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Sun 6 Oct 13 21:41

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Westpig

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-24421402

I am reliably informed that the local police chief was somewhat unimpressed (and bluntly said so) when he found out about this some time afterwards... and any protocols about informing others went out of the window.

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Sun 6 Oct 13 21:52

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Zero

>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-24421402
>>
>> I am reliably informed that the local police chief was somewhat unimpressed (and bluntly said
>> so) when he found out about this some time afterwards... and any protocols about informing
>> others went out of the window.

So what the local bill going to do when one of those cooks up, drops through the bottom of the boat and boils up plymouth sound? They are as powerless and ill equiped to deal with it as everyone else.

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Sun 6 Oct 13 23:02

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Westpig

>> So what the local bill going to do when one of those cooks up, drops
>> through the bottom of the boat and boils up plymouth sound? They are as powerless
>> and ill equiped to deal with it as everyone else.
>>

Yes...but what is the point of having contingency plans and what have you, if one of the parties fails to comply at the first hurdle?

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Mon 7 Oct 13 09:10

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Old Navy

>> So what the local bill going to do when one of those cooks up, drops
>> through the bottom of the boat and boils up plymouth sound? They are as powerless
>> and ill equiped to deal with it as everyone else.
>>

What is your source for this scenario, Zero, the Daily Mail ?

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Mon 7 Oct 13 09:11

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Zero

Nah, the Russian Navy.

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Mon 7 Oct 13 09:19

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Old Navy

Are you referring to this ?

It may be a hint as to what would happen if we had a big problem.

www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/k19/radiation_main.html

I doubt if the plods would have a great involvement beyond crowd control. :-)

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Mon 7 Oct 13 16:26

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Westpig

>> I doubt if the plods would have a great involvement beyond crowd control. :-)
>>

Stopping you lot coming down the M5/A303/A30/A38 might be a good start.

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Mon 7 Oct 13 16:31

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Westpig

Some bed time reading for you

tinyurl.com/qxdk6ym

Just so you know there's a bit more to it than just kissing your backside goodbye.

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Mon 7 Oct 13 18:24

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Old Navy

>> Stopping you lot coming down the M5/A303/A30/A38 might be a good start.
>>

I don't think that would be a problem, you might catch a few of the media panicked for speeding on the "up" side of the roads mentioned. :-)

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Sun 6 Oct 13 21:57

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Old Navy

Nuclear submarines should always have two sources of power for their reactor cooling pumps, one in use, and a backup. These can be Steam, (not available when shut down in harbour), Diesels, The submarines batteries, Shore power, (national grid), plus an emergency system using seawater if the submarine is afloat, this can be supplied from ashore if the submarine is in dry dock. I very much doubt if all these failed, The people who make the most noise about nuclear problems usually have the least knowledge.

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Sun 6 Oct 13 22:05

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Ted

Never mind, it may never happen.,,,,,,but if it does........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIoBrob3bjI

Ted

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Sun 6 Oct 13 22:05

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - MD

And no second chance. You weren't there either ON.

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Sun 6 Oct 13 22:15

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Old Navy

>> And no second chance. You weren't there either ON.
>>

I should have said "at least" two cooling options, I know the contingency plan if it goes pear shaped and would not worry about the outcome.

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Mon 7 Oct 13 09:17

Devonport dockyard nuclear issue - Bromptonaut

However many safety fall backs are supposed to be in place they're potentially useless if people are not following proper procedures.

The ONR improvement notice linked from the BBC article suggests process was not being followed.

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