Listening to Wimmen's Hour on the way back from the shops - a ever so worthy and serious (if rather anti-chap) programme. They were talking about the Sex Industry - when the presenter the ever so worthy and serious etc... Jenni Murray said "Tomorrow we'll be talking to Mr Whatever the Chair of the Lap Dancing Association" now that was a mental image and a half - Nurse !!
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How do they get away with a programme called Women's Hour in 2010?
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That Chair of the LDAUK will be a certain Simon Warr, the one who claimed to a parliamentary committee that lap-dancing is not sexually stimulating - and he had Peter Stringfellow to back him up! Check the story at tinyurl.com/58xwug
The committee greeted his claim with scepticism. (It takes one to know one? They were speaking from experience?)
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Who else is still around to remember Jack de Manio's slip on whatever the Today programme was called back in the '60s?
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Noticed a slip of the pen at Asda today......
Nectarines, £1 a punnet...............2 for £3.
HeHe
Ted
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>> Who else is still around to remember Jack de Manio's slip on whatever the Today
>> programme was called back in the '60s?
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Yes I do. Didn't he say the Land of the Nigg er instead of Niger?
M
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He may well have done.
I was referring to the item about 'a brand new type of organism', without the 'ni'.
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...Yes I do. Didn't he say the Land of the Nigg er instead of Niger?...
Some fool on here rated this as offensive - shades of the over bearing idiocy that used to pervade the other place.
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>> ...Yes I do. Didn't he say the Land of the Nigg er instead of Niger?...
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>> Some fool on here rated this as offensive -
I don't understand why some people are so touchy. You could call me a white honky to my face and it wouldn't bother me at all. Sticks and stones etc.
P.S. When I was young I used to have a golliwog.
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When GazProm, the russian state gas company, recently invested in Nigeria, they called the company NiGaz.
Not as bad as Powergen's Italian operation - powergenitalia - but close...
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When we were young and playing Rugby we had an Indian mate who we called Jack the Pak. Great guy. The party trick on the way home from an away fixture was to send him into a pub on his own, preferably a rough one. He would act bold as brass and inevitably get picked on. Usually gave it no more than ten minutes (cos us was thirsty) and then bowl into said boozer at 30 second intervals, walk up to Jack and shake his hand etc. Oh! such deep joy watching the local dead heads squirm when they realised they had no chance if it kicked off. Strangely though it never did, but came close once.
I guess most, if not all of you remember the likes of love thy neighbour, Alf Garnett etc. Funny funny programmes and I never really remember anyone getting uppity about them. Alf always came off the loser as did Jack from love thy neighbour so the joke was always on us white honky's, but how we roared. If you get a chance have a peek at u tube and Alf Garnett and in particular when he is on the train with Spike as a Pakistani. Watch it all cos it is sooo funny.
Kate Williams who played the white wife in Love thy neighbour alongside the gorgeous Nina Baden-Semper spent her 40th Birthday in Malta and I danced with her most of the night much to managements chagrin.
I find it so strange the porn and far worse disgusting filth, bad manners, violence etc. is so prevalent now and there are no boundaries left, but take the siss out of a black person, a Jew, or in fact anyone will attract the attention of the Authorities (sic) so easily, when all one is doing is no more than having a laugh. This country has truly lost the plot.
Peace to you all. Daughter's wedding Saturday. Can't wait.
M
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Good luck and I hope the sun shines on her for you Martin:)
Good post and brings back memories of my early years working in and around Leicester where lots of the best people were Paki Pete's:)
Pat
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The use of the word n***** (or derivatives) when describing a black man, in any context is offensive, This is because in history the word has never been used lightheartedly or in a jocular way, but was born out repression. However, to dub out the use of the name in old films is perverting history and should be abhored.
Golliwogs, too are offensive, as they have imagery in the same repression and slavery. I can fully live with a society that has no place for them in any form.
The use of the word "paki" is however I believe acceptable, because its merely a shortened slang of a country of origin.
I also object to those who would steal our regalia of nation (the cross of St George, images of Winston Churchill etc) in order to try and foster racial supremacy or single breed state. Its not theirs to abuse in such a way.
But in my mind, racial jokes are vital. The nation that can laugh at its self or its diversity will learnt o survive and live with itself.
There is however, one racial grouping that deserves all the hostility and abuse it gets.
Even at the expense of never having my drive tarmacked again.
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Most non-Pakistani Asians who are called "Pakis" are offended by its use whatever the views of an actual Pakistani may be - Some Pakistanis have reclaimed the offensive connotations of "Paki" as has the use of the N word by certain Black groups.
