Anyone had this done?
Had already been waiting six months to see specialist after referral by my dentist. Finally got round to seeing her this morning.
Look like I can have the work done but will be a couple of two hour long sessions at least and no appointments available until March and April. 85% chance of successful outcome and can then have a crown fitted.
Total cost £1,000 plus
Alternatively could have the tooth extracted. If I want a replacement tooth more difficult than the crown option above.
To be honest getting fed up with waiting and kind of wish I had had the thing extracted in May but now have waited so long perhaps should go through with it. Really can't make up my mind
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Thought I had, but your tale of specialists etc make me wonder. I certainly have had the nerve removed from a couple of teeth and now wear crowns on them. Done by my dentist, waited no more than 2 weeks to start treatment.
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Mrs C had root canal and new crown a couple of years ago. Dentist did it all, cost about £600 I think from memory.
Varies a lot according to what exactly is being done of course - a colleague recently was told by three local dentists that the work needed for a new crown for him was anything from £1800 to £3000. He went to Spain where they did a perfect job (front tooth so very visible) for the princely sum of £400, and he got a holiday out of it too.
No idea why the price difference was there.
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12 months ago I had root canal and a crown - until 2 years ago I went privately but my dentist of 42 years retired.
2 quotes - £200 for NHS root canal + amalgam crown
or £450 for root canal + ceramic crown
No 6 molar i.e. 3 from the back so it did not really matter to me
My crown at the front is ceramic & done on the NHS in around 1967 so is coming up for 50 years old and wearing thin - it's the Mk3 - the Mk1 & Mk 2 only last a matter of weeks.
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I suspect that the term 'root canal work' might cover a multitude of possible procedures - like 'your car will need some bodywork doing, sir'.
Since our dental surgery 'went private' in 2006, I've kept a spreadsheet of activities and costs:
In August 2008, I recorded 'root canal - upper right 2nd premolar - £130'. This rascal now has a split root and I suspect that next time it plays up, it will have to come out.
In Feb 2013, I recorded for my wife 'root canal lower left premolar - £191.50'. This was followed up 2 days, then 2 weeks later by 'fit peg - £17.50' and 'fit crown £191.50' respectively. This was all done at the dental surgery, though it sounds more similar to your case, CG.
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"I suspect that the term 'root canal work' might cover a multitude of possible procedures - like 'your car will need some bodywork doing, sir'."
Root Canal treatment is a recognised procedure involving removing bacteria from the root canal. Specialists are endodontists. Some dentists will carry out the work but most lack the training, skills or specialist equipment.
www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Root-canal-treatment/Pages/Introduction.aspx
My dentist referred me to the endodontist back in May and I have only just seen her so you can see what the demand for the work is like.
There is literally only one endodontist in town so I can't really go elsewhere.
Apparently the root canals are about the thickness of a human hair so its fairly delicate work! Will take two two hour sessions to in the chair to complete at least.
I will then need to have a new crown fitted to the toooth by my dentist (NHS) so that another £120
Since I have been living with a gum abscess since May I'm getting kind of fed up with waiting
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Whip it out and have an implant, before the abscess does sufficient damage to the bone to negate that option.
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I've been referred to a root canal specialist three times over the past decade and on each occasion it has been a success, unlike the same procedure performed by a general dentist at a private practice some years earlier.
The most recent bill (around 3 years ago) was £550, and then whatever my excellent NHS dentist charged for fitting a crown.
Your quote seems a little on the high side to me, but in any event I would recommend that you have this work carried out by by a root canal specialist. Fortunately for me there are several within a 20 mile radius.
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I've had several. My dentist (private) does all the works, including implants.
The skill comes in going just deep enough to get right to the bottom of the roots (two of course if a back tooth) without risking breaking through the sidewall. (A bit like reboring an engine).
This requires a combination of very accurate measurement with a depth-marked drill bit, and also as-you-go X-rays to monitor progress.
Then there is quite a long process of disinfecting, temporary packing, leaving for a week, re-examining, to make sure there is no trace of infection inside.
Then cementing the post(s) into the roots as attachments for the crown.
