glad garr-weir tra mad

Dross ruh thid coll-ass-ant ay gwide

Glaad, glad, ply deeol oive ihm glad

Trah more i veer, eer beer horff by

Or buth-ed eer hen yayth bar high
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Come on Wales you can do it.

I say Wales 2 Portugal 0.
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
That;s trhe kiss of death !
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Its going to be close. If it goes wrong in the first 10 minutes it will go very wrong.

I'm reckoning on 1:0, one way or the other.

I hate this stress.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Nice to see the members of both teams respecting and singing their own national anthems.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Still on the Eurostar. Won't get home till it's over.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Wish I was. This is one of those games I find too stressful to enjoy. I'd rather just wake up and it be done.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I am stressed as well watching Wales play Portugal.

Lets hope Wales can do it.

I fully agree with you No FM2R
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Idiot.
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
fluffy stop trying to engage with FM.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
Yes probably for the best Fluffy. FM2R has deep-seated problems and has difficulty in relating to other people.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Only to irrelevant dicks. Fancy you having picked up on that.

Move on CG, your obsession with everything I do and say is unhealthy. Find someone else to worship.
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
Whatever happens a fantastic Wales team to be this far.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
I think that's true Dutchie, they'll go home feeling like a job well done and be well received, whatever the result from this game.

But I'm hoping. Oh how I'm hoping....
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Clearly "falling over and looking wounded" is part of Portugal's game tonight.
Last edited by: No FM2R on Wed 6 Jul 16 at 20:15
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
There's a local story about Neal Taylor...he played in goal for a village team in Denbighshire who were playing a village team from up the road. He let in 20 goals....comment after the game was "Could have been worse, could have been thrashed"
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I am hoping Wales can do it.
 European football discussion/results - Runfer D'Hills
>> I'd rather just wake up and it be done.

Oh I dunno, last time I said that it all went horribly wrong...

;-)
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
:-)
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
8-)

Ain't that the truth
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
The stress is killing me. Half time, vodka refill.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
The stress is killing me. Half time, vodka refill.
 European football discussion/results - Kevin
>The stress is killing me. Half time, vodka refill.

Have a double - like your mouse finger.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
>>Have a double - like your mouse finger.

A combination of stress induced shakes and s***e software.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>> Wish I was. This is one of those games I find too stressful to enjoy.
>> I'd rather just wake up and it be done.
>>

Same here, all I can do is dip in and out. It's the same watching West Ham on TV.

Though when I am at the match yourself it is completely different, must be the atmosphere in the ground keeps me glued to it. 2-0 behind it just gets depressing.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Agreed.

I'd like to see them get one back, just to feel some satisfaction; the truth is they are working very hard but don't quite have the skill levels.

I'm dropping in and out, finding excuses to miss bits.
 European football discussion/results - Kevin
>Trah more i veer, eer beer horff by

>Or buth-ed eer hen yayth bar high

That sounds suspiciously like a conversation I overheard when passing The Feathers pub in Basingstoke town centre at the weekend.
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
I know at least two Welsh speakers in that town !
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
It is still Wales 0 Portugal 0.
 European football discussion/results - sooty123
It isn't now.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
No longer I fear. Good goal though.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
b*****.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
Goodnight Wales.
 European football discussion/results - Kevin
>I know at least two Welsh speakers in that town !

I don't think they were native Welsh speakers Rob. Probably a guest-beer.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Well this isn't looking hopeful, shame.

Still, no complaints really. Wales have done well until now and they really haven't played all that well tonight.

Never mind, there's half an hour to go. It could get better. Or worse.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
It is depressing to see a team like Wales taken apart in only 5 minutes.

What Wales needs is more superstars like Bale.

Portugal is a country which is one of the poorest in the E.U.

Kids in Portugal have no future other than playing football.

At least Wales has beautiful countryside.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
You really are a tit of the first order.

I don't know where you get your opinions from, but clearly you're getting them free. You know nothing about anything.
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
www.theguardian.com/football/live/2016/jul/06/cymru-v-portiwgal-yn-fyw

Even the Guardian does Welsh now.
 European football discussion/results - zippy
It's all my fault!

I put a £5 bet on Wales to win. If I had put it on Portugal then we would have been celebrating a Wales win!

PS - for my sins I am typing this from a Cardiff city centre hotel and it is very very noisy!
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
Seems like a glorious defeat...we're very good at that..
 European football discussion/results - zippy
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Last edited by: zippy on Wed 6 Jul 16 at 22:17
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
They think it is all over... it is now.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
tinyurl.com/hcmdtk2

The last time the Welsh won anything important.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
And the English?

tinyurl.com/j4zyfyp
 European football discussion/results - R.P.
If we're talking military history Ian, probably more important and of far more significant was the battle for Gheluvelt on 31 October 1914 (first Ypres) South Wales Borderers and 2nd Welch Regiment. One of the pivotal battles of WW1....
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Hah!! Wot he said.

Up yur bum, saffer.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>> Hah!! Wot he said.
>>
>> Up yur bum, saffer.
>>
Silence, O'Higgins!
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>> If we're talking military history Ian, probably more important and of far more significant was
>> the battle for Gheluvelt on 31 October 1914 (first Ypres) South Wales Borderers and 2nd
>> Welch Regiment. One of the pivotal battles of WW1....
>>

Forgive me on that score.
I'm well involved in the Dellville Wood stuff at present. Unfortunately our gubberment choose not to. As It coincides with some silly footballing stuff. Which all the ministers and lackeys will attend.
History? Pah!
Hundreds of local MilVets head over, yet the ceremony is changed to a later date... for political expediency. Go figure.
 European football discussion/results - legacylad
I missed the game completely, mainly because I have no interest whatsoever, but despite that wish the Home Nations success in whatever sport they play.
Met like minded friends in a local pub for early doors, then went to one of the local curry houses (the other one is closed to celebrate Eid). The curry, chappatis and plain rice won hands down over watching a soccer game...my Bradford roots ensured that no cutlery was used in the eating of this meal. Just shovel it all down with a chappati or two. Accompanied with tap water. S'funny but I never drink alcohol with curry.
Shame about the result but my limited understanding is that they can hold their heads high to have progressed so far.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>>>> Shame about the result but my limited understanding is that they can hold their heads
>> high to have progressed so far.
>>

Before the tournament the Welsh ambitions were to get past the group stage, that would have been considered an achievement. However, as you progress the ambitions progress with you and last night's result was a downer.

Nevertheless, as you say they had a tournament where they exceeded all expectations and put the nation on a real high. The Welsh fans also brought great credit to the country with their conduct and enthusiasm - unlike those from across the Severn, unfortunately.
 European football discussion/results - smokie
Well done Wales!! I was rooting for them. Portugal are, on paper, a far better side (aren't they? My knowledge of soccer is minimalist!!) but on the night Wales were their equals.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Wales lost but they played their hearts out.

Well done Wales.

You achieved a great deal.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
What's your tip for tonight Fluffy?

 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Germany on penalties.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
It is Germany 0 France 1.

My prediction was wrong.
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
Dubious penalty.Italian referee.Germany was the far better team in the first halve.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
>> Dubious penalty.Italian referee.Germany was the far better team in the first halve.
>>

Stonewall penalty. The German player was late to the challenge and led with his arm to put the attacker off. He has no complaints.
 European football discussion/results - Stuartli
Correct.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I am sad that Germany got beat.

I do not like Portugal or France.

May the worst team win.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
Bit unsporting Fluffy. Why the dislike?
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
My heart went out to Wales.

I was sad when Portugal beat Wales.

I have an anger England did not do better. We should have beat Iceland.

For some reason England just cannot seem to do it. Why I do not know.

I have nothing personal against Portugal or France, I just wish England was there instead.

I hope England can qualify for the 2018 World Cup. To stop the misery again I wish England do not qualify for the 2018 world Cup. At least then there is no more suffering when England get knocked out by penalties or something or get beat by a poor side on paper.

I have every respect for these superstars such as Ronaldo but they get paid too much

How can a footballer earn more than our Prime Minister when all they do is kick a football.

Thats what annoyed me about Ronaldo with that header to beat Wales and go 1up.

You would think he had just been awarded the Victoria Cross for doing something heroic.

