Most people in my age group seem obsessed with their health. Taking pills for high blood pressure or worrying about their cholesterol levels, limiting their alcohol intake or giving up caffeine. Else they are claiming to be allergic to something or other or subjecting themselves to some ludicrous exercise regime.
Do they think they are going to live forever if they adopt the right lifestlye? Do they believe that there is anything in this world worth giving up for an extra month in a care home?
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>> Most people in my age group
Sorry CGN - which group is that?
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Most people in my age group
sixties
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I used to take about 10 pills a day - vits, fish oil, lycopene, garlic, MSM/Chondroitin, low dose aspirin etc. Medical opinion suddenly said aspirin wasn't a good idea and I gave up on the lot a year ago, with no apparent decline in my health or faculties. Mind you I was shocked when my doctor told me that 5 cans of Magners didn't count as 5 pieces of fruit a day!
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5 cans of Magners didn't count as 5 pieces of fruit a day!
Of course not - you need some fermented barley and grapes to maintain a balance!.
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>> ............ limiting their alcohol intake
>> Do they believe that there is anything in this world worth giving up for an
>> extra month in a care home?
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An under-60 friend wished he had limited his alcohol consumption when he was told that it had resulted in colon cancer and he subsequently had to have his colon and the whole of his lower bowel removed.
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I doubt that alcohol was the root cause for his colon cancer.
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My dad started getting picky about food approx ten years ago ( age 61 ) and while he never managed to give up smoking cigars for more than a year, he lost all excess weight although this was it seems too late as he had a heart attack age 70 which he was told due to his careless lifestyle in his younger years ( fried everything etc and generally too much food/beer ).
Now he had a load of pills to keep him going. He also had prostate cancer last year, so he takes stuff to keep his blood thin, hormone treatment to keep the cancer in check ( all clear for nearlya year now ) and about 3 others that I know not of their purpose.
He also now eats very healthy such as fresh fish, home-grown veg and the like. He also does things like eating dark chocolate because he read somewhere that its a good thing. I think he reads too much!
Still, if you want to sum up and in his words ' Three strikes and your out - ive had two within 6 months of eachother, so I better behave now '. Apparently he is in the best health he has been in many years as a result so he must be doing something right.
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Having briefly died two years ago (and lo! He is risen again) I can safely say the only change to my lifestyle has been a switch from beer (contains wheat) to cider and a general switch away from sausage, pies and bread to, errr, wheat-free sausages, pies and bread. All of which costs more.
Amusingly, if I was diagnosed with Coeliacs (nasty, but single exposures won't kill you) I could get a lot of the food on prescription. Being diagnosed with Wheat Dependant Anaphylaxis (which can kill me in 5 minutes of having a biscuit thrown at me) means I can't get it on prescription. If anyone can work that one out, let me know.
ND <-- He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
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I think it's sensible to have health checks, especially at certain ages (50+ in my case) - my cholesterol is higher than it could be 6. something so I've modified my diet - don't really want to die without enjoying my retirement. I'm not on tablets but modified my diet, I don't go on about it.....
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cholesterol is no big deal really, but it is to big pharma,
high ldl can be corrected by eating more good fats like oily fish & olive oil.
most cholesterol is made by our liver - without it we'd die.
trans fat / hydrogenated fat is the baddy, often found in *junk* non-food.
A fair few eating establishments cook with trans/hydrogenated fat :(
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>>(which can kill me in 5 minutes of having a biscuit thrown at me)
Here, catch !!!
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>> could get a lot of the food on prescription. Being diagnosed with Wheat Dependant Anaphylaxis
>> (which can kill me in 5 minutes of having a biscuit thrown at me)
So only 1 shredded wheat for breakfast then?
Just off for my greasy white bacon sarnie on white.......
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It's not just a question of how long you'll live. It's also about what your state of health will be and how this will impact on your quality of life.
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>>high ldl can be corrected by eating more good fats like oily fish & olive oil
Well, it can be lowered. Not sure about corrected, though...
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>>Well, it can be lowered. Not sure about corrected, though...<<
Depends how one defines *correct* really, anyway ~ triglyceride's are the ones to watch,
and they can be corrected/reduced via a low carb diet.
