Take your shoe size,
Multiply it by 5,
Next add 50,
Now multiply it by 20,
and now add 1,015,
Finally subtract your year of birth.
You should be left with 4 digits, the first two being your shoe size, the other two, your age.
It worked for me.
(but won't if you've already had a birthday this year {unless you add 1,016 instead of 1,015}, or you're over 100)
Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 19 Jan 16 at 10:14
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Nope, doesn't work for me, and I only get three digits at the end.
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I think I cocked up there
"You should be left with 4 digits, the first two being your shoe size, the other two, your age."
If your shoe size is <10 then you'll only get 3 digits, the first one being your shoe size, the other two, your age.
Unless you take ½ shoe sizes.
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>> You should be left with 4 digits, the first two being your shoe size, the
>> other two, your age.
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I don't know any women with size 10 or larger feet.
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>> I don't know any women with size 10 or larger feet.
See my post time stamped 10:35.
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That's the problem with mobile devices when you start typing, get pulled onto something else and then post.
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Doesn't seem to work on half shoe sizes. Or maybe it does. Gives me an age of ten, which is more than most people give me credit for
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Worked perfectly for me!
Pat
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>> You should be left with 4 digits, the first two being your shoe size, the
>> other two, your age.
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3 digits.
Last edited by: Cliff Pope on Tue 19 Jan 16 at 11:50
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918 (three times)
My shoe size is 8.5 and my age is not 18
Waste of time.
Last edited by: madf on Tue 19 Jan 16 at 12:16
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>> My shoe size is 8.5 and my age is not 18
See my post time stamped 10:35.
It doesn't work for people with ½ shoe sizes.
It only works for normal people ;)
ps, try it with size 8 or 9 instead.
Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 19 Jan 16 at 12:51
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It might have the 85 bit right, though...
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Shoe size x 5 was accurate enough for me.
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I don't wear shoes so it's no good me doing it.
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I used to share a student house with someone like you, Gospodin Sobaka. She'd come home in the evenings and sit on the sofa picking the broken glass out from the soles of her feet. Her cat was known to crap in people's beds. She was not a popular housemate. An Aristo. Seriously.
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I wear boots vić, have done for decades. Don't feel safe or comfortable wearing shoes. I like ankle support see.
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I wear boots mainly but for much more practical reasons.
You don't have to wear matching socks !
;-)
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I wear long (ish) woollen socks ... with my boots ... and I'm still wearing shorts = you get the picture!!
:-D
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All that aluminium is taking its toll
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arsenic, lead, iron, manganese, and radon in the water from my borehole more likely.
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 00:59
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....as above, mathemagics, eh....
The kids always used to like this one:
* Think of a number - any number (though, if mathematically challenged, make it small)
* Multiply it by nine
* Add the digits of your answer together
* Subtract five
* Where A=1, B=2, C=3 etc. what letter is represented by the number you are thinking of now?
* Think of a country beginning with that letter
* Think of an animal beginning with the second letter of that country
* What is the colour of that animal?
So, it's a xxxxxx xxxxxx from xxxxx
(the answer is largely, but not entirely, predictable unless you try to be deliberately difficult)
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Hardly magic; more like Year 8 algebra. If your age is a and a>12, you learned this at school. If we call the shoe size n, the first four steps give you
100n + 2015
Take away YoB and you have 100n + a. Which is why it doesn't work with fractional shoe sizes; use your European size instead - unless you're Roger or WP if course.
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I don't know anything about European shoe sizes, but one shoe size question I have is about UK ones.
What does the size measure? As in - I take an eight and a half. Is that eight and half inches, and is that the internal length of the shoe? I suppose it must be but I don't know for certain. I know I could get a ruler, but...
Anyway, the main question is - are women's shoe sizes the same? As in, is a woman's shoe in a size five, as Mrs takes, the same as a man's shoe in a five? I assume they must be, otherwise what would the woman's shoe be measuring?
Last edited by: Crankcase on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 08:02
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Possibly completely wrong I thought the half size indicated a broader fitting. 8 & 8.5 being the same length.
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Nope. It's all about barleycorns.
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I could write you an essay on shoe size grading but I an assure you we would all lose the will to live. Suffice it to say it's nigh on a black art and is very complicated.
Most people who are skilled with a sewing machine could make quite a good attempt at making a reasonable garment but making a pair of shoes, other than of the most basic type, is a whole lot more challenging.
Just to touch the tip of the iceberg so to speak, bear in mind that feet are about the most three dimensional and movable part of the body. ( lots of bones with lots of mobility ) They bend, they spread under load, they change in length depending on whether they are under or without pressure. Men's and women's feet are quite different as a rule with men's being averagely wider in proportion to their length and children's feet are different again having far less muscle development than an adults and hence a different shape. Last lengths change with heel height ( there would be a whole chapter on "crank angles" ) width also changes with length but not in direct proportion. Then you have the added complication of what standard measure has been used by the manufacturers. Are they using imperial standards, metric, American or other? ( there are many ) these do not conveniently conform to any standard measurement of length and in the case of the comparison between continental and uk sizing there are only a few instances where the sizes are so close as to be safely regarded as the same. Then you have people with wide feet, narrow feet, shallow feet, flat feet, different sized feet...
