news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6057734.stm
Maybe the time has come for fencing off appropriate parts of the country?
What counties head the list?
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>> Maybe the time has come for fencing off appropriate parts of the country?
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The Romans tried something similar 2000 years ago and see how well that turned out... ;-)
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good lord, that article is 8 years old.
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>> that article is 8 years old
... but still fresh as on the day it was wittered.
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>> the "underclass" humans who would have evolved into dim-witted, ugly, squat goblin-like creatures.
I think I might have met one of those...in a South London night club, circa 1988
Last edited by: Westpig on Wed 9 Apr 14 at 18:33
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>> >> that article is 8 years old
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>> ... but still fresh as on the day it was wittered.
Needs updating though. Only 99,992 years away now.
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>> good lord, that article is 8 years old.
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good spot, but why has it suddenly appeared in th BBC 'most read' list?
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I saw a bit of 'The Jeremy Kyle Show' the other day.
I reckon the split started years ago.
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The piece may only have been written eight years ago but it is mid-Victorian scientistic balderdash. Utter, utter garbage.
Evidently some here want it to be true in some way. It isn't.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Wed 9 Apr 14 at 21:02
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>> The piece may only have been written eight years ago but it is mid-Victorian scientistic
>> balderdash.
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For a change to happen there has to be
a) a normal variation in characteristics that can be inherited
b) an advantage in one set of characteristics over another
c) a mechanism for selective breeding based on those characteristics.
I don't see why that could not happen in humans?
We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?
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>> We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?
They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history, the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge. Victorian genetics, in its infancy, saw white people of European descent as the physical and intellectual pinnacle of human evolution, above Asians who were above Africans who were above, er, apes.
You can see why they wanted it to be like that, and why the dimmer ones believed it, but it was still a load of utter crap.
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>> >> We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?
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>> They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history,
>> the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge.
>> Victorian genetics, in its infancy, saw white people of European descent as the physical and
>> intellectual pinnacle of human evolution, above Asians who were above Africans who were above, er,
>> apes.
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>> You can see why they wanted it to be like that, and why the dimmer
>> ones believed it, but it was still a load of utter crap.
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Hmm...if you look at results...
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>> Hmm...if you look at results...
What results? The results of what?
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"They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history, the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge."
It is not so long ago - current estimate is 35,000 years, that we shared the world with another species of humans, the Neanderthals, whom we seem to have wiped out or played a part in so doing.
For another species of humans to emerge in the future I can see two scenarios. First artificial selection via genetic engineering. After a number of generations of genetic manipulation there could start to become a distinctive new "type". If that type of humans favoured interbreeding with one another rather than the rest of humanity, perhaps because they were more intelligent, a new species cold eventually emerge.
The second scenario is if we ventures into space and colonies were set up on another planet. The two communities of humanity would then tend to diverge with natural selection on the settled planet favouring those features that favoured the new environment. For example a planet with higher gravity would favour a stocky more muscular body build
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>> The two communities of humanity would then tend to diverge with natural selection
>> on the settled planet favouring those features that favoured the new environment. For example a
>> planet with higher gravity would favour a stocky more muscular body build
But that's the 'problem' - modern medicine means natural selection doesn't really come into it.
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We've got two species now.
Us and chavs.
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>> Happens quite regularly.
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Thank heavens for that, thought it was just me.
It's a damn nuisance though and sloppy website management.
Last edited by: Harleyman on Thu 10 Apr 14 at 00:56
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Current top story - pope to resign. From Feb last year. Bug, or did something suddenly trigger interest in the pope?
Last edited by: Focusless on Thu 10 Apr 14 at 09:05
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