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>>and they can be corrected/reduced via a low carb diet.
No pasta, bread, rice or alcohol. Pass the statins, please.
:-)
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OFFS.
I shall enjoy life, even if it means an early demise.
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I don't see the attraction of ever ending up in a care home.
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if you live too long you end up there anyway. Still you wont know where you are.
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Many in care homes are quite happy with their lot. I think that I could adjust to that way of life if necessary.
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If I could sit in a chair and have some PYT bring me food and gove me a sponge bath, I think thats a fair way to go :-)
Actually, my nan lives with my parents because a care home isnt her idea of freedom. Its all about perception really as we all watch her very closely and intercept her mail ( she was one of those sending off money for prizes that dont exist etc ), but in her mind, she is independant. She has terrible short term memory which is just an age and sheer bad luck thing, so no diet could have helped her with that I suspect.
I think those warden assisted places look like a hassle free solution. We have had a new retirement village built just down from my parents village and it looks nicer than many new housing estates. Its immaculate and the places arent expensive either.
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>> I don't see the attraction of ever ending up in a care home.
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I have long been of the opinion that come the time when I can no longer ride motorbikes or women, I have no wish to overly prolong my stay.
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>>No pasta, bread, rice or alcohol. Pass the statins, please.<<
Low carb isn't no carb, we all need a plate of chips n' a pint now and then :D
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I think this is what I have failed to crasp. I generaly live the moment as I can't afford the house, will retire on floor 95 of some tower block in Stretford (well thee tower block) so I just don't see the point. Beer makes it so much easier.
That said I only drink at weekends and I do try and eat fruit and veg when I can. The main problem is I drink too much coca-cola so now have a real risk of getting dieabeties.
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And losing all your teeth Rattle - re CocaCola!
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>> The main problem is I drink too much coca-cola so now have a real risk of getting diabetes.
Switch to diet coke or coke zero then.
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>> >> The main problem is I drink too much coca-cola so now have a real
>> risk of getting diabetes.
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>> Switch to (..) coke zero then.
Have a drink and an ear-bashing at the same time!
(with apologies)
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There's no specific mention here of too much Coco-Cola causing diabetes. tinyurl.com/mvvarl
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We use unpasteurised milk straight from the cow, real butter, full strength everything, lots of veg, no junk, litre of wine (between us) at least, per day, and we seem to get on ok. All our friends - especially the French - are on diets, drugs, regimes and so on for cholesterol and whatever. I'll be 60 next month, if I make it, and am lucky enough to have only been under the doctor in 1995 and 1976. I was also lucky enough to have escaped from formal work nearly 10 years ago, so I guess I've had my chances. I feel a bit like the old Prelude, coming up to 100,000 - still game, but who knows?
I do take one cod liver oil capsule for the joints and one vitamin B against insect bites every day though...
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I shall never forget Big Terry (now Dead Terry, alas), smoked roll ups and threw a large glass of Scotch down his gullet most nights,
He had a triple heart bypass op in his 60's and weighed 20 stone,
He had an Aortic Aneurysm for many years and knew it would do for him, eventually.
He carried on smoking and knocking the Scotch back until one morning he felt a pain in his back, he knew his time had come, he phoned me and said Dog, I'm driving myself to Hospital can you pick my car up later for me,
he was gone come the morn = 70 years of GOOD living.
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>> We use unpasteurised milk straight from the cow, ..........
Eugh! Rather you than me. I remember on my granddad's farm in the 1940s seeing what was filtered out of cow's milk before it was cooled and sent to the dairy. There were lumps of blood and all manner of other slimy stuff.
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>> The main problem is I drink too much coca-cola so now have a real risk of
>> getting dieabeties.
It's worse than that. Too much of that could cause problems with your king pin, and your trunnions could sieze solid.
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He's only a lad, Fothers. I don't think his trunnions have descended yet.
My old mum had an aortic aneurism.......if it leaks, you've got 24 hrs. If it bursts....a minute or two. They won't operate on the old folk. Hers leaked at 82, 15 yrs ago. I got her into hospital and we knew the worst...she didn't, but she asked if it was the end. I told her she'd got a chest infection and was going on a drip. It was actually morphine .