 European football discussion/results - R.P.
Very little if any bad feeling towards Portugal in Wales it seems. One hell of a welcome back for the team tonight in Cardiff. Don't lose any sleep over it.
 European football discussion/results - Runfer D'Hills
Wales have everything to be proud of. They did very well. Even a very occasional and ill informed observer of football such as me enjoyed watching them play. Full of enthusiasm and no little measure of skill in my layman's opinion.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Me too, Humph. The victory over Belgium was a stunning performance, better than anything we've seen from England since that 4-1 against the Netherlands (sorry, Dutchie) in 1996. Twenty years ago!

It's reasonable for a team to aim to overachieve a little; sport regresses to the mean in most cases, so you hope the important results are in the top half of the performance distribution. (England seem to put most of theirs in the bottom half.) But I think Wales have redefined what they think their distribution looks like. That's very special, to realize you can do better than you ever thought possible. Well played.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
Wales will now have to cope with the problem of expectation, something Ireland found wasn't that easy after their initial forays into the latter stages of tournaments. They are a solid and under-rated team, but in the finicky world of sport it wouldn't take much for the fans who are now lauding Chris Coleman to be calling for his head.

 European football discussion/results - henry k
Good as the support was for Wales, the local support in Iceland ( watching on TV ) was in another league.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36755192
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I was sad when Ronaldo went off the pitch injured.

It would have been great to see Ronaldo do his majic.
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Before you did your cycling proficiency certificate in Hull, Flippy, where did you go to school?
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Allow me........

"Before you did your cycling proficiency certificate in Hull, Flippy, where did you go to school?"
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
He got kicked off the park Fluffy,Ronaldo had to go.

Mistake to hurt him the Portugese don't give up and won.
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
I didn't see the match, but Ronaldo is such a frequent victim of the phantom sniper that it seems somehow poetic justice that he should be kicked around for real for once.
 European football discussion/results - Robin O'Reliant
Ronaldo comes across as a bit of a preening ponce, but I remember from his PL days he used to get some very heavy tackles on a regular basis. He always got up and got on with the game and never ducked the next challenge because of it. However he comes across, he is one very brave and tough player.
 European football discussion/results - devonite
I thought he was "Moth-eaten"! - what was it with the plague of moths in the stadium? was it his hair-gell?
 European football discussion/results - tyrednemotional
...can't say his personality impresses me much, but.......

He was the victim of a very heavy (but IMO fair) tackle, and was genuinely injured.

He then belied his reputation as a prima donna by figuratively kicking every ball whilst he was on the sidelines, and was (apparently) genuinely overjoyed when they won (looking much more a team-player than I expected in the circumstances).
 European football discussion/results - zippy
>>majic

I could not find "majic" in the dictionary but I did find this: www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc577.htm ,which probably explains a few things!
 European football discussion/results - WillDeBeest
Flippy is an alien?
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Do you think Wales can qualify for the 2018 World Cup.

I hope so.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Can England go undefeated in the World Cup qualifying campaign for the 2018 World Cup finals.
 European football discussion/results - Ian (Cape Town)
>> Can England go undefeated in the World Cup qualifying campaign for the 2018 World Cup
>> finals.
>>
so they can disappoint us all again come the finals?
 European football discussion/results - No FM2R
Have you noticed how movilogo Fluffy usually manages to get his grammar, spelling and typing pretty much correct when he's asking a question but writes like a drunk 2 yr old camel with a fountain pen at any other time?

I keep looking for the sites that he's cutting and pasting his questions from.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
I am saddened when England disappoint in the competitions such as European Championships and World Cup finals.

We have to play better if we are going to win anything.
 European football discussion/results - zippy
Well duh!
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
I think that actually Fluffy's comment is a succinct summary of what has been been said in about five acres of tabloid newsprint over past few weeks
 European football discussion/results - zippy
>> I think that actually Fluffy's comment is a succinct summary of what has been been
>> said in about five acres of tabloid newsprint over past few weeks
>>

No, it is stating the bleeding obvious!
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
Isn't that what the tabloid sports writers do?
 European football discussion/results - Dutchie
The players are good enough just a kick up the backside from Sam might bring results.
 European football discussion/results - fluffy
Hopefully Sam can inspire the England players to do better.
 European football discussion/results - CGNorwich
"Hopefully Sam can inspire the England players to do better."


"Going forward we will be producing better performances and better results."

Sam Allardyce

Job done.

 European football discussion/results - fluffy
We might have the chance to maybe win the 2018 World cup.
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