Non-motoring > A P.C. thread.. Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Roger. Replies: 20

 A P.C. thread.. - Roger.
....ridiculous PC stuff to be mocked.
Feel free to participate!

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/caroline-farrow-lets-get-this-straight-a-man-cannot-give-birth/
 A P.C. thread.. - Roger.
Yeah - I know it's from a "despised by lefties" source: yeah I know it's a link rather than an opinion argued, but I think this is beyond PC laughability!

www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/03/feminist-conference-in-meltdown-no-platforming-unsafe-speakers-exposes-warring-factions/
 A P.C. thread.. - Bromptonaut
>> Yeah - I know it's from a "despised by lefties" source: yeah I know it's
>> a link rather than an opinion argued, but I think this is beyond PC laughability!

Infighting within group of committed campaigners?

Oooodathortit?

Nothing like that ever happens in, say, right leaning anti EU parties does it?
 A P.C. thread.. - Manatee
>>Oooodathortit?

Your digs are becoming predictable, Bromp:)

I see a Guardian writer has banned herself from that conference in protest. Whether the banning of speakers is actually anything to do with political correctness, or just a variety of facism, I'm not sure.
 A P.C. thread.. - Bromptonaut
>> I see a Guardian writer has banned herself from that conference in protest. Whether the
>> banning of speakers is actually anything to do with political correctness, or just a variety
>> of facism, I'm not sure.

Excepting those who might contravene the law on race (or other equality issues) or raise public order concerns I tend to see it as facism.

But applying that principle to a specific circumstance is hard work.
 A P.C. thread.. - sooty123

>> www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/03/feminist-conference-in-meltdown-no-platforming-unsafe-speakers-exposes-warring-factions/
>>


This bretbort bloke is he looking for a job as a journalist?
 Racist promotional sombreros confiscated - Manatee
I can't even begin to imagine what the Daily Mail said about this, or the comments to the article -

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombreros
 Racist promotional sombreros confiscated - The Melting Snowman
Used to be known by some as the University of Easy Access. I do not know whether this is true - or ever was.
 Racist promotional sombreros confiscated - Cliff Pope
It almost makes me want to wear and sombrero and a T-shirt saying "I am Pancho Villa".
 Racist promotional sombreros confiscated - Bromptonaut
>> www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombreros

Even I'm struggling to see anything problematic about giving away sombreros. OK, it might play on a stereotype but not in an way that's remotely offensive or discriminatory.

Mexican food's not really my thing but casual observation suggests sombreros and bottles of spirit with a worm in are near universal decoration.
 Racist promotional sombreros confiscated - Haywain
My wife was telling me that it was 'European Day', or something like that, at her school on Friday. Most of the kids and staff went wearing black berets and sporting a string of onions round their necks. Clearly, multi-sins were committed.
 A P.C. thread.. - Bromptonaut
>> ....ridiculous PC stuff to be mocked.
>> Feel free to participate!
>>
>> www.conservativewoman.co.uk/caroline-farrow-lets-get-this-straight-a-man-cannot-give-birth/

This article is an interesting case study into the sort of thing that the Rogers of this world portray as 'PC'.

Let's ignore for a minute the sectarian wrangling amongst US midwives and cut to the key facts. If you meet transgender people professionally or socially the norm is to respect the gender in which they identify. So if, reversing Ms Farrar's example, a person with a penis and testicles identifies and dresses as a woman and introduces themselves as Jane you use their female name and refer to them as her/she. If she asks where the loos are you direct her to the female facility.

I've met two trans people through work, one a staff trainer at HQ the other a quango member colleague who were male to female trans. The latter 'went the distance' and had surgery. It's not actually that difficult to deal with at a human/human interaction level.

Now the female/male trans who retains female genitalia AND goes on to get pregnant is (i'm guessing) a very rare occurrence. But when it happens he deserves the same courtesy as the examples above.
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 4 Oct 15 at 09:58
 A P.C. thread.. - Manatee
>>This article is an interesting case study into the sort of thing that the Rogers of this world portray as 'PC'.

You're hearing that dog whistle again Bromp. Maybe it's tinnitus. I thought you were against playing the man instead of the ball?

The 'objection' that the article rather long-windedly raises is at the idea that the language of midwifery should become gender neutral. I thought it as silly as Roger evidently does. Presumably the literature, discussion and verbal communication in obstetrics and midwifery are laden with references to the mother/woman, to which a small proportion of the even smaller proportion of child bearers who have transgendered to become men-with-wombs objects.

Whilst I don't think it is unreasonable for 'transgendered' women>men giving birth to request that they should referred to individually as "he", "him" or the gender-neutral and clunky "the person", I think it is they who should adapt to the standardised use of the term "mother" or "woman" generally; and I think most of them would (assuming you could even find a representative sample).
 A P.C. thread.. - Westpig
Good post Manatee, in Bromptonaut's world I must be a 'Roger of this world'. Have a green thumb.
 A P.C. thread.. - Robin O'Reliant
For PC gorn mad, try this -

www.cyclechat.net/threads/explaining-two-charming-young-ladies-to-the-wife.188696/
 A P.C. thread.. - Manatee
Couldn't hear myself think for the dog whistles, reading that:)

Safer not to say anything, really.
 A P.C. thread.. - madf
>> For PC gorn mad, try this -
>>
>> www.cyclechat.net/threads/explaining-two-charming-young-ladies-to-the-wife.188696/
>>

Fascinating.. More than one OCDC person on the same thread... Must be cyclists :-)
 A P.C. thread.. - Roger.
..and so it goes on!

A high profile student activist who has campaigned against “rape culture” has resigned from all political position and barred herself from National Union of Students (NUS) events and safe spaces because she is “unsafe.” She said she had “failed to properly establish consent before every act” during a sexual encounter at the NUS annual conference, and had “touched somebody in a sexual manner” in a night club three years ago.

For the full article:-

tinyurl.com/oapn2f6

For those of a nervous PC sensibility that's a link to that "awful" Breitbart London!
 A P.C. thread.. - sooty123
I'm not sure what there is to be offended by. Could a non PC non nervous breibort fan (etc etc) explain ?
 A P.C. thread.. - Roger.
There are some folks here who look upon the Daily Mail & Breitbart London with righteous left wing horror! (Much as I look on The Guardian from a different political perspective!)
 A P.C. thread.. - sooty123
I meant the article itself, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be offended by?

I'm not horrified by either them.
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