I could go on, but I'll spare you that. Only tip I can give you is try them on and decide for yourself whether they fit.
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 10:02
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If a recent report on the BBC news website is anything to go by, we'll all be wearing footwear created by 3D printers at some point in the near future.
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The technology does indeed exist and cad/cam has been in use for decades now in pattern grading. It still has its foibles though. If you're lucky enough to be a size/width/length/depth which more or less conforms to a set of averages you're fine but if you're not...
I'm going to stop now. I can feel an itch to type screeds on the subject and I need to do something else! ( and no one would manage to stay awake long enough to read it )
;-)
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 10:23
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>> Only tip I can give you
>> is try them on and decide for yourself whether they fit.
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And stick your feet under the X-ray machine in Clarks and watch your toes waggling about.
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Ah, now there's a whole other essay Cliff...studies have shown...oh never mind !
;-)
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All 12 of them in certain parts of Anglesey.
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Some good swimmers there mind. It's the webs.
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>> I could go on, but I'll spare you that. Only tip I can give you
>> is try them on and decide for yourself whether they fit.
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Actually, that was really interesting; always pleased to learn something from experts in their field.
In fact, we ought to have a thread where each member is given a post to chat freely about their area of expertise, now or in the past. Could be interesting indeed.
Anyway, if there's any more you want to share about shoe sizes I for one would read it with pleasure. Nearest interesting thing I came across in the last year or two was an intriguing (to me anyway) article about the different colours of German prostitute boots in the nineteen twenties, and what each colour meant in terms of what they catered for, as it were. I mean, come on, what's more fascinating than that?
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Well, here's a little thing which is blindingly obvious when you stop to think about it. It's of course less visible on men's shoes as the heel height tends to be relatively standard ( of course there is some difference between say a trainer and a pair of work boots for example but the effect I'm about to describe is less noticeable )
But for an extreme example, take a ladies shoe with a high stiletto type heel and another one which is the same size but is completely flat like a ballerina style pump. Now compare the length of them and you will find that the high heeled one is noticeably shorter from front to back but still fits rather same wearer perfectly.
This is due to the crank angle of the last ( the angle created by the vertical plane of the heel in relation to the horizontal plane of the sole )
Still awake?
By the way, just be careful not to be caught rooting around in your wife's shoe cupboard and comparing them without giving her prior notice...could lead to all manner of trust issues...
If you encourage me, I'll go on to talk about the benefits of having the correct "toe spring" for a particular type of shoe.
;-)
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Makes sense - the plane of the sole is just the hypotenuse, isn't it? So will vary as one of the sides changes.
Toe spring...go on?
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If you place a shoe ( without its occupant ) on a flat surface and look at it in profile, you will see a gap between the surface it's standing on and the bottom of the sole at the front of the shoe. This distance is called the toe spring.
If there were no gap it would have two detrimental effects. One would be that there would be more resistance to the natural "rolling" motion of the foot in normal gait and the other is that, particularly with slip on styles, it would fail to "clip the topline" in use and cause a sloppy fit.
The downward pressure on the toe spring in wear causes the uppermost edges of the shoe ( the topline ) to tighten and therefore hold on to the foot.
A normal toe spring is about the width of a pencil by way of another bit of trivia.
Heel / ball cavities next if you dare? Or if you prefer, we could cover shanking and bonking? If we really get into detail I could also say a bit about bottom filling, but that is quite a specialist area.
;-)
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That toe spring thing is excellent - never would have thought of that. Is that a twentieth century thing or did they do it forever? Darned clever. Shall be bringing that one out at the next meeting, whatever it's about, to enliven proceedings no end.
I'm more than happy with cavities. All fascinating stuff.
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No, it's very old tech indeed, I'll talk a bit more about other things another day if that's ok? Really must do something gainful for a while !...
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>>Only tip I can give you is try them on and decide for yourself whether they fit.
Wow - Thanks Runfer, I'd never have thought of that. Y'all learn something new here every day.
:o)
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Yeah fair enough, it does seem a bit obvious, but what I meant was, don't rely on two different shoes which are allegedly the same size actually fitting the same. You might well be a 10 in one but an 11 in another.
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>>You might well be a 10 in one but an 11 in another.
Many a true word spoken in truth ... as I've found.!
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I am curious though as to 10 what or 11 what. What is the unit?
And similarly what is the unit in the US and/or Europe since I am 10, 11 and 45 - (more or less, depending on the shoe).
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>> I am curious though as to 10 what or 11 what. What is the unit?
Isn't that where we started?
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Yes, but it didn't get answered, did it? Or did I miss it?
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Not in a clear way, no, but I took that to mean there isn't a clear answer, rather than an omission.
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See me after class FM2R jnr...