The drill bits are very expensive I was told, and incredibly flexible. When I once questioned mine about what would happen if the bit broke, he said they don't. To demonstrate he took a bit and bent it double. It just sprang straight again.
A few years ago I was having this treatment at the same time as we were having brick gateposts constructed on a deep concrete foundation, with reinforcing posts buried inside.
The technique was remarkably similar, and we had amusing conversations comparing notes as our respective work progressed.
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Have they sorted you out yet, CGN?
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Well I have got a choice. Wait till the end of April for the root canal work which means by the time get a crown fitted it wil be around July or go down the extraction and implant route which would be a bit quicker. Still not decided what to do. Neither alternative seems a bundle of fun but the abcess isn't either.
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Depends where the goth is I suppose ( why did the spellchecker change tooth to goth? ) anyway, if it's near the back it'll not show if you get it pulled. I've had a couple out in recent years, one wisdom tooth and another next to it. Really didn't hurt with modern anaesthetic. Cashew nuts are the only thing which get stuck in the gap but as they are an occasional indulgence I can live with that downside.
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>> Wait till the end of April for root canal work
That seems an excessively long time to wait for treatment. I think I would be looking elsewhere - even if it meant more travelling.
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Or take a holiday:
"He went to Spain where they did a perfect job (front tooth so very visible) for the princely sum of £400, and he got a holiday out of it too."
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>> Or take a holiday:
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>> "He went to Spain where they did a perfect job (front tooth so very visible)
>> for the princely sum of £400, and he got a holiday out of it too."
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My last CS boss had extensive dental work dine in Hungary. Booked himself, wife and daughter into an aparthotel type place and spent time between treatments exploring Budapest.
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Have been to Budapest. Very nice city but trip slightly marred in hindsight by having had my credit card skimmed and £1500 spent using it in Italy.
Never use the taxis. They are run by local mafia and you will get ripped off (at best!)
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I have explored the possibility of using another endodontist within a 50 mile radius - there are three and the waiting lists are much the same. Don't really want to travel much further since the treatment involves a number of sessions. I also doubt that I will feel like driving half way across the country after two hours in the dentists chair.
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>> I have explored the possibility of using another endodontist extortionist
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Got fed up with waiting and booked in for an extraction at my dentist but next day heard from the endodontist who had a cancellation for today and had the first two hours of treatment this morning.
Really not too bad. In fact I dozed off briefly half way through despite a rubber wedge to keep my jaws open and a pairs of hands probing and filing away in my root canals.
I drove back form Bruges yesterday and still feeling a bit tired from the drive - Not the 55 minutes France/Belgium bit but the nightmare that was the Dartford Crossing yesterday. An hours queue northbound at 2.00 p.m.
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>> I drove back form Bruges yesterday and still feeling a bit tired from the
>> drive - Not the 55 minutes France/Belgium bit but the nightmare that was the Dartford
>> Crossing yesterday. An hours queue northbound at 2.00 p.m.
It was as bad today if not worse, been like it all week actually. So much for speeding things up by removing the toll booths !
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>> It was as bad today if not worse, been like it all week actually. So
>> much for speeding things up by removing the toll booths !
Thought they were still in place northbound. Is that not the case?
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The booths have gone but they still have barriers they can use to stop hazardous loads or over height vehicles. There is a good video on you tube showing how it works now.
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There are barriers and traffic lights to control congestion. They basically have to control the amount of traffic in the tunnels. They cannot allow stationary traffic in the tunnels because of pollution and ventilation problems so it is held until the tunnel is clear.
There is normally no problem southbound.
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I too thought removing the toll northbound would solve the problem, but whatever measures are taken the two tunnels still only have four lanes of traffic.
The pinch point means there are 7 or 8 lanes all going into four so it will continue to be a PIA forever!
Pat
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>> I drove back form Bruges yesterday and still feeling a bit tired from the
>> drive - Not the 55 minutes France/Belgium bit but the nightmare that was the Dartford
>> Crossing yesterday. An hours queue northbound at 2.00 p.m.
It was still bad at 18:00 - 40 mins from end of M20 to Thurrock. Earlier accident I think - once it's gone tit-zup it cannot recover until after peak. As we entered the east tunnel the west was closed to allow a convoy of escorted tankers through.
CG - presumably you avoided the trouble on the French side?
We were booked on the 16:50 shuttle. Leaving Boulogne around 15:00 the gantry signs had messages about pedestrians in the road around J42. In event autoroute was closed both ways from 41-43. Looked like a migrants issue as there were hordes of police ranging from municipal to CRS but no ambulances etc. No way into tunnel terminal. We shuffled round through Coquelles and then back round the perimeter road of Cite Europe.
A16 opened about 16:30 with inevitable check in and immigration queues. Caught 17:10 by skin of our teeth.
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>> CG - presumably you avoided the trouble on the French side?
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Got the midday ferry from Dunkirk. No hassle, no queues, and only a 50 minute drive from Bruges. Even when it's working properly I prefer ferries to the tunnel and it's cheaper too.
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>> Even when it's working properly I prefer ferries to the tunnel and
>> it's cheaper too.
Also prefer the ferry as I'm ready for a decent break by Dover and I like watching the shipping in the channel.
Mrs B though wanted the shuttle. For day trip/one night stays outside summer hols it's as little as £30 each way even to leave Folkestone 07:30 is and return late afternoon - cheaper than the ferry.
OTOH when we go in the summer for 16+ days the chunnel is ridiculously priced, even without a caravan.
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From root canal to Ferry's.Hope everything works out Norwich pain is no good.
I'm having some work down in February.New cap fitted back tooth about £200.
Next trip across will be on the Harwich Ferry,used to work on the ships for a few months fifty years ago.Queen Wilhelmina.Talking about travelling we where in Leeds yesterday nice visit to West Yorkshire playhouse daughter and granddaughter included.
We got a taxi from the playhouse to the centre,taxi driver from Kurdistan nice chap drives with his family there a few times a year from Leeds 4000 miles.I complain about 400 miles travel.
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Picture for you Dutchie!!
www.hhvferry.com/konwil.html
Went on to the ex sealink etc fleet operating in greece. Broken up early noughties.
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Well the root canal work is all finished. Five appointments in all including two three hour sessions and two two hour sessions all for one tooth!
Despite a lot of scare stories I have heard not painful at all just rather tedious sitting there with your mouth wedged open staring at a microscopes lens. Just need to see the dentist now to get a crown fitted.
But first a couple of weeks in Lanzarote.
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As we are doing updates, I posted upthread about Mrs C having her crown etc. It fell out three times last year, each time only a week or two apart. It was repaired at some cost each time, finally fell out again just after Christmas and the verdict was given it was unsortable so the remains of the tooth were finally pulled and she now has just a gap. It's not at the front luckily.
So there we are. With all the to do and an outlay of nudging a grand she might as well have had the tooth pulled on day one and be done with it, but dentists don't seem to want to do that.
I wonder why.
I'm sure yours will last you out though, CG! Good luck.
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>> So there we are. With all the to do and an outlay of nudging a
>> grand she might as well have had the tooth pulled on day one and be
>> done with it, but dentists don't seem to want to do that.
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>> I wonder why.
I think they want to try and save as many teeth as possible these days rather than just pull them.
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I had a crown made around 1968 after root canal treatment the tooth discoloured badly. The Mk1 crown lasted a few days, the Mk 2 lasted a few months and the Mk 3 has lasted 47 years!!
Dentist I have used for some 40 yrs retired and the "new man" suggested some work needed replacing all amalgam fillings, replacing the then 44 year old crown.... the list went on & on. I did however get 1 damaged tooth fixed & a small filling + scale & polish @ a not inconsiderable £300.
He suggested breaking down all the work into 3 lots @ some £500/£600+ each..............so in total some £2000+!!
6 months later the surgery was up for sale again - 40 years with 1 dentist and sold 3 times in 3 years.
Went to another new dentist after that - "nothing wrong that I can see" come back in 12 months.
Next occasion Root canal & 1 crown £450..........a lot less than the Greedy Beggar's £2000+ although I still have amalgam fillings which are not the best.
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Root canal work - Slidingpillar