We came home during this for a freshen up, only 5 minutes away, and as I walked in the door the ward rang to say she had gone.
I'm convinced they upped the dose when we were out of the way..........I have no complaints if they did. She just slept herself away..nice !
I was so pleased that she'd gone peacefully and with dignity.
Lifelong smoker, BTW.
However, dying is the last thing I intend to do !
Ted
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You were lucky to see her out peacefully Ted. My late father died at 74 of one of those, not signalled. He felt awful, called his sister, was taken to hospital and operated on, dying on the table. Sounded awful actually (we interviewed the surgeon later)... emergency stent didn't work, nothing strong enough to attach it to.
I was out of town and got the message in the afternoon. When I called the hospital he had just died. Not a good moment I can tell you.
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>>However, dying is the last thing I intend to do !<<
Thee and I will live forever then (or til the beer runs out)
Ole Big Terry had the op (stent) in the early hours and it was successful,
but his art gave out and he didn't come around from the anaesthetic = way to go!
Re: the morphine (diamorphine) another m8 had prostate cancer which had spread to his bones,
they finished him off with morphine, euphanasia has been going on in this country for years!
Good thing too (sometimes)
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The key to living in good health and for longer seems to be working forever or atleast until your well past an age you expect to live to. Read about most peopel who pass 110 years old and the common characteristic is that they were working well into their 90's if not past that. This seems to go hand in hand with good health aswell.
I bet if you retire at 65, it doesnt cross your mind that you may have another 50 years to fill. Many dont of course, but ya never know.
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>> The key to living in good health and for longer seems to be working forever
Or its possible that people who work to 90 were exceptionaly healthy in the first place. Genes has a lot to do with it.
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My health dilemma was simple, after I lost Mrs P I lost weight despite having a strong appetite (she would have understood) - I then started not caring what I ate, I drink only a little anyway - but enjoy what I drink......I regained the weight and went up a good half stone and seemed to stop there as I hit the eating/exercise ideal I suppose. I went to see a doctor so I could register with a new practice, I was over weight and felt it (15 stone and 5'11") and increased my waist size to 36 which was uncomfortable. The health check I had there raised the Cholesterol issue and I had and ECG and BP test which were normal so I took it as a warning. Since that visit I've dropped my weight to 14 stone and waist is back to 34" - as Harleyman says I also like riding and want to do so as long as possible - I know eat sensibly, no sweeties, crisps or cakes etc (no puddings :-( ) I feel a lot better and my clothes now fit again, need ot lose another stone and then I'll revisit the cholesterol thing. As I said doesn't occupy my mind all the time.
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>> I'm convinced they upped the dose when we were out of the way....
She may have also known she was dying but it sounds like a nicer way to slip away. My gran went into hospital with pneumonia and she seemed to be doing well. My mum/aunt sent home by her etc.... she had died by the time they got home.
My mother in law as an aortic aneurism and they operate when it gets to 5cm as the risk factors are such that it's worth risking the operation.... she will see the specialist about the operation soon.
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>> Too much of that could cause problems with your king pin, and your trunnions could sieze solid.
No. It's the booze that does for the king-pin, not coca-cola.
Sort of droopy, I'm told.
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I sincerely hope all you health fanatics (and nay sayers) watched the exceedingly good BBC 2 program
"The Victorian Pharmacy" this evening and have stocked up on worm oil, leeches,
and Dr. J Collis browne's Chlorodyne.
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Of course, but it was wimpish. They were more interested in eye of newt and so on than things that actually worked. They even said at the beginning that of course they were going to make everything 'safe'. What the hell use to man or beast is that, where drugs are concerned?
You could buy all sorts of opiates over the counter until well into the last century. Cannabis, which Queen Victoria is supposed to have used for something or other, was well below the radar. It didn't become illegal anywhere in the world until the demented idiot Harry Anslinger persuaded some bunch of peasant American politicians that it was 'dangerous' in the twenties. Since then the damn gringos have exported this completely false idea everywhere, by force and in other ways.
