Sometimes one realises that its nice to live in countries without significant troubles in the scheme of things....
www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27298614
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I strongly suspect that they will end up in the sights of US and UK special forces...
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I dread to think what those poor little sods are going through.
I'd have no problem if our military kicked ass in that department.
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>> I dread to think what those poor little sods are going through.
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>> I'd have no problem if our military kicked ass in that department.
I find myself wanting to give WP a green thumb.
Should I be worried?
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Tue 6 May 14 at 18:59
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>> I find myself wanting to give WP a green thumb.
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>> Should I be worried?
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Yes. I've turned AC, he even reads the Telegraph now, you're next.
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>> he even reads the Telegraph now, you're next.
Been reading it (alongside Le Monde among others) since you were in short pants or even a babygro Wp, no offence of course, just keeping up with the mainstream media discourse...
'Turned' indeed! Tsk!
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>> Been reading it (alongside Le Monde among others) since you were in short pants or
>> even a babygro Wp, no offence of course, just keeping up with the mainstream media
>> discourse...
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>> 'Turned' indeed! Tsk!
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Excellent. The desired effect.
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>> Been reading it (alongside Le Monde among others) since you were in short pants
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You mean The Morning Post, I think, if you are that old?
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>>I'd have no problem if our military kicked ass in that department.
Oh absolutely, but who to kick? That's the problem. Its not good vs bad, its bad vs bad vs some other bad vs another bad vs different bad etc.
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""God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions," he said."
Quite - and which god would that be? Ah - that one!
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>> ""God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out
>> his instructions," he said."
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I wonder how he is proposing to pass on the money he gets from the sale to his god? Because I'm sure he wasn't planning to spend the money on guns or drugs.
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>> Quite - and which god would that be? Ah - that one!
You mean the Islamic one?
The same one as directins fundamentalist Christians and Jews
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"The same one as directins fundamentalist Christians and Jews"
Very probably.
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Boko Haram are frightful backwoods brigands of little consequence, darkest Africa so to speak. But the fact that these toerags can run about freely inside Nigeria's frontiers is significant.
Nigeria has money and men. It's pretty disgraceful that it can't maintain security in its Borno province by the traditional means of extreme well-directed violence. What use is a military regime that can't do that? I'm ashamed of it.
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The details of this horrific action by the terrorists group were first revealed three weeks ago.
Suddenly the rest of the world wakes up - almost certainly far too late to do anything practical in finding these young girls.
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If you read carefully you will see that this is a second action, distinct from the one 3 weeks ago.
Mind you, its been going on for a year or two.
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European nations used to have the capability to send in shock "rescue missions" in circimstances like this. True, usually to rescue their own nationals.
Britain, but more notability France, Belgium and Israel, had some successes.
Has the US lost its nerve for such operations after the Carter helicopter fiasco in Iran?
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The Septics have now sent experts! So that'll be alright then.
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>> Has the US lost its nerve for such operations after the Carter helicopter fiasco in
>> Iran?
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They have a President who doesn't see that side of US foreign policy as being all that important.
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>> They have a President who doesn't see that side of US foreign policy as being
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Intervention in Nigeria is not, however high the motive, risk free.
Any collateral damage to innocent people, and in north of country they're likely to me Muslims, will deliver a strong propaganda card to the extremists. It's also a diverse Federal Republic with its own dynamics and a complex ethnic mix in which foreign involvement may have unintended perceptions and consequences.
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>> Intervention in Nigeria is not, however high the motive, risk free.
Intervention is never usually risk free.
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>> Any collateral damage to innocent people, and in north of country they're likely to me
>> Muslims, will deliver a strong propaganda card to the extremists.
A necessary risk. Some people in life only ever respect strength.
It's also a diverse Federal
>> Republic with its own dynamics and a complex ethnic mix in which foreign involvement may
>> have unintended perceptions and consequences.
If the Nigerian Govt invited Europe or the US in to help, it would deflect some of the stick..and the rest of it would have to be endured.
If nothing is done, they'll keep going and get more brave.
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>> What use is a military regime that can't do that? I'm ashamed of it.
That whole post is ill-considered, written in haste and hopelessly optimistic.
Nigeria's regime hasn't been 'military' for years, although State governors tend to be generals or high-ranking policemen, and security reposes ultimately on the army. It has to be admitted though that in the past neither the police nor the army have displayed consistent discipline and members of the security forces have often committed exactions against ordinary citizens.
There are elite units and honest officers and men. But they are few perhaps and most likely to be posted to ensure security for the government and senior politicians. Unleashed in Borno, ordinary troops might behave not very differently from the Boko Haram savages.
Western governments might be able to provide satellite or drone imagery. It's hard to see what else they can usefully achieve.
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>> >> What use is a military regime that can't do that? I'm ashamed of it.
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>> That whole post is ill-considered, written in haste and hopelessly optimistic.
Are you arguing with yourself now?..;-)
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I often do. But I prefer the term 'correcting'.
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AC: you sound like Martin Dent. Were you once a District Officer in Nigeria?
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>> Were you once a District Officer in Nigeria?
Good God no. I'm a poacher not a gamekeeper.
I knew a person in African commercial journalism who had been a district officer or commissioner or some such in Nigeria. He was a boring man and lost my sympathy by saying how he had enjoyed burning cannabis confiscated from the natives. Damn carphound.
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>> he had enjoyed burning cannabis confiscated from the natives. Damn carphound.
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I bet he did. Any giggling fits or munchies reported?
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>> Any giggling fits or munchies reported?
I asked, but he denied noticing anything like that. He did say his native policemen seemed very enthusiastic and genial though as they clustered round stoking the flames.
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Cartoon this week in the Eye made me laugh.
Boko Haram - Haven't done much since 'Whiter shade of pale....'
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>> Cartoon this week in the Eye made me laugh.
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>> Boko Haram - Haven't done much since 'Whiter shade of pale....'
I must not titter
I must not titter
etc etc
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You'd think the BBC would've chosen a reporter with a more appropriate name than this
m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27370041
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Whilst reading this thread some very low flying Chinooks just passed over in upper Ribblesdale.
None for several months and these sounded like they were trying to get down my chimney. Pretty exciting to be flying so low at night
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Boko Haram - R.P.
