SWM was complaining last night about ' All the stuff I've recorded but hadn't got round to watching '
I checked later and found about 6 hours out of 60 used were mine. I think she sees the thing as exclusively for her use. Anyway, I deleted some of mine and as I did so, I saw two pages of recorded progs disappear into the ether. I spent the night in terror, looking forward to a breakfast of cold shoulder.
It never came..........she said it had happened to her previously but she'd not bothered to mention it. Now, it has happened before that and I rang the support people who talked me through how to retrieve the lost recordings successfully.
So, an hour or so ago I rang them with pen and paper in hand to jot the instructions down for the future. After a couple of minutes of music the operator came back with ' Sorry, it can't be done, we have no system for that ' I told him it'd been done in the past and he put me on hold while he spoke to a colleague. 2 minutes, came back with the same news. Shame 'cos one of my programmes went with her lot.
Are there any V+ box users who've had this happen and know if retrieval is actually possible. I'm off the hook with SWM but I'd like to see my prog. Most of my stuff was Portillos, which will be on again sometime.
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If you're after recent Michael Portillo railway journeys, is there not a catch up/on-demand section for iPlayer?
At the moment on iPlayer there seems to be:
Great Continental Railway Journeys Series 1 - London to Monte Carlo Parts 1 & 2
Series 6, episodes 3,4,5 and 20.
There's other rail related programmes too when you look.
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No idea if this corresponds to how a V+ works today. I've not had Virgin Media since December 2009.
Click "My Shows" on the remote --> go right down to the bottom of the list to "Recently Deleted" and you can restore from there.
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I found that on the web last night Rob. Trouble is, there's no 'My shows ' on the remote.
The Portillos will come again. Not the Continentals. I set the series to record originally so they may just record automatically. The last British series did.
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I can download the two continentals I list above if they are of interest. And send on a disk to you.
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Like Ted, we have a straight old fashioned V+ box. That "my shows "thing is for a TiVo.
I too have accidentally deleted something in the past, but there is no mechanism I discovered for retrieval on a straight V+. Not ever had the box do as Ted describes though and mass delete.
As an aside we were offered a TiVo free at the last round of negotiation to get a better deal, but I refused it, to the telesales person's apparent surprise. It doesn't do a couple of things I use, and it does do a load of things I don't want.
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I can't think what TiVo doesn't do that V+ does. One thing used to be reminders but they aren't required with TiVo (and I believe are now there anyway). But TiVo has so many more features, not just exotic stuff no-one uses.
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As a rule, when you delete stuff from a computer system, and a PVR will be one, you delete the entry in the file list that says where things are. So if you've not recorded over them, and can find them, that is how a recovery technique/program will work.
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>> So if you've not recorded over them, and can find them, that is how a recovery
>> technique/program will work.
But if the interface to the underlying OS for a V+ box does not have an undelete function.... You're stuck.
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Thanks for the offer Rob. I worded my last post badly...I've seen the Continentals, thanks.
It's the latest round of London, Hull, to the North east and so on that I've lost, although I watched a few of them before the bug struck. They'll be on again, I'm sure.
The one I really wanted was a doc on Trams. IPlayer is a possible option but I don't know what channel it was on or the date. It had been in the V+ for some time.
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Thanks Smokie...It was the BBC one so I've bookmarked it and I'll watch it after the footy tomorrow.
Much appreciated.
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Well, it happened again on Monday. A chunk of stuff recorded just went...fortunately I had nothing on apart from one Barging round Britain...a bit like a soggy Portillo ! It also semi crashed last night and SWM couldn't get a lot of the channels. Just a couple of minutes from kick-off which I was watching upstairs. I told her how to re-boot it and all was well......phew !
Tuesday I rang Virgin and let them talk me into a TIVO box........to be delivered on Friday.
It won't burn to DVD but I rarely did anyway...just the occasional film for the grandbrats.
You can retrieve though which will be more useful.
Anyone here with one give me any pros and cons before it comes ?
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I've had TiVo for about 3 years now Ted. Didn't have V+ before, so nothing to compare with, but its great. I like that it doesn't forget a series link ( unless you want it to) ie: if a new run of something you have recorded previously starts it records it for you, without asking. And you can get YouTube onto your TV through it - Zeros train films look better on a 40 inch screen!
Only cons I can think of: it uses quite a bit of juice in standby; it takes ages to boot up from cold, after a power cut for instance.
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We did that change about a year ago. To be honest at first we hated it and wanted the V+ back as it was a little more intuitive and also displayed the channel number whereas the Tivo is just a box with a few red and green lights. The other thing we struggled with was the lack of a 'back' button but you work it out after a while. However now we have got used to it - it is far more capable unit but you will need to learn how to use it.
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The two things that put me off changing to Tivo from V+ are mentioned in this thread - the ability to simultaneously record out a DVD whilst watching something else, which I use a fair bit, and "having to learn how to use it". I already know how to get my TV to show me something - I don't really want to learn a whole new way of doing it just to get to see the same something.
The clever stuff - recording what it thinks you would like automatically, picking up new series - doesn't really interest me.
On a minor technical, for sound the V+ box has optical out directly, which I use to feed my amp. I think the Tivo doesn't have that? Which would mean yet more faffing about with the existing cabling to get back to where I already am somehow.
And (only from reading forums) I understand the picture on standard definition channels isn't so good on Tivo as V+ too?
Not knocking it, I'm sure it's lovely, but probably it's not for simple souls like me until forced.
Last edited by: Crankcase on Thu 26 Feb 15 at 11:13
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>> The two things that put me off changing to Tivo from V+ are mentioned in
>> this thread - the ability to simultaneously record out a DVD whilst watching something else,
>> which I use a fair bit,
I really really can't see the need to burn a CD, why would you need to do that?
>>and "having to learn how to use it". I
Thats the excuse my mother gives. You are, in effect, saying I can't cope with progress anymore, I am going to give up here and now and play dead.
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DVD, not CD. So I can then import the programme into my video library via the PC, and watch it later. It's only like keeping videotapes forever. Probably highly illegal.
Alas, there's no way of making the V+ (or Tivo) talk to my home network and cut out the "burn to DVD then rip it on a PC then put it into XBMC" operations.
As to your second point, yes of course. Always have been very reluctant with progress/change, so no surprises there.
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As a long-term TiVo user, including the old Series 1 way before Virgin adopted it, I have to say it is a fine piece of kit. For me the single most significant drawback of the Virgin implementation is not having any means of backing up programmes and settings, to enable recovery in the event of catastrophic failure of the box ( - Virgin tend to replace rather than try to fix...).
Settings in particular would be be easy for them to deal with - just shoot them up the line to a server overnight. The file is tiny, I remember that from when I used to be able to do the same on the Series 1. It's really very tedious to re-enter your Season passes, and all the learning the machine has done about your viewing habits has to be restarted.
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OK...thanks all. Seems a bit of re-learning will be needed....I'll leave most of that to the brains of the family. After all, she was a teacher.
The only reason we burnt to a DVD was for the grandchildren when a good kiddie film came on and SWM would take it to them on her next visit so they could keep it at home. I admit to having a few early Portillos recorded to DVD..mainly when I was experimenting.
I have a Funai VHS/DVD player/recorder by the PC which will record and burn from my monitor/TV. I can always use that....but, of course, I'd need to be there at the time.
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My TiVo does talk to my home network via a cable to the router. Enables control of TiVo from my tablet, and being able to cross connect YouTube accounts.
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Is it DLNA compliant tho?
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I've connected mine and can see it on the network, hadn't tried much with it though apart from connecting to the TiVo upstairs, which was pretty naff when I tried it as for some reason you can't watch recordings from BBC1,2 & the ITVs from the other box.
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Yeah, you can connect TiVo to your home network, but you can't get the recordings off. Not in the UK anyway.
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Virgin+ box. - rtj70