Very disappointing I thought Dog. But I wasn't surprised.
WOMAN! WHERE'S MY HOURLY DIGITALIS AND BUFOTENIN DRAUGHT WITH ADDED JIMSON WEED! HURRY DAMMIT!
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marinated in garlic, skewered and barbequed is the only way I will take my leeches.
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Oh yeah, someone described as 'brave' another person on that programme who agreed to have a leech bite them.
When I was eight we all used to get back from cross-country runs with the damn things clustered round our ankles. Of course you didn't feel a thing, just a faint itch when they got gorged with blood and fell off. If you waited till then, you could splat them satisfyingly between two hard objects, blood in all directions, ho ho, just the thing when you're that age. If you wanted to make them let go, soap or salt both worked, and so did a burning cigarette, but of course one didn't smoke at that age.
'Brave' indeed. The whole world's become a pathetic nursery if you ask me.
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Probably elevated to position of ' Hero ' now..................ArmCo.
Ted
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>>The whole world's become a pathetic nursery if you ask me<<
Even many of 'our troops' are not up to scratch, I hear,
I enjoyed that Victorian pharmacy actually, but then I don't watch a lot of telly these days, especially while its light until 10pm (in the west)
But then I like most victorian paraphernalia, I could actually see myself in living in a victorian house, decorated to the period inc. fixtures & fittings, but with underfloor heating and a 50" Plasma :)
Laudanum was another much used potion Sire, I believe queen Vic was into that as well,
As we've discussed before ~ if 'recreational drugs were legalised and hence controlled, the THC / cannabinoid / opiate etc.., etc. content could be standardised, a lot of puff these days (skunk etc.) is far, far too powerful, I'll never forget once taking a trip (acid) and from its effect I knew it had been laced with amphetamine.
Anyway, getting back to that very interesting program, some of the ingredients that were left out of the 'cures' were I think a good idea, such as Lead.
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A word of encouragement/warning - take it as you will.
When the BSE crisis was at it's zenith I decided that I'd give up eating meat. It wasn't going to be easy though because I loved my steaks, stews, stroganoff (I'm an expert) and bacon sarnies.
Fortunately, the trauma would be reduced because Mrs. K. has been a non meat-eater since her teens. She already had a good collection of seafood recipes that I enjoyed.
When I told her that I was giving up meat she gained an enthusiasm for "good diet" and decided that it would be a good idea to reduce our fat intake as well.
Everything went well for a couple of weeks eating fish poached in white wine and stuffed peppers etc. but in the third week it had some unexpected side effects.
I turned into the proverbial butchers dog. 24hr arousal.
I'm pretty sure that my body had decided that "You're gonna die, you need to procreate now!".
Kevin...
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>>I turned into the proverbial butchers dog. 24hr arousal.<<
Fish ~ Oysters ~ Zinc = Casanova ;-)
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That Dr Collis Brown's Mixture was good stuff - reminded me that until a few years ago you could still buy old fashioned cough mixture with tincture of opium in it from many local old-fashioned chemist shops. I forgot that I have the dregs of the last bottle of Fudge's Honey Syrup (known locally as Fudge's Firewater) from Bridport in the bathroom cupboard. Marvellous stuff - just a tiny spoonful if you feel under the weather and it's like rocket fuel.
Now banned, of course, so you are left with the choice of sugar-soaked mass produced stuff. When I bought my last bottle I had to sign the poison book.
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VictoryV lozenges - dosed with ether and chloroform originally. Some substitute used for some time now: thats why there's no real "bite" to them. Or so the factory in Nelson informed me.
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>>That Dr Collis Brown's Mixture was good stuff<<
Yeah, I used to use that in the 60's when we were making luv, not war,
another one was Dimeril cough linctus,
I was searching last night for Lea & Perrins sauce which is still going strong AND 'Made in England',
I also found Victory V lozenges, Sunlight & Lifebouy soap, Knights Castile, Wrights coal tar, Carbolic soap, and
(wait for it, wait for it) Izal toilet paper :)
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Its all about finding the right balance and being sensible .
I read this thread with interest - I'm now just under 17 stone currently and at 6' 1" I am considered borderline obese according to the chart in my local chemists.
