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Thread Author: Bobby Replies: 65

 Spectre - Bobby
Saw this yesterday - enjoyed it, not sure if it was as good as Skyfall though.
As with all JB films you don't want to follow the story in too much detail or it may not make sense!

Anyone else seen it?
 Spectre - Runfer D'Hills
Saw it last week Bobby, we enjoyed it too but I couldn't help wondering how he got that DB10 from London to Rome so quickly ! I mean I know it's a fast car but y'know...
 Spectre - CGNorwich
Yes saw in on Tuesday. Enjoyable, good action sequences particularly the car chase in Rome. I think I preferred Skyfall but a good night out.
 Spectre - zippy
Saw it last night.

Really enjoyed it but don't think it was as action packed as Casino Royale or as intense as Quantum of Solace. Better than Skyfall in my opinion which was too much like home alone in the second part.

Liked the re-introduction of humor, which was missing in some of the earlier Craig films and the villains lair. -Liked the fact that the film didn't end at the villains lair.

Some of the stunts were a bit old hat like the plane chase.

Good story and twist (though it could be seen a mile or two away).

Would like to have seen more of Mr White who comes across as a really baddy in previous films but only had a few moments on screen this time.

(PS, there isn't a bad bond film despite what the girlfriend says.)
 Spectre - legacylad
Off to see The Martian tonight. Then ' It Follows' when I get home.
 Spectre - R.P.
As previously mentioned The Martian is a cracker. Read the book since and it was a page turner despite knowing the end
 Spectre - CGNorwich
Certainly Ridley Scott's best film for years.
 Spectre - Boxsterboy
Saw it with half a dozen teenagers last week.

I thought the story-line was far simpler and easy to follow than some Bonds. As it was 2.5 hours long I was expecting more action - the amount of action seems the same as in a 'normal' Bond but with more non-action interludes. Casino Royale remains my favourite Bond. Spectre still recommended, though!
 Spectre - zippy
>>As it was 2.5 hours long I was expecting more action - the amount of action seems the same as in a 'normal' Bond but with more non-action interludes.

Some critics slammed the back story - say it is not needed. I think it added to the film and makes them more interconnected and a better story for it.

More Bond please!
 Spectre - Ted

Not into Bond at all but went last weekend twice. First time to see Suffragette, which was quite interesting although the most interesting bit, to me, was the few minutes of archive film of traffic before the Kaiser war. Meal at The Cheshire Lines pub ( old station ) after.

On Saturday afto we took 4 of the rug rats to see Pan. I was dreading it but it turned out to be a good romp with special effects and a lot of noise. They all stayed the night, sleeping wherever they fell ! Full death defying English in the morning !
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
I hate James Bond and James Bond movies. When I said so to herself she replied: 'This one's supposed to be quite good.'

So I said if she gets it out on DVD I'll take a look at it. But I despise the whole Bond thing (even though I sort of liked it when I was small, simple-minded and chauvinistic).
 Spectre - helicopter
Off to see it this afternoon....will give my report tomorrow.

 Spectre - Roger.
I've yet to see Skyfall, even though it's been on my Humax PVR for months!
 Spectre - helicopter
Just got back ......very enjoyable ,typical Bond.

Worth seeing .

Looking forward to seeing The Lady in the Van when it comes round next week.
 Spectre - Haywain
Went into town this afternoon with my wife to see Spectre; I just don't know why I bother with Bond films, each new one is the same as the last one - eventually they all merge and I can't remember one from the other. I fell asleep twice in the first 10 minutes, waking only when nudged by my wife, and I struggled throughout to stay awake.

The trip to town wasn't entirely wasted, though, as we were able to drop the Focus off for replacement coil pack/leads.
 Spectre - legacylad
Helicopter
I shall look forward to that. Occasionally meet AB when he is in my part of the world. Nice bloke... I thoroughly recommend 'Untold Stories'. Both funny & sad.
 Spectre - madf
Went to see it yesterday with family. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Did NOT fall asleep.
 Spectre - Haywain
"Did NOT fall asleep."

Well done, madf, I wish I had your stamina! For me, alas, hope triumphed over experience.

Strangely, the most memorable film for me in the last year - I say 'strangely' because I was absolutely NOT expecting to like it, was 'London Road'. Generally, I can't stand 'musicals', but this was a sort of opera based on the recovery of an Ipswich community after the murder of 5 prostitutes. The libretto was provided by snatches of actual news reports and conversations recorded at the time.

