Never had any ears, would have been fixed to the wall by cast iron straps. You can get plastic "heritage styled" fixing hoops/straps but not sure if the size will be correct. Maybe some metal working skills with mild steel would help to make some.
This stuff is heavy with a capital H, (there is an amusing tale on HJ on how I know) will need good practical experience, some thinking outside the box and good tools (an angle grinder will be a must) to marry this lot with existing rainwater goods.
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Thanks, I'd presumed it must be straps there. Can't recall having seen them ever.
Discretion says AVOID: "There are a number small rust holes in a number of the pipes."
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"Discretion says AVOID: "There are a number small rust holes in a number of the pipes."
......... and cracks. To my untutored eye, it looks like a pile of scrap! ;-)
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From Bournemouth so impregnated with salt...
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>> "Discretion says AVOID: "There are a number small rust holes in a number of the
>> pipes."
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>> ......... and cracks. To my untutored eye, it looks like a pile of scrap! ;-)
peasants. Mind you its a badly worded add. It should say "Shows suitable signs of originality and age"
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The cracks don't worry me, there's plenty of pipe.
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>> The cracks don't worry me, there's plenty of pipe.
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Cracks in cast iron pipe spread along lines of weakness, like a sort of rot.
You can get rather nice plastic pipe with an imitation cast-iron surface, with suitably chunky end fittings, brackets etc. It's thicker than cheap pipe, so doesn't sag - always a give-away- and comes in different gutter profiles.
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They are rather amazing. Cast iron was the Victorian plastic. Thy made all sorts out of the stuff.
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>> They are rather amazing. Cast iron was the Victorian plastic. Thy made all sorts out
>> of the stuff.
You'll be telling me they made a bridge out of it next, and named the town after it.
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Ironbridge is well worth a visit. I rented a terraced house there for a week a few years back and took in a lot of the industrial archeological sites. The bridge is wonderful.
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>> The bridge is wonderful.
But made of forged iron I think, not rust-prone steel or fragile cast iron. Much more expensive than either of those of course, but very tough flexible weather-resistant stuff.
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No, it is made of cast iron. Cast just down the road form where it stands.
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No, it is made of cast iron. Cast just down the road form where it stands.
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>> No, it is made of cast iron. Cast just down the road form where it stands.
You could easily be right CGN, I won't argue. I have seen the bridge and crossed it on foot I think, but a long time ago.
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>> I have seen the bridge and crossed it on foot I think, but a long time ago.
My Nottting Hill buddy Beckett came from Cheshire. That's how I - sort of - know this stuff.
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British technology from the 18th century made the country rich and underpinned 19th century British imperial expansion and dominance. Every spectacular new structure became an advertisement for its patron, architect or engineer/ironmaster. With the development of our heartless technology came sweeping social change (most notably the creation of a new large class, the proletariat), and the widespread looting of imperialized undeveloped countries which were bent to our will, thanks to professional armies and the Gatling gun...
Is it perverse of me to be a bit proud of this record? The nation-state model has spread from Europe across most of the world. If intelligently administered it is no more harsh and brutal than any other system, less so than most actually.
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It is interesting to contemplate why the Industrial revolution took off in Britain rather than elsewhere. Why not France, Germany, Holland, India or China. all sorts of reasons given and economists are still arguing about it.
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Britain was the big honcho there for a while, but the other W European countries were jostling jealously for space, making their own technological innovations.
The imperial apogee has passed for this country and the technology has changed too... no more George Stevenson or Brunel, just that Jobs chap up a canyon launching a new, imaginary world.
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I just love Cast Iron Drainage, but in this instance I'd avoid. As some other worthy fellow said - AVOID.
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>> It is interesting to contemplate why the Industrial revolution took off in Britain rather than
>> elsewhere.
Everything required was there - Wood, coke, ore, water power, rich land owners with money and brains, all in the same place at the same time. Having seen paintings of the scene at its height, a whole place that truly looks like the fires of hell and the apocalypse at the same time, and the way its looks now its an incredible contrast.
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This fantastic picture, Zero?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalbrookdale_by_Night
Not sure he really did anything else of note though.
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>> This fantastic picture, Zero?
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>> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalbrookdale_by_Night
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>> Not sure he really did anything else of note though.
Aye, thats one of them, there are a few of the same genre
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>> It is interesting to contemplate why the Industrial revolution took off in Britain rather than
>> elsewhere.
Because nowhere else had the right conditions.
1. The reformation. Without the reformation, excess UK wealth would have been repatriated to Rome. Moreover, the church would likely have been too conservative. The freedom the reformation gave us was the seed needed to sow the Empire.
2. Germany didn't exist as a nation until 1871. Prussia wasn't big enough (and didn't get its wealth particularly the coal of the Ruhr) until Napoleon's defeat and the Vienna carve-up of his territory in 1814/15. By then they were 50 years behind us.
3. We were perpetually at war, and war is the father to invention. Without WW1, aeroplanes would have taken much longer to take off, as it were. Without WW2 transatlantic airlines would have been years in coming.
4. It was bound to happen in Northern Europe. 2000 years ago, proper civilisation was bound to start on the North side of the Med (the south side was too hot though it had suited the Egyptians a thousand years before; but things had moved on). Rome and Greece were hot so people had spare time to create a civilisation; British winters were too rough for us to do more than struggle to survive. Only with the arrival of heating in the house could winters in Britain be bearable. Widespread introduction of chimneys and fires in ordinary domestic houses was a feature of the 16th and 17th centuries. In Britain, unlike the Med, it was not too hot to work during the summer. So once our houses were heated we were able to work in relative comfort 12 months of the year. This gave us a huge competitive advantage over Continental Europe (too hot in the summer and/or too cold in winter).
Northern Europe had the reformation, and the Protestant work ethic.
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I have a three-bedroomed Victorian semi-detached and the cast iron pipes are still very much a feature over the bulk of the property.
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>> I have a three-bedroomed Victorian semi-detached and the cast iron pipes are still very much
>> a feature over the bulk of the property.
Well done.
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Fixing cast iron downpipes - Zero