Up until 10 years ago I was fit as a butchers dog , 14 stone and in the gym for at least an hour every day and eating 'sensibly' but since then let myself go. Eating out and good food are my greatest pleasure ( well almost ) these days.
At the age of 61 I still have never been in a hospital for any overnight stay due to an illness , I do not care about all the health fads and eating correctly. I want to enjoy my life. But on a health check earlier this year my doctor found my blood pressure to be running at 200 over 100 and I got a very severe ticking off .. and tablets which I will have to take for the rest of my life.
I now try to be sensible .The hypertension is controlled, I do take multivitamins, echinacea and antihistamine tablets every day in addition to the blood pressure tablets and try to make the gym a couple of times a week...
Having said that ,in my lunch box today I have an apple , a banana and .... errr two pork pies........
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>>,in my lunch box today I have an apple , a banana and .... errr two pork pies<<
Eat the pork and bin the pastry copter :)
17 stone is too much IMO, reduce carbs to shift it, especially 'simple' carbs,
but then again there is an article in Mike's favourite red top today (The Sun) about a woman who beat breast cancer and was driving home to tell her husband, but was killed in a car crash (how sad)
Live for The Now!
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That was in our local town, and she was only taking a diversion because some useless vandals had set alight to our beautiful old church.
Pat
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>>That was in our local town<<
Yes, I noticed it was over 'your way' Pat, quite tragic!
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They are only small snack pies Dog......not too bad.... and you never know when the grim reaper is going to strike anyway.
The story today of the lady with Cancer is eerily familiar to me. One of my lady employees had suffered from breast cancer but came through it.
Valentines Day four years ago she was in my office in a meeting with a supplier to discuss matters prior to my planned visit to the Middle East two days later .
The supplier had just lost his wife to cancer and was sympathetically told by my lady employee how she had been through it and how lucky she felt to have survived .......
The next day was frosty and icy, on her way to work she found she had forgotten her glasses and turned the car round to go back home but never made it....the car hit a patch of ice and went into a tree.
She was 57.
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>>but never made it....the car hit a patch of ice and went into a tree. <<
No easy answer really, is there ... my dad dies at 54, mu mum lives until 88,
wife's mum dies at 45, wife's dad still with us at 86.
I always give a glance to the crem chimney while walking my dog, but ~ life goes on, until.
I've never forgotten the inscription on the church in St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall ...
"Here rest the sleeping dead, and too I,
when yonder dial strikes the hour, must we,
look around in orderly array,
see how the buried host await the judgement day,
stranger, in peace pursue thine onward road,
but NEVER forget thy last and long abode.
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Well I've eaten the pork pies - very tasty , the apple and banana went down a treat.....
BTW , Did I forget to mention the two packs of Revels I bought on special offer me old Canine mate ?............ I like the orange centres you see - and you need energy in my job.........and they take away the lard taste in your mouth from the pies........
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Keep taking the pills, I find the orange & white ones the best :D
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Interesting thread to drop into.
As some of you know, I have been away from the room for a while, living in a hostel while my other half attention seeks, practising 'hanging on by a thread' as his new career move, in Cardiac Intensive Care - this is our twelfth week.
60, 14 stone 2 and 6'2" ish for those wanting numbers. Gave up smoking 8 years ago, producer and consumer of excellent food and enjoyed the odd glass of good wine. Exercise limited due to spinal injury. Insulin dependent diabetic.
For the several diabetics in the room - you do not feel heart attacks in the normal way. He hurt his rib and got painkillers from the chemist - except it was a massive heart attack.
Quality of life becomes a totally different concept when you are given choices that have to be made now, rather than looking at it from a healthy view point.
Look after your hearts chaps - they control everything. If your heart is weak, then your kidneys and liver will struggle as will your lungs. General weakness putting you in a wheelchair. Not pumping enough blood round means lack of circulation to various parts - like feet and stomach and you really do not want to know the consequences.
Please joke on, but take it a little seriously too. We have laughed and smiled through the past few months, as my husband would do when well, but I would not like anyone to have this experience.
Not a plea for a pile of sympathy - but a few prayers would be welcome over the projected 3-6 months he will still be critical in intensive care.
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As an confirmed agnostic I pray to no god, maybe lust at the odd craven idol or two tho.
It goes without saying you have all the best wishes of the room perching on your shoulder. With a humour like yours (attention seeking - LOL) I think you will both pull through.
Have you coverted me to a life of abstinence? I'll ponder that over a glass or two of port tonight.
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My very best wishes to you both.
Clk Sec
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Zero, I will join you with your glass or two of port. A few bottles of merlot, rioja and syrah have eased life since April.
Good things? I believe you had an election? a lot of football and even tennis?
Thank you for the best wishes. I fear the next few weeks are going to be rather trying.
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...I believe you had an election?....
I was going to say I doubt he's had one of those in years, then I realised it wasn't a typo.
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I've been good today, I declined the offer of a drunken night as I just cannot do this two nights getting drunk in a row thing any more. I will still go out tomorrow night though.
My late grand mother who died earlier this year had major circulation problems for the past 25 years of her life. A lot of it was caused by smoking. She died aged 89.
Her husband (my Grandpa) will be 91 if he makes it till December and he smoked most of his life but is still quite healthy. He cannot walk any more due to bad hips but he is still with it.
My other grandma will be 81 in October and she is still very much with it, she needs lifts everywhere but she can manage her three bedroom house without any help and is fairly healthy apart from heart problems and diabetees with the tablets she copes very well. The reason she is so healthy is she worked full time as a manager until she was 65 and suffered a massive heart attack. After this she changed her diet and is now very careful what she eats. Her eldest son died aged 55 of a heart attack when at work :(.
My grandad died aged 78 of cancer after an operation went wrong, his love of red meat and the ocassional beer probably contributed to it :(. He was a wonderful man who had a cheeky nature. When he was ill at house bound he learnt how to use the internet aged 77 despite never using a computer before so he could surf the net. A week after first switching the computer on he was placing online bets and looking at hotels he and my grandma could stay in when he recovered. Sadly he never did.
Despite all that I still don't eat as well as I should. I suspect I will probably have a heart attack before I am 50 but that is not just because of my diet it is because of the way I am. My grandma nearly died in 1994 and my uncle did die in 2005 so I know how serious heart trouble can be, the problem is I know how much I love my fish and chips too.
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Dee - My best wishes go to you and your husband , believe me I have been in your position.
When my Brother in Law collapsed with a heart attack at a dinner dance,if it had not been for a family friend who is a nurse who recognised the symptoms he would probably have died.....in fact I believe he did 'die ' in A & E and was resuscitated.
Three years ago my sister ( who lived with us during treatment ) went in 6 months from thinking she was clear of cancer to death at the age of 64......my wife , brother in law and myself all knew she was going to die and quite frankly I prayed that she would die sooner rather than later ......and without pain. it still makes me mad at the injustice of such a disease and I do everything I can to raise money for the Royal Marsden and the local cancer hospices.
Anyway enough of these morbid thoughts - I still have an ambition to die at 100 years old by a shot in the back from a jealous husband.......and I have not touched the second pack of Revels yet.......
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Isnt it funny how some people dodge every bullet fired at them despite standing at point blank range?
Case in point, my fathers ex-business partner's mother. She drank every day, maybe half a bottle every day. She smoked 60 a day from her teens. She ate as she liked, never exercised and yet somehow, by the grace of God, she managed to live to a healthy 98 having never spent a day in hospital. She died in her sleep. You have to believe that genetics plays a part somewhere or this kind of thing wouldnt be possible. It does amuse though!
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The depressing thing is it dosn't matter how unhealthy or healthy we are, any one of us could drop dead at any minute. My friend has two cousins who have died already, both under 40. One was stabbed and the other had cancer.
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>>, any one of us could drop dead at any minute<<
The answer, surely then, is not to concern ourselves with that which we know not ~when?
The real reason I try to stay reasonably healthy is because I want to die healthy, and not linger.
If I could die tonight, I would be the happiest man alive :)
But while I'm here I use my extensive knowledge of health and wellness to advantage, while I can.
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>> The depressing thing is it dosn't matter how unhealthy or healthy we are, any one
>> of us could drop dead at any minute.
I was once given 24 hours to live, not that I knew that, as I was sedated in a hospital bed.
25 years later, and nearly in my 50's I feel as fit as I ever have, only yesterday I walked 2 miles just for the hell of it.
My feelings are mixed - on the one hand I think when your time is up, its up, and there is nothing you (or anyone else) can do about it.
On the other hand, I feel very lucky to still be here, to have fathered my children, and enjoyed life, a life I so easily could have missed out on.
I have basically spent the last 25 years being thankful for each day, and am hoping for at least another 25 years....
If I don't manage that, then I hope my family and friends look back at the time we did have, and not dwell to much on the fact my time came before we were all ready for it...
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Very true stu- After diagnosis with hypertension my doctor made sure I had a blood test and sugar levels checked for diabetes. All was clear .
I had a chat with the doctor when the results came through and I had what I considered a high cholesterol level but when I queried it she pointed out that what I had was good rather than bad cholesterol and it was basically down to my genes .
I happened to mention to her that I was a bit worried because I could sometimes feel and hear my heart beating when in bed ......
Her response creased me up ' The time to worry is when you cannot hear or feel a heartbeat.'....
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Apparently, careful study (a meta analysis of research into lifestyle and longevity) shows that:
1. Doing everything right (in terms of blood pressure, booze, fags, cholesterol, obesity, diet, exercise and occupation) makes a total difference of about 4 years to your lifespan.
2. One of the best predictors of how long you'll live is: how good you feel and how long you expect to live.
This is from an excellent book - 'Dance With Chance' - which looks at this subject in some detail (as well as other interesting topics such as whether we can predict the stock market performance).
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Best wishes, Dee. hope all goes well for both of you.
I'm diabetic and I had an MI 16 yrs ago. I agree, it was a bit different, my symptoms were mainly an aching inc the lower back that felt like trapped wind somewhere.
I passed out on the trolley on the way to Coronary Care.
It all put life into perspective.........I couldn't give a tuppeny trump about anything trivial now.
Ted
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St Just in Roseland jogged a vibe in me brain, Dog.
Railway based, of course. There lies buried Charles Bowen-Cooke, Chief Mechanical Engineer of the London & North Western Railway, ( Euston and Crewe )
Died whilst on holiday...about 1919.
I thought you ought to know that.
Ted
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>>St Just in Roseland jogged a vibe in me brain, Dog.<<
I've warned you about them there pasties Teddy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bowen_Cooke
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See !....Me memory's not gone yet...in spite of the beer !
Ted
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Beer AND paracetomol?
No telling what you'll be getting up to tonight:)
Pat
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>>See !....Me memory's not gone yet...in spite of the beer !<<
Must be all the B vits + chromium in that there brewers yeast (hic!)
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All I am having tonight is brocoli and carrots and a bit of cheese. I shall have to do drink a lot of beer tomorrow night to compensate!
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>> All I am having tonight is brocoli and carrots and a bit of cheese.
Turning into a real rodent then, Ratty ?
I just had a pint of Landlord tonight and no more paracetamol...the pain's largely gone and I have my 9 night-time tablets and 2 injections to look forward to, having been put on a new injection yesterday.
Took 3 hours to finish the pint, so wasn't going mad tonight.
Don't know if I'll sleep well....probably spend half the night thrutching about trying to get comfortable.
Might get a sharp knife out and go and prowl the red light district !
Ted
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Again?
I shall have to practise my wearside jack impersonation
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Its moved a bit further east now Ted, well at least that is what one of my mates tells me.
You will be the only person sticking to the speed limit in that part of Manchester so even if you drive through it minding your own business you will still get pulled for curbing.
I have sometimes been taking some heyfever tablets to knock me out at night, but I do try and avoid them if I can. It does take me hours to get to sleep but at least I am comfortable.
Really not looking forward to getting old :(
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Rattle, your a real glass half empty kinda guy
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>>Really not looking forward to getting old :(<<
But ... The alternative isn't much fun, I hear.