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>> " N word by certain Black groups.
Not in the UK, and only by gangsta elements.(because they think it sounds BAD) ( my sister in law is married to a west indian and they have mixed race kids)
> Paki" as has the use of the
Mostly because they object to being associated with pakistan, which has a very poor reputation int he region.
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>> Not in the UK, and only by gangsta elements
I beg to differ somewhat, Zero. The word is used by black people sometimes, even in mixed company when they are sure it won't be misunderstood or serve as an excuse for closet racist needling. But you are right to point out that these epithets put everyone on rather thin ice.
Some little while ago, but in recent years, a dope dealer told me that at a business meeting he had used the term 'Paki black', a term that dates back to the sixties, to describe some hashish. To his amusement several other dope dealers present, whom he jokily described as 'a right bunch of villains', appeared shocked by what seemed to them racism applied to the Product. I thought it pretty funny too.
Here as elsewhere what goes around comes around. Male homosexuals used to abhor the term 'queer' but I believe it is acceptable now in gay circles.
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>> Mostly because they object to being associated with pakistan, which has a very poor reputation
>> int he region.
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Similar to labelling all Europeans as Paddy or Scouse or Jock or Cockney or p**** or ........ (add word to describe your chosen regional variant which has a very poor reputation).
p**** is a word that the filter does not like, but it is very similar to Paki describing the European people who did Zero's tarmac drive.
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>>p**** is a word that the filter does not like<<
p**** ... just testing.
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>> Similar to labelling all Europeans as Paddy or Scouse or Jock or Cockney
NOt at all. Being called a scouser, a jock, a taff a mick or a cockney is not the same.
p**** is used as an insult for a certain grouping, and well earned and deserved.
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>>p**** is used as an insult for a certain grouping, and well earned and deserved.<<
But surely Mr. Zed must have known about their reputation (Bad) beforehand, even my Dog knows about them.
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I have never had a drive tarmacked, it was merely an instrument to describe group of people.
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>> I have never had a drive tarmacked,
Clothes pegs? Lucky shamrock? Tell your fortune? Those were the days eh? Low bulk, high value...
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I was thrown a deadly curse once by a female purveyor of fine lucky shamrock and heather, because i told her to sod off.
Its been a blessing.
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>> Golliwogs, too are offensive, ..........
One can still buy them. tinyurl.com/yjh8xuz
"Golliwogs still hold a special place in our hearts today and are much loved by children."
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>> Not as bad as Powergen's Italian operation - powergenitalia - but close...
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The powergen story is a myth. Check it out on snopes.com.
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Charlotte Green, possibly after the 87 storm, reporting that a cross flannel cherry had been blown onto Folkestone beach. All safe and refloated in short order.
Poor lass could barely complete the bulletin for giggling.
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google charlotte green giggles for 25.7m hits...
Just to correct the cross flannel cherry point, that was on the News Quiz. www.independent.co.uk/news/a-t***-a-sprat-and-a-whale-help-today-lose-the-plot-1274884.html
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Mappy,
My recollection was from the first news of the day at around 5am. I don't think the Indy's report of Coren ambushing her on the following NQ is inconsistent with that.
I am however wrong in conflating it with the image of the unlamented Hengist (or Horsa) aground on Folkestone beach. This was a later incident.
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I didn't hear the original, but they made her squirm when she was the announcer on the news quiz and repeated it - Alan Coren IIRC.
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Was it an apocrypal story about the BBC announcer who was so worried about pronouncing the composers name Rimsky Korsakov that he spent ages rehearsing it and announced that the next piece is by Rimsky Korsakov..........
He then announced the piece to be played as 'The Bum of the Flightle Bee....'.
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If you think it is easy just reading things out on the telly............
.............did anybody see John ( Lord Prescott of the Pie Shop ) last night on ' Have I got news for you' trying to pronounce 'Vasectomy'
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John Prescott had a problem with the word Vasectomy on Have I Got News For You last night - mind you he sent himself up wonderfully on the show, I had a grudging respect by the end of the show.
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Sorry Pug - no respect here..... I think the guy was promoted completely out of his depth to keep the peace between old and new Labour.
- Oh Yes indeed I will never take a peerage - against all my principles but Pauline wanted it for me.
Secret Nooky in government provided flats.
What a Hypocrite .....
Its frightening to think that he was Deputy PM and was occasionally left in charge....
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Slip of the tongue on Radio 4 - Dog