( young crankcase has grasped it )
;-)
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 14:08
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So a size 10 is a size 10 because the manufacturer said so, rather than it actually being a measurable size 10?
Well, that's just silly. I want it changed immediately. Who do I write to?
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Well, how would you measure it anyway? After all, an inch is only an inch because someone says so.
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>>After all, an inch is only an inch because someone says so.
But everybody agrees on what an inch is.
It does not appear that there is agreement on what 10 shoe-units is.
I repeat, I demand that it is changed. To whom do I write?
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You could try me. I am a senior member of an appropriate trade body. I promise to respond to your grievance, eventually.
;-)
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You cannot even insist that door mirrors are included in calculations concerning the width of a car, of what conceivable value will you be at establishing shoe sizing conventions?
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Ok, this is going to be mildly confusing I know, but some size 10s are not the same as other size 10s but that doesn't mean they are not both accurately called size 10. Both of those size 10s could still fit the same person but in a different way. One of them might have more depth and less width but the other might have the opposite characteristics. They could even be different in length depending on the heel height and / or toe shape but they might still both feel like a good fit on the same wearer. Or they might not.
All clear now?
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It's difficult to explain unless we go into ball and heel bowl cavities, stiffeners and girth measurements.
We'll cover all that next term for those of you still here...
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 14:26
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So a size ten shoe is really one with "a bunch of tunable parameters and other characteristics such that if you have a foot size arbitrarily labelled 10 this will fit it"?
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Pretty much Crankcase. Top marks !
Think of it like adjusting a car seat. Some people could be comfortable in a variety of positions often depending on the type of vehicle they are driving and in what circumstances.
Last edited by: Runfer D'Hills on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 14:32
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No doubt you are interested in the state of my daily pampooties Humph. They are quite expensive white moccasins with a practical, durable moulded on rubbery plastic sole and heel. They say they are Hush Puppies and I got them reduced in the Beller years ago now. Very seldom wear anything else. They don't smell too bad either.
They are dark with dried old mud at present but I do believe a damp wipe over would make them white again. But one doesn't want to look flash in a rural area.
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I would, in truth, only take a distant interest in them AC...
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>> I would, in truth, only take a distant interest in them AC...
Very sensible. Not suggesting you get too close.
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>>use your European size instead - unless you're Roger or WP if course.>>
For preference I use kilometres for road distances, kilos for food weights, but for smaller linear measurements I still relate better to inches!
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Trying to buy shoes makes me all cross. I do not have the English standard foot, far from it. In the UK, the standard width is F, with a few Es, and some FFs or Gs. I'm a C.
So many attempts at shoe shopping fail, and the last time I found a pair that could be made to fit, I promptly bought two pairs. Quite surprised the shop staff too! Mail order is out the question when sometimes nothing in a shoe shop fits.
In case anyone is wondering, added insoles help a bit, but the style helps more. A lace up, designed to have gaps between each side, can be done up by more than the designer intended.
Trainers are usually ok, but I've never worn a slip on in my life.
Not for nothing is Cockney rhyming slang for feet, plates. As in plates of meat.
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Where do you live SP? Might be able to give you a steer.
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Have you explored having your shoes made for you, or is that prohibitively expensive? Even if it's £500 a pair that's cheaper than the ones in the window down the road from me at Ede and Ravenscroft, where I hurry by with averted eyes for fear of temptation to the impossible.
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I'm near St Albans.
A fitter is one thing, but somebody still has to make the shoes, and no regular manufacturers do. Before I became deaf, I even rang up Clarks thinking they must make narrower fittings for export, and their outlet shop at Clarks Village ought to be a good place. They don't and it isn't... (I did go there on the off-chance, I have relatives in the West Country, so went the pretty way).
I did, years ago, go to one specialist in London, and came away with a pair that fitted. But they are not up to long walks etc, you'd be resoling them every 3 months. And that seems to go for most leather soled shoes.
Thankfully, from a foot perspective, I am no longer am able to walk huge distances.
Last edited by: Slidingpillar on Wed 20 Jan 16 at 16:30
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You could try Barkers ( Earls Barton ) Not up to speed with their current activities but they certainly used to make narrow fitting men's shoes back along.
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I was reading down this thread thinking "shall I mention my shoes" when the tread took a tern to Made to Measure.
Now I have shoes made by this chap www.shoemakers.org.uk/show.asp?id=16 . Met him at a Craft Fair where he drew round my feet, took a few other measurements and 2 to 3 weeks later a perfectly fitting pair of shoes arrived in the post. I have had a few more pairs made since (and as he keeps a record he has not had to remeasure unless I wanted something different like sandals) over the last ten years, and don't wear any of the mass produced shoes at all.
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>> Hardly magic
Are you saying it's cobbler's then ;)
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No doubt heel agree with that.
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>> No doubt heel agree with that.
Is that your Sole contribution?
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>> It's his last word.
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Spoken with a brogue.
Last edited by: Manatee on Thu 21 Jan 16 at 08:26
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