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Thread Author: sherlock47 Replies: 18

 Some of us thought it was already happening... - sherlock47
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6057734.stm


Maybe the time has come for fencing off appropriate parts of the country?

What counties head the list?
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Fursty Ferret
>> Maybe the time has come for fencing off appropriate parts of the country?
>>

The Romans tried something similar 2000 years ago and see how well that turned out... ;-)
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Zero
good lord, that article is 8 years old.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Armel Coussine
>> that article is 8 years old

... but still fresh as on the day it was wittered.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Westpig
>> the "underclass" humans who would have evolved into dim-witted, ugly, squat goblin-like creatures.


I think I might have met one of those...in a South London night club, circa 1988
Last edited by: Westpig on Wed 9 Apr 14 at 18:33
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - CGNorwich
>> >> that article is 8 years old
>>
>> ... but still fresh as on the day it was wittered.


Needs updating though. Only 99,992 years away now.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - sherlock47
>> good lord, that article is 8 years old.
>>


good spot, but why has it suddenly appeared in th BBC 'most read' list?
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - CGNorwich
Happens quite regularly.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - bathtub tom
I saw a bit of 'The Jeremy Kyle Show' the other day.

I reckon the split started years ago.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Armel Coussine
The piece may only have been written eight years ago but it is mid-Victorian scientistic balderdash. Utter, utter garbage.

Evidently some here want it to be true in some way. It isn't.
Last edited by: Armel Coussine on Wed 9 Apr 14 at 21:02
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Cliff Pope
>> The piece may only have been written eight years ago but it is mid-Victorian scientistic
>> balderdash.
>>

For a change to happen there has to be

a) a normal variation in characteristics that can be inherited
b) an advantage in one set of characteristics over another
c) a mechanism for selective breeding based on those characteristics.

I don't see why that could not happen in humans?

We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Armel Coussine
>> We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?

They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history, the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge. Victorian genetics, in its infancy, saw white people of European descent as the physical and intellectual pinnacle of human evolution, above Asians who were above Africans who were above, er, apes.

You can see why they wanted it to be like that, and why the dimmer ones believed it, but it was still a load of utter crap.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - madf
>> >> We don't deny that certain handicaps can be inherited - why not advantages?
>>
>> They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history,
>> the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge.
>> Victorian genetics, in its infancy, saw white people of European descent as the physical and
>> intellectual pinnacle of human evolution, above Asians who were above Africans who were above, er,
>> apes.
>>
>> You can see why they wanted it to be like that, and why the dimmer
>> ones believed it, but it was still a load of utter crap.
>>

Hmm...if you look at results...
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Armel Coussine

>> Hmm...if you look at results...

What results? The results of what?
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - CGNorwich
"They can of course. But in the hundreds of thousands of years of human history, the 'gene map' of humanity has become too scrambled to enable distinct sub-species to emerge."

It is not so long ago - current estimate is 35,000 years, that we shared the world with another species of humans, the Neanderthals, whom we seem to have wiped out or played a part in so doing.

For another species of humans to emerge in the future I can see two scenarios. First artificial selection via genetic engineering. After a number of generations of genetic manipulation there could start to become a distinctive new "type". If that type of humans favoured interbreeding with one another rather than the rest of humanity, perhaps because they were more intelligent, a new species cold eventually emerge.


The second scenario is if we ventures into space and colonies were set up on another planet. The two communities of humanity would then tend to diverge with natural selection on the settled planet favouring those features that favoured the new environment. For example a planet with higher gravity would favour a stocky more muscular body build
Last edited by: CGNorwich on Thu 10 Apr 14 at 16:59
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Focusless
>> The two communities of humanity would then tend to diverge with natural selection
>> on the settled planet favouring those features that favoured the new environment. For example a
>> planet with higher gravity would favour a stocky more muscular body build

But that's the 'problem' - modern medicine means natural selection doesn't really come into it.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Westpig
We've got two species now.

Us and chavs.
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Harleyman
>> Happens quite regularly.
>>


Thank heavens for that, thought it was just me.

It's a damn nuisance though and sloppy website management.
Last edited by: Harleyman on Thu 10 Apr 14 at 00:56
 Some of us thought it was already happening... - Focusless
Current top story - pope to resign. From Feb last year. Bug, or did something suddenly trigger interest in the pope?
Last edited by: Focusless on Thu 10 Apr 14 at 09:05
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