Actor Frank Kelly has sadly passed away!
Best known for playing Father Jack in Father Ted.
Surely a great under utilised actor because surely no one was quite ever that "p1ssed" all of the time!
RIP
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Isn't today the anniversary of Father Ted (Dermot Morgan) himself dying?
Edit: Just checked - Morgan died 28/2/1998.
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There's only one thing for it.... DRIIIIINK!!!
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That was one of the best comedies ever made. And as an Irishman raised as a catholic it hit the spot on every level. However exaggerated the characters I could identify every one of them as being like someone I know or knew. The priests who taught me at school both here and in Ireland were just like the ones in the program, and the nuns were just as uncaring and harsh as those portrayed. Even the priests didn't appear to like them very much.
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"Even the priests didn't appear to like them very much."
Course not - they're female and adult.
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Father Jack
Dressed in black
Silver crosses all ... oh hang on, bit of confusion there. Start again:
There can't be many people who didn't love Craggy Island and its inhabitants.
I like to think I resemble Father Jack quite closely, apart from my language which is far worse than his.
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>> "Even the priests didn't appear to like them very much."
>> Course not - they're female and adult.
Were you raised as a Catholic BBD, and abused by homosexual priests? I was so raised, and no prelate ever laid a hand on me or seemed to want to.
Being anti-Catholic is one thing, vulgar slander is another. I would have expected you to know the difference.
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It's no secret that children were sexually abused by priests and that it has cost the Catholic Church $3-4 Billion (depending on sources) and tens of millions in hush-money (also depending on sources). Course you know all that too. I'm just surprised that in that monumentally depraved affair what you find vulgar, is just me having a dig.
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>> I'm just surprised that in that monumentally depraved affair what you find vulgar, is just me having a dig.
Yeah, sorry Dave, I know you're OK really and quite well-informed.
I'm not really a defender of Catholicism either. But there's a widespread, quite ignorant bigotry about priests and their habits which isn't borne out by my own experience.
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Only ribbing you, AC. I had no interest in the slightest in Catholicism (or any religion), certainly never disliked it and I'm married to my second - till we had kids. Then bang, that was when the arguments started. My take was, stay away from religion, study and get educated, if you reach 18 and still need god, then fine if that's what you want. But wifey's family started to hassle her. 'Forced' is the wrong word, but not far from it. Then I really started to take an interest, read up on it, dug away at, if you like. The more I read, the more I wanted nothing to do with it. It's not just the sex abuse, it's Africa, contraception, HIV, the Vatican, stolen art, plundered gold, corruption, the Ustashi, da di da di da. I wish I'd never read about all that because until then, I only knew the good tales. The church looked after my wife when her dad abandoned them and took all the furniture with him. Tough times in an 80s police-state. She would go to the church after school, who would give her food parcels and took care after them until her mam found herself a job.
And wifey got her own way too, the kids had their baptisms and communions but I never went inside the church. That was always me, there, standing just outside, wearing a Sex Pistol or Porn Star t-shirt and scruffy jeans, upsetting her family (and half the congregation). Winding them up without having to speak. Kinda enjoy doing it too, my own little stance.
But what I absolutely love about the church, is the way the Polish women dress - like hookers. High heels, miniskirts and stockings. Pray and Display, as I call it. Something I do look forward to at every communion season.
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>> It's not just the sex abuse, it's Africa, contraception, HIV, the Vatican, stolen art, plundered gold, corruption, the Ustashi
Yes, the Church of Rome has a very blotted copybook.
Herself and I are atheists, but we were both Catholics once upon a time. Religious belief is a great comfort to many of those who have it, so good luck to them if that's the way they think. 'Church' in one form or another is built into us culturally, and into most of our compatriots.
I don't have the slightest wish to see religion disappear and a sort of 1984 official atheist scenario to take over. Quite the contrary indeed.
Middle daughter married in an Anglican church near here. It was a charming occasion. Had a slightly drunken chat with the vicar afterwards, nice cat he was too.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Thu 3 Mar 16 at 15:16
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>>Were you raised as a Catholic BBD, and abused by homosexual priests? I was so raised, and no prelate ever laid a hand on me or seemed to want to.
I heard some of Jimmy Savile's audience didn't get molested.
Doesn't make his existence worthwhile.
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>> I heard some of Jimmy Savile's audience didn't get molested.
>> Doesn't make his existence worthwhile.
Are you really putting the ancient Church of Rome back to back with the horrible nonce Savile? Not very, er, kulturny Lygonos I must say.
Calvinist background perhaps? Surely not...
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>> Calvinist background perhaps
Of course not - all religions are political organisations for the benefit of those in charge.
10,000 religions out there, and every one is the 'right' one.
Pure BS.
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>> 10,000 religions out there, and every one is the 'right' one.
>> Pure BS.
You know it and I know it Lygonos, but as I said above, it's a bit unkind (when it isn't actually dangerous) to speak crushingly of religion to believers.
And the fact that they exist in such large numbers gives their superstitions a sort of specious validity.
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Cruel to be kind, AC. Cruel to be kind.
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>>superstitions a sort of specious validity. >>
Specious indeed.
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>> 10,000 religions out there, and every one is the 'right' one.
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There is only one God, and it's my God, not yours. And if you don't believe that you'll rot in hell after I've tortured you to death like my God instructed me to do.
But don't worry, it's because he loves you.
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>> surely no one was quite ever that "p1ssed"
>> all of the time!
Remember the episode in which he sobers up? FLOOR!!! CURTAINS!!! AM I STILL ON THIS FECK*NG ISLAND???
Sadly, the second of the three has come to pass and the latter is no longer the case.
:-(
(feck a*** drink girls)
7 children and 17 grandchildren I read, perhaps Mr Kelly had a more conventional attitude to Catholic doctrine than the character he played.
Last edited by: Alanović on Mon 29 Feb 16 at 12:46
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He was in Emmerdale for a while playing Declan's dad. RIP.
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Having read his obit in the torygraph, I am going to have a look at the Italian Job this evening to see if I can spot him there
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Somewhat fittingly for this thread I fell foul of the swear filter on the first attempt. Apparently 'feck' is OK but its adjectival participle is disallowed. Feck*ng weird.
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>> Remember the episode in which he sobers up? FLOOR!!! CURTAINS!!! AM I STILL ON THIS FECK*NG ISLAND???
Remember the one in the 'plane with only 2 parachutes and the different priests have to tell the others why they should get one.
Cue father Jack and the drinks trolley with a parachute each.
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>> Remember the one in the 'plane with only 2 parachutes and the different priests have to tell the others why they should get one.
>> Cue father Jack and the drinks trolley with a parachute each.
I do Lygonos.
Father Jack is my double and role model.
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Oh Feck! - Alastairw
