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Thread Author: Stuu Replies: 114

 Under appreciated music artists - Stuu
Any suggestions for who should have been more successful than they have been?
 Under appreciated music artists - Crankcase
Can't remember if you have Spotify, but if you do, here is my suggestion.

spotify:album:0DNjLV90glZNVotsHGDLeU

Paste that in your browser and weep.

 Under appreciated music artists - BiggerBadderDave
Alan Wren, Stone Roses. The greatest drummer that ever walked the earth, prodigiously talented but hasn't done anything with it for nearly 20 years. What a dreadful waste.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Amy Wadge
 Under appreciated music artists - RattleandSmoke
It depends if you mean sales or critical aclaim. I am not sure about wrenie, he just bangs the drums and wants to be adored while the fools that are in the crowd got robbed of their gold while the lead singer is singing about islam and having a reserection.

Certainly a lot of the stone roses stuff had very good drum solos.

Cliff Richard is under appcreiated to a certain point, his earlier stuff was ground breaking he just didn't know when to quit and has become a bit of a joke because of it.

 Under appreciated music artists - Stuu
By the way, if you can attach a youtube clip of them that would be good :-)
 Under appreciated music artists - RattleandSmoke
Well you did ask

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4IA7DR1jK0

We may laugh now but this was 52 years ago.
 Under appreciated music artists - Clk Sec
Hardly under appreciated, though.
 Under appreciated music artists - RattleandSmoke
Not by grannies, but certainly by the media. When the story of British Rock Roll is told it often amazes me how Cliff is ignored. A lot of his new stuff is so awful it should be ilegal but there was nothing else in the UK which sounded like they did back in the late 50's.

An artist can sell millions and still be underappreciated. Other artists seem to have the balance just right, e.g Paul Simon.

I am actually finding it really hard to find an artist wich fits the description. There is a small Manchester band called Performance who have done a lot of the festivals over the past ten years they really should have broken out when the Killers did but some how never quite made it.
 Under appreciated music artists - bathtub tom
Jake Thakray
 Under appreciated music artists - Clk Sec
Roger Miller.
 Under appreciated music artists - Bromptonaut
Alex Glasgow. As well as being musicaly brilliant the satire of The Candidate or Mary Baker City Mix are as relevant today as in their seventies setting.
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHUgpSxMoI&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqrMd5y7QXQ&feature=related
 Under appreciated music artists - BiggerBadderDave
Wichita Lineman is one of my fave ever tunes, he does a more updated version with Michelle Shocked on backing vocals. If I checked, it would probably be in the top 20 of my most played in itunes.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Zero,

Thanks for the Grenadier Guards clip - brings back memories of 11/9..We lost a distant relative in the attack.

Some further classic reading/listening below from Alistair Cooke.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/1560502.stm

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/letter_from_america/1552086.stm


Whatever the rights and wrongs of what happened since and the failures of the BBC as seen by many, the Beeb delivered a peerless service that day, fronted in a large part by Sean Evans, their Business Correspondent who happened to be there when it happened.
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
www.youtube.com/watch?v=un2EfjEJAOA&feature=related
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hU68C8vqjg
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0
 Under appreciated music artists - BiggerBadderDave
How about this?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRX4mlFi06A
 Under appreciated music artists - Roger.
Maxine Sullivan
 Under appreciated music artists - Bromptonaut
On a pont of order:-

Please could members idenitfy the artist/content when posting u-tube and similar links.

But if the Wichita Lineman reference covers Glenn Campbell I'm a fan as well.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Agreed it keeps the Mods awake having to view each one. :-)
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
typical of the lack of trust and lack of sense of adventure and suprise shown on here.

I shant bother again.
 Under appreciated music artists - Bromptonaut
If it's something new I'd probably follow the link.

If it's going to be SuBo I'd rather know in advance!!
 Under appreciated music artists - Alastairw
Slightly worried that I seem to have the same musical taste as Zero...

.....wanders off, muttering
 Under appreciated music artists - Soupytwist
I'm at work where we're blocked access to Youtube so having the artist's name in the post would be very helpful because if it's someone I've heard of, I can join in.
With no artist's name I'm excluded and I'll have to go back to doing some actual work.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Zero - see smiley ! :-) (another one)
 Under appreciated music artists - Manatee
>> Jake Thackray
>>

Too many to list, but I'll second Jake. Best album IMO Live Performance.

I'll add Bic Runga.
 Under appreciated music artists - Ted

My tastes go back a bit further than Cliff...........is that allowed ?

Al Bowlly.......career ended by an air raid.
Annette Hanshaw.

Ted
 Under appreciated music artists - RattleandSmoke
Hehe Ted, if we took you to a Hillybilly event you would think the music is cutting edge stuff :).

Mind you most of my favourites bands were around before I was even born so I can't talk!
 Under appreciated music artists - BiggerBadderDave
Some grevous angel anyone? One of the best tunes ever written...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1m5g4eHVk

And this for my ