Is the G9 halogen capsule.
My Mother has a light fitting which takes 3 of them. I probably see her every 4-5 weeks and I swear I'm replacing bulbs in it on each visit. Today it was all three. Sure I replaced two no longer ago than June. Brother in law has probably been prevailed on to change them as well.
And they're a pain to fit too. Occasionally they push in as intended but usually it's a struggle to get them into place without bending a contact. If, as may happen eventually a bulb fails explosively then remains are going to be impossible to extract.
Is there an answer?
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 25 Aug 13 at 18:10
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>>>Is there an answer?
Yes never ever buy a fitting that uses them. Once, just once, I made that mistake with a triple lamp unit in the last house dining room. Only lived with it for 18mths but bought bulk packs of bulbs time and again.
Now I don't care how nice the fitting when we're looking I'll not go near it if G9s are fitted.
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My own mistake was buying a pack of six candle bulbs from the 99p shop. When they went they went by ejecting the bulb from it's base with a bang and a shower of sparks, mostly taking the fuse with them.
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Luckily it was one of old bosses mistakes that taught me about cheap bulbs, at one time he used to buy Lucas 24v lorry bulbs which lasted ages.
One day the Ring rep called, so cheap were they that my boss bought thousands of them, and thousands of them we used, those that didn't fizzle as you put them in would be blown before the day was out, a single trip across from Widnes to one of the Notts collieries would normally see 6 out of the typical 8 trailer side light bulbs blown and at least one brake light out, hopeless.
Where i work now they still use Lucas bulbs and, hows about this for old school, Morris' oils, superb stuff, if it aint broke etc..;)
Last edited by: gordonbennet on Sun 25 Aug 13 at 18:46
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I know the local rep for Morris oils ! Oily chap and a bit of dipstick, goes by the name of Max.
Last edited by: R.P. on Sun 25 Aug 13 at 19:13
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Eh, I have a G4 in my desk lamp, it's on all day from 7am 'til 11pm and it lasts for yonks.
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A G4 is not a G9. G4's are nearly as bad as G9's but not quite. Both terrible bulbs.
I used to curse GU10s, but now I have found salvation, replaced them all with TCP 4led 4watt ones, from Homebase.
Superb bright pure white light, cool running, 25 year guarantee.
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>> Brother in law has probably been prevailed on to change them as well.
Maybe your brother in-law is taking the working ones when he visits and swapping them for duds :-)
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>> Maybe your brother in-law is taking the working ones when he visits and swapping them
>> for duds :-)
You've not seen my sister make toast? ;-P
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I have along with a very fine breakfast ;)
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Zero what are they lightbulbs equivalent wattage?
Will they replace 50W GU10s that are actually needed for their brightness?
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>> Zero what are they lightbulbs equivalent wattage?
>> Will they replace 50W GU10s that are actually needed for their brightness?
Yes. Brighter in fact
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Ok, tenner for two just now, might pick up some tomorrow.
A quick count tells me we use 30 of these bulbs in the house!
Also use them in our shop windows!
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>> Ok, tenner for two just now, might pick up some tomorrow.
>> A quick count tells me we use 30 of these bulbs in the house!
>> Also use them in our shop windows!
www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=100730
These ones. Superb bulbs.
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I bought 4 x 100w clear bayonet good old energy inefficient light bulbs this week in Poundland, cost me £1 each.
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>> >> Ok, tenner for two just now, might pick up some tomorrow.
>> >> A quick count tells me we use 30 of these bulbs in the house!
>> >> Also use them in our shop windows!
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>> www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=100730
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>> These ones. Superb bulbs.
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Just bought a couple, Ticket price £9.99, went through the till at £8.49, even better!
That's all my GU10s converted.
Last edited by: Old Navy on Mon 26 Aug 13 at 13:10
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>>we use 30 of these bulbs in the house
That's equivalent to having a 1.5KW fire running when they're all on.
I hate the things, make a house too hot in the Summer so I haven't got any.
I wonder what it costs business premises with them to run air-con?
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Sons room is the warmest in the house.
Four of these bulbs in the ceiling, the xbox and TV on playing, while he talks to mates on Facebook on his laptop.
The heat that comes off his 32 inch LCD Samsung TV is worrying for power consumption and of course the fan on the xbox just blows more heat about!
My ZX81 was never that warm........
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GU10 is the worst. I have 37 of them in the kitchen and I doubt if more than 2/3 are working at any one time.
I didn't make many mistakes when we did up our house, but this was certainly a major one.
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indeed, but i now worship at the altar of those led bulbs i mentioned.
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Way to go. I shall convert.
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We have dozens of them, there are 8 in this room alone, all 4 bedrooms, landing, hall, lounge, music room, kitchen - We hardly ever use the room based ones - the hall, landing and kitchen obviously are - one has failed here in the 2.5 years we've been here - the bulb fell apart above the mirror in one of the bathrooms - replaced it with an LED one - which is the plan with all of themas they fail.
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I have found the 'energy efficient' candle bulbs which are basically a halogen capsule inside an old style incandesant bulb to be utter guff.
Certanly shorter life than the tungsten filaments they replace.
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Same with the 'energy efficient' cooker hood bulbs - total waste of money and I've gorn back to 'the old type'.
Pity y'all cant get LED cooker hood bulbs, yet.
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>> Pity y'all cant get LED cooker hood bulbs, yet.
You can - I have! Straight replacement for the standard type.
tinyurl.com/kxqpb7f
Last edited by: Roger on Mon 26 Aug 13 at 12:50
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>> A G4 is not a G9. G4's are nearly as bad as G9's but not
>> quite. Both terrible bulbs.
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>> I used to curse GU10s, but now I have found salvation, replaced them all with
>> TCP 4led 4watt ones, from Homebase.
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>> Superb bright pure white light, cool running, 25 year guarantee.
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Funnily enough, exactly the same brand I used to replace most of mine. Highly recommended.
The only exception is a bedroom where I wanted a slightly warmer colour, and though expensive can recommend the Sylvania 7W from Screwfix at about £15/lamp. Beautiful light colour, decent spread, and easily as bright as the 50W halogens it replaces.
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Slight drift here…
Does anyone use 60W 2D bulbs in their light fittings?
We want a small light fitting for one of the smaller rooms in the house and have identified two that might be suitable. One uses a 60W screw-in candle type bulb (supplied) and the other a 60W 2D bulb (via Amazon and not supplied)
The 60W candle would probably suffice, but would I be right in thinking that the 60W 2D would give more light, and if so are they readily available, as they don’t appear to be stocked by our local DIY sheds?
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Came across these guys - never used them, but they look reasonable for choice plus 15% of first order
www.ledhut.co.uk/spot-lights/g9-bulbs.html?gclid=CNPniKXgmrkCFbIPtAodejkAZg
Also IKEA are now doing a reasonable range of LED lights
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>>are they readily available, as they
>> don’t appear to be stocked by our local DIY sheds?
So, pray, in what way would you like us to expand on your own answer to your own question?
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I converted several lamps to LED recently, four 35w GU10s to 4w LED, two background lighting lights which are on about eight hours a day converted to 7.5w GLS LED bulbs and the standard lamp I use for reading by my chair converted to 10w GLS led. All have a supposed life of 25 years, are well up to their jobs, and I will continue to convert the remaining lights in the house to LED.
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I shall go to hell in a hand basket.
Having experimented with various cfls, bought a light that needed some special bulb, observed that they are expensive to buy, and at the time i was trying it all, found that they give a poor light, take time to warm up, require replacing frequently, and so on and on, I gave up.
I went to Mr Amazon while I still could and bought a million ordinary bulbs, of various wattages as we all did for ever, and stick one in every so often. Perhaps twice a year one blows somewhere.
Might cost me a pound or two a year more to run but I'll happily pay it for the reduction in hassle, and I've saved a fortune in replacing perfectly good lights. Plus I guess I use a smidge less heating oil in winter, so it all balances out acceptably.
Technology might have moved on but I see no value for me to try again until forced, to be honest.
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>> Technology might have moved on but I see no value for me to try again
>> until forced, to be honest.
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But it hasn't moved on has it?
The cfls as you say, are more expensive to buy, give for light, don't last so long etc...
So, instead of using more electricity in use, more are made, and replaced..
Also not so 'clean' in recycling terms..
It's just moving the problem rather than curing it...
Bit like electric cars really.....
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>> So, pray, in what way would you like us to expand on your own answer
>> to your own question?
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How very droll...
I wasn't aware that I had answered my own question - well, not fully anyway! Although the 60W 2D bulbs are not available in the two DIY sheds a short distance from my humble abode, they may just be available near yours.
More help - less attitude, please.
;)
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>>More help - less attitude, please.
Good luck with that.
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>> >> So, pray, in what way would you like us to expand on your own
>> answer
>> >> to your own question?
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>> How very droll...
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>> I wasn't aware that I had answered my own question - well, not fully anyway!
>> Although the 60W 2D bulbs are not available in the two DIY sheds a short
>> distance from my humble abode, they may just be available near yours.
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>> More help - less attitude, please.
>> ;)
The very fact you have to ask, after not having found them at your local DIY sheds, has answered your question. It would certainly put me off anyway.
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>> The very fact you have to ask, after not having found them at your local
>> DIY sheds, has answered your question. It would certainly put me off anyway.
I'll ring the local long established lighting shop tomorrow, and if they don't stock (or can't order) the 2D bulbs, we'll settle for the 60W candle alternative.
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>> >> The very fact you have to ask, after not having found them at your
>> local
>> >> DIY sheds, has answered your question. It would certainly put me off anyway.
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>> I'll ring the local long established lighting shop tomorrow, and if they don't stock (or
>> can't order) the 2D bulbs, we'll settle for the 60W candle alternative.
The 60W 2D bulbs seem to be available in specialist lighting shops - around my area, anyway. However, as (I'm told) they give the equivalent of around 150W of light, they would be a tad too bright for our loo.
Yawn.
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We still sell the 'traditional' bayonet bulbs in 40/60/100/150w guise. Now tagged RSL (Rough service lamp) to meet EEC regs, or so I am informed. All this means is that the bayonet part can be a little rusty, but they work ok. We sell lots in our small DIY shop.
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I have just changed three 'lightbulbs' of a type specified by the architect who refurbished this house, and carelessly accepted by us. Although allegedly low-consumption, they get very hot when on so are obviously wasting a lot of energy. The heat attracts and kills insects and beetles of every sort which then lie on the glass cover plate in a thick layer. And they aren't bulbs but incandescent tubes with a contact at each end, to be inserted into heavily spring-loaded ceramic sockets. Takes a certain amount of finger strength and coordination while standing on a chair or kneeling, stooping because the ceilings aren't that high, to change these tubes. I don't think herself could do it.
All architects should be tortured to death on global TV, slowly, one by one. Only a sub-human would specify for a private house fittings better suited to a public building with a full-time handyman. Carphounds... charming when you meet them though, butter wouldn't melt in their mouths.
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>> We still sell the 'traditional' bayonet bulbs in 40/60/100/150w guise. Now tagged RSL (Rough service
>> lamp)
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My only quibble with these is that they aren't rough service, and are useless in an inspection lamp if you drop it. But otherwise I agree - stock up on real lightbulbs while you can.
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