Understandably, the film was never going to be a blockbuster and, googling for reviews, I came across this one - which Brompt will appreciate 'cos it's from the Graun
www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/11/london-road-film-review-gripping-macabre-verbatim-musical
 Spectre - Focusless
>> 'London Road'

Trailer - www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBMYeG7pMM

Looks interesting, and very good reviews - TV ch 4 or film 4 next year perhaps?
 Spectre - legacylad
My fav film of the year has been ' Man Up' starring Simon Pegg & Lake Bell. It appealed to my sense of humour. How I larfed.
 Spectre - Dog
Um, www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/11/london-road-film-review-gripping-macabre-verbatim-musical
 Spectre - Fursty Ferret
Saw it last night. Entertaining watch but not as good as Skyfall.

Some of the humour felt terribly forced a la Roger Moore style, no wonder Daniel Craig wants out.
 Spectre - Focusless
>> Um,

Same review that Haywain linked to?
 Spectre - Dog
>>Same review that Haywain linked to?

I didn't read that post as I'm not interested in Bond films.
 Spectre - Focusless
>> >>Same review that Haywain linked to?
>>
>> I didn't read that post as I'm not interested in Bond films.

That was the post that brought up 'London Road'! :)
 Spectre - Dog
>>That was the post that brought up 'London Road'! :)

Course, but it was at the end of a long (ish) post about Spectre whereas yours was more noticeable, to me.

I do like Bond, but it has to be James Bond 007. I like pussy galore as well.

:}
 Spectre - Focusless
Haven't seen it yet, but did enjoy Sam Smith's performance of the theme song (wot he wrote) on Graham Norton the other week, along with full orchestra. Talented lad.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1N9B49TXjs
 Spectre - Dog
Power-full stuff. Is that what you do Focus, play an instrument in a brass band?
 Spectre - Focusless
>> Power-full stuff. Is that what you do Focus, play an instrument in a brass band?

Er... my concert band (aka wind band, no strings) isn't quite in that league :)

My instrument is clarinet - this is me (you might want to move your dog away from the speakers first):
youtu.be/A5wcBQQlHic?t=512
 Spectre - Dog
>>you might want to move your dog away from the speakers first

Two Dogs! - Neither of them howled so that's a result :)

I've always thought it must be quite something to be part of a full orchestra, and wondered if say I was a violinist and hit a bum note, would it be that noticeable in the grand scheme of things, like.
 Spectre - No FM2R
>>would it be that noticeable in the grand scheme of things

No. 2 is in an orchestra and the answer is yes, it stands out like a sore thumb. However, unless they do it repeatedly its pretty much impossible to work out who it was.
 Spectre - Dog
How about the conductor, could an orchestra not do just as good a job without him/her?
 Spectre - Haywain
"How about the conductor, could an orchestra not do just as good a job without him/her?"

It depends on the piece of music and how well the band/orchestra knows it.

About 30 years ago we were attending the Eye (Suffolk) annual show and the Band of the Gurkha Regiment took to the bandstand. Before they opened up with their first piece, the conductor swooped from the stand, scooped up my 3-year old son, took him back to the stand and gave him the baton and his military hat. My terrified son waved the baton about a bit and the band played perfectly ....... you can take from that what you like!
 Spectre - Dog
>>My terrified son waved the baton about a bit and the band played perfectly ....... you can take from that what you like!

Walt, he now conducts the RPO, right :)
 Spectre - Haywain
"Walt, he now conducts the RPO, right :)"

Yep!

Well, no actually, I think that experience put him off that sort of music for the next 30 years.
 Spectre - No FM2R
Each instrument needs to know when to start its bit. And it might have many bits. if there are a number of instruments all due to start at the same point they could

1) all listen closely to the music and each make their judgement as to the moment to start and see how close they can get to each other

2) just let one person tell them all and know that they will all start at the same moment..
 Spectre - Crankcase
If anyone is interested in an hour long video about some in depth musicality from someone who really knows his stuff, might I recommend

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E7eOqNvt84

It's about Sir Arthur Sullivan and his songwriting techniques, so might be a bit niche.

I'm no expert musician, just interested and bash about a bit on keyboards, but I found it really interesting.