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But ... The alternative isn't much fun, I hear.
E-mails, phone calls and C4P postings tend to drop off a bit.
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>>E-mails, phone calls and C4P postings tend to drop off a bit.<<
And ya toenails stop growing, I'm told.
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>> half the night thrutching about trying to get comfortable.
Amazing Ted.
I always thought that word was an invention of my late lamented (but a bit demented) friend from Cheshire, a long-time Notting Hill comrade in the old days. He had a story in Manchester/Cheshire dialect about some food in a foreign country that ended:
'... and it were still thrutching about on t'plate!'
You have given me a sentimental moment. Thank you.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Fri 16 Jul 10 at 23:39
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You're very welcome, ArmCo.
Well, the thrutching's got the better of me so I've got up and switched on to play a few games of Klondyke on the box.
Me eye's not too bad but it's the restless leg that's hit me....an hour should see things ok there.
As we say up in't Noorth...There's nobbut wrong what wi' meither and clutterbucks !
Ted
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((having been put on a new injection yesterday.))
Is that the Byetta Teddy?
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Are silence of the cams and rattle and smoke one and the same person?
If so, which one is the original?
Has anyone seen both of them in the same room at the same time?
No?
I thought not!
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Why has anyone changed their forum name?
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I'm not paranoid, they really are coming to get me:)
Pat
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>> Why has anyone changed their forum name?
Because I upset everyone in the other place, so I changed my name and now I am nice about everyone and everything so everyone loves me now because no one knows its me friom the old place.
Last edited by: Zero on Sat 17 Jul 10 at 09:39
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Well, I preferred your other ego:0
Pat
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I had an old friend who was an undertaker - a cheerful chap though.
I always remember chatting with him as he screwed down my mother's coffin - she died from cancer, aged just 57, after being saved once by the early days of 'deep ray' treatment 15 years before that.
'Life's nothing but a lottery, Mike', he said.
I don't think there's much more to say, really.
ps: I know another undertaker who is a children's party magician in his spare time...
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I see a great deal of violent death in my job. I firmly believe that when it's your time, it's your time.
Having said that, I don't drink too much, don't smoke and try and keep myself relatively healthy. Being the wrong side of 40, I realised I was doing the ooohs and arghhhs as I get in and out of a chair. The horror that I had become my dad. I can still outrun my 11 year old though, much to his emabrrasment.
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>> I see a great deal of violent death in my job. I firmly believe that
>> when it's your time, it's your time.
No doubt you have helped people climb out from what should have been a death scene, and seen corpses in a relatively inocuous situation. I have been involved in a car accident, that had it been microseconds later could have resulted in death rather than injury.
Like you I am firmly of the belief that the day you are ordered off the production line, your day of scrapage is recorded in your log book. Some dont even make it onto the road (like my would have been sibling) others rack up many miles. Sure some basic maintenance and skillfull driving ensures you dont have a demise earlier than your end date, but at the end of the day you cant cheat your day of destiny.
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We both just live in the same part of Manchester :). I really am too old to start making alto egos and I am sure Ted is far too busy.
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Byetta it is...Doggydoos !
Ted
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>>Byetta it is...Doggydoos !<<
Just be careful then TeddyBoy, til the ole bod gets used to it, I'm not trying to teach you to suck eggz, or anyfink.
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Yeah, had a 3 hour seminar on it last week. Four of us, A uniped, retired, who's restoring an MGBGT, nice guy. An Asian guy, Amir, who lives about 250 yds from me and a big fat lad, from nearby. All a good laugh.
The two latter ones hadn't injected before so MGB man and me scared the cack out of them with tales of the needle !
Plenty learnt from a nice lady expert who went through it all very comprehensively.
I'll be institutionalised by the end of the month if this goes on !
Ted
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It's amazing just how many different types of insulin there are, my little mate (21) has been on the needle since he was 3 (poor sod) and he kept getting bad hypo's after more than a few sherbets, so I suggested the Lantus insulin which is a once a day jobbie in conjunction with the short acting types and he's been ok (more or less) since then.
Blood sugar levels are soooooooo important, and many, many diabetics are less than mindful, it seems.
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