I am surprised and disappointed that such a dim view should be taken of the anodyne phrase 'not all there'. I feel people here are taking politics in a glumly serious way and failing to appreciate its rich potential for knockabout comedy.
'My noble opponent would cease to be known as a rapist and embezzler, were his many unpunished murders to come to the attention of the authorities...'
That's more the sort of thing we want. And we want it now.
For needs to make a sensational comeback.
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I said in the now hidden thread I didn't agree with a lot UKIP has to say. And suggested the thread was deleted because it would do no favours. But he should stand.
And now I've mentioned FoR and standing for UKIP in the same thread... this will now be deleted as well. Sorry. And if it is then that's telling of this forum. It's public pretty much isn't it?
I bet a lot of people aren't all there.... a lot on here come to that :-)
Last edited by: rtj70 on Tue 17 Dec 13 at 19:28
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P.S. If Stu asked for the thread to be removed (I think it should have) it was not wise to post a new thread saying it's gone IMO. What he said could still be available on a cached copy of the site somewhere. Better to hide it and leave it at that?
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Its a strange world where the PM can call 32,000 people, plus millions of voters 'fruitcakes, loons and closet racists' but if you are lower down the foodchain you have to behave like Mary Poppins. I officially have no opinion, except on Hyundais.
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>>if you are lower down the foodchain you have to behave like Mary Poppins
What's your point?
Surely if a person wishes to be elected he thus should present himself in the way most likely to achieve that, rather than whinging about how its not fair he has to behave well when others don't.
I rather believe its called "politics".
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...but if you are lower down the foodchain you have to behave like Mary Poppins.
UKIP ally pugilistic, RP'll reproach us.
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>> Better to hide it and leave it at that?
Why even do that? There was nothing wrong with it in the first place, except for people's pathetic faffing about the inadvisability of slandering your political opponents. It isn't inadvisable at all. Without it politics is a dreary waste of endless parliamentary debates on sub-clauses of complicated bills of no interest to an ordinary human.
Seems crazy to me to seek any elective office, but where would we be actually if some people didn't? Personally I'm not even half-persuaded by UKIP but some here are. Until FoR is publicly exposed as having genuinely distasteful views I support him (only here though, he wouldn't want me on the hustings) in his grassroots endeavours. UKIP is splinter group politics, quite a lot in common with ethnic and religious politics, occupying another part of the same fringe. With the mainstream parties fast-tracking their cloned baby MPs through special training careers the fringe stuff gets to look more intellectually respectable.
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Both out 'out' UKIP candidates have disclosed enough information that we all know the ward in which they've stood. Just in case there were any doubt both have removed it as they have or have had user names that disclose their forenames
The issue for me therefore is that it's pretty easy to identify exactly who Stu was talking about.
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But to what end? To what effect?
If the lady is as mad as Stu claims she can probably look after herself. But surely in the meantime it's more entertaining to see if she will mind than to go to the trouble of minding for her?
If she's someone you know then defend her. Otherwise, why bother unless there's something very poisonous about the attack?
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There's plenty in both houses of parliament in the UK that perhaps shouldn't be. But we as a country elected them. Similar for local elections.
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>>Seems crazy to me to seek any elective office, but where would we be actually if some people didn't? <<
Oh it is crazy and after a campaign of personal harassment on our own front door I concluded it is unlikely to be worth it.
>>With the mainstream parties fast-tracking their cloned baby MPs through special training careers the fringe stuff gets to look more intellectually respectable.<<
If that is what people vote for they deserve what they get really, politicians are quite a strange bunch, they live their lives having to justify their every word and I think it is why they appear 'cloned', they are scared to say anything other than what they are told to - only when they retire do they get interesting, Boris aside of course.
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Which is why others should stand Stu.
Harassment on your door you say though - not today?
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>>Harassment on your door you say though - not today?<<
Over 6 months now, car scratched, plants stamped on, my wife has been harassed in the street, I even watched someone watch their dog do its business on our front lawn and then one day I came home to find someone standing outside our house taking pictures of it, no explanation why, they just slinked off.
It just drags you down, we have considered moving as my wife doesnt feel safe outside our house, you dont know what people will do.
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Unparliamentary? - rtj70