 Spectre - R.P.
I now sing in a choir - a large mix choir (four voices)...the choir master is a professional musician. He barely conducts though...good sound...
 Spectre - Focusless
It's all about listening to each other. Without a conductor, a band might all start together, but unless they are listening to each other they will soon drift apart.

That's something our conductor does from time to time - just stop conducting and see how well (or otherwise) the band keep together. In the sort of amateur bands I play in, it's a good test; you'd assume a professional lot would do a bit better.

Applies to dynamics (ie. volume) as well as timing.
 Spectre - Dog
Being part of an orchestra must be a good discipline for a child, akin to a martial art.
 Spectre - Focusless
>> Being part of an orchestra must be a good discipline for a child, akin to
>> a martial art.

Conductor does work for this lot, who have helped a lot of kids:
www.brassforafrica.com/

The opportunity to learn and play music with others gives children and young people self-belief, self worth, confidence, a voice and renewed hope for the future.
 Spectre - Focusless
>> >>would it be that noticeable in the grand scheme of things
>>
>> No. 2 is in an orchestra and the answer is yes, it stands out like
>> a sore thumb.

Not if everyone's doing it! The parents of most musicians have sat through junior concerts where there are more wrong notes than right :)
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
>> Sam Smith's performance of the theme song (wot he wrote) on Graham Norton the other week, along with full orchestra. Talented lad.

Yes. But not my sort of thing at all... doesn't swing by any stretch of the ear, and I get tired of falsetto. Perhaps I'm just a philistine.
 Spectre - helicopter
I have read Untold Stories and the Lady in the Van .I find his descriptions of northern life are so similar to my own .......

Incidentally Haywain, The tickets have been booked for Milos in March.....SWMBO spotted that he was coming and booked up before I had a chance to surprise her.

Another thing to look forward to...
 Spectre - Haywain
"Incidentally Haywain, The tickets have been booked for Milos in March....."

I think you said that it was the Horsham gig that you had your eye on - looking at 'contact's on his website, it appears that his management company is Horsham-based.

I was reminded about your interest in seeing Milos on Monday evening when a banjo pupil mentioned 'this brilliant guitarist', thereby presenting me with a splendid opportunity to retell the story about how I bumped into him at Snape ;-)
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
>> I have read Untold Stories and the Lady in the Van

The van was parked round the corner from my gaff near Highbury Barn, and I remember the lady.

Met the man once or twice too. He's a brilliant writer. But we weren't destined to be friends, because he was a member of a Primrose Hill clique that was snooty with me, an attitude I was happy to reciprocate in spades. Bunch of sanctimonious squares.
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
>> Met the man once or twice too. He's a brilliant writer.

But when I said this to Herself, she said Yes, up to a point, in a certain way, but...

She's a very good influence. She didn't really like the Primrose Hill lot either. Reassuring.

Well done Alan Bennett though. Takes brains and hard work, that stuff.



Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Thu 5 Nov 15 at 20:03
 Spectre - legacylad
Finally got round to seeing it at the Vue, Ocean Terminal, Newhaven ( Leith). Being on a very large screen, with excellent sound, I enjoyed it more than expected. I wanted to see three other films, not showing on the Sunday night when I was free, but enjoyable nonetheless.
Preferred The Martian
 Spectre - legacylad
Actually, it was Monday night.
That wot happens when you go away for a long weekend with friends. Sunday night was The Stand Comedy Club where, being on the front row, and full of pop, we got as many laughs as the acts!
 Spectre - Focusless
Saw it Friday night. Don't go out of my way to watch 'action' films, but really enjoyed it. Don't really remember the previous 2 that well, but I think this one was better. Good mix of drama/humour, and some fantastic cinematography.

I don't know if anyone else in the Reading area has been to Showcase in Winnersh recently, but it's been refurbished with big electric reclining seats with loads of legroom; you can have your legs stuck out in front of you (on the pop up rest) and people can still walk past. I guess they're trying to compete with Vue in the Oracle, which probably remains the place to go if you want something to eat. Also, they've covered the seats in leather-look non-breathable plastic material, which means I tend to come away a bit damp; not great for the walk back to the car across a windy car park.

And you can still end up sitting next to someone noisily munching their way through a big box of popcorn :)
 Spectre - smokie
I was there last weekend Focusless to watch Spectre. Quite impressed with both the facility and the film. Last time I went to the pictures was probably the late 90s.
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
The movie cameraman Son-in-law has been earmarked for an upcoming supercolossal sci-fi spectacular (he has a track record in such movies).

Good wages, alhamdulillah... but nothing is certain in capitalism. And superstition says it's a bad idea to seem sure of anything. So one hopes for the best.
 Spectre - Alanovich
Yes, FL, I went to the improved Showcase recently. What with the superior seating and the free parking, it will now be my default cinema for my occasional trips. Parking at the Oracle for Vue is now hideously expensive.
 Spectre - CGNorwich
Out of interest, how much is " hideously expensive" My Vue is in a shopping mall and they are now charging £2 for evening parking - it used to be free for cinema goers
 Spectre - Alanovich
I got stung for 7 quid after 2 hours recently. The car park is shared between cinema and shopping/restaurants centre.
 Spectre - Zero
If you want hideously expensive, my local everyman is the one to go for. £13.70 a ticket, £30 for a two seat sofa. It is however worth every cent, with superbly comfortable seats, a bar, good coffee, wine chillers, and waitress service.
 Spectre - R.P.
"Everyman" touch of irony..
 Spectre - rtj70
Our local independent offers all of that apart from the waitress service. But a fraction of that price. But we're not down south. A sofa for two is £18 (£15 for members) and a luxury seat is £9 (£7.50 for members).

I have to say the sofas are really comfortable. It's only recently reopened so have not tried a normal seat yet.

On the subject of drinks/bar and wine chillers - loads of people partake in this and it must make the cinema a decent profit. But quite a few then have to pop to the loos during the film and miss parts. Recently saw Spectre and loads were doing this. One chap thought went and got a second bottle of wine!
 Spectre - smokie
Yeah that also happens in concerts. Do people really need to neck a few pints to sit somewhere for an hour or so? Can they not go 50 minutes without a drink? Don't they understand the limitations of their bladder?
 Spectre - CGNorwich
Indeed. The manners of some cinema goers are pretty deplorable. Constant eating and drinking are the least of it . Glare from mobile phone screens, chatting , explaining the plot to thieir friend, kicking the back of your chair are all things I have encountered. Earlier in the year I arrived to find someone sitting in the seats I had pre- booked. He was quite put out when I suggested he moved and he said that I should sit elsewhere. Took the manager to get him to move.

Wherever possible I tend to avoid the big multiplexes.




 Spectre - Focusless
>> kicking the back of your chair

Well at least you avoid that at the refurbed Showcase, as it's physically impossible to reach the chair in front.
 Spectre - Zero
Back to the film Spectre. One of the best bonds for ages, probably the best with Daniel Craig.

Except

His wardrobe is starting to bug me. A lot. His jackets and shirts are far too tight, button stretching tight. Ian Fleming with his love of sea island cotton or silk shirts, perfectly cut, would be horrified.
 Spectre - WillDeBeest
That seems to be how jackets in particular are cut these days - not only tight but short too; it's a fashion thing. Doesn't work for me; I'm not exactly Mr Universe but I've had to stop buying 44L jackets in a couple of my preferred German brands because my shoulders simply don't fit into them. I have to buy a 46L instead (or even, once, a 48L - my actual chest measurement is more like 43) and then have the side seams taken in to avoid looking like Tom Kerridge in last year's suit.

Mr Craig is rather more athletically V-shaped than me, so likely to have the same problem, only more so. I agree with Z: regardless of fashion, most of us look better in clothes that fit.
 Spectre - Crankcase
CG makes a good point - the ambiance isn't always conducive to the willing suspension of disbelief.

Worst we had was a couple of lads who knew the film so well they did ALL the lines two seconds before they were said onscreen. For. The. Entire. Film.

They were near enough to be annoying but far enough away not to be susceptible to a very British muttered "I say old chap, would you mind awfully, it's such a bore to have to ask, I'm really dreadfully sorry", which is my weapon of choice. Given that it's almost always such an entirely ineffective weapon I don't know why I still choose it. Can't help it really.
 Spectre - Armel Coussine
I'm like that too Crankcase, total wimp about complaining.

A certain sort of American woman is a good, assertive complainer. Get a tame one and take her along.
 Spectre - Crankcase
I work with one, AC, and yes, she would brook no nonsense. Never does. She's brilliant. Scary. But brilliant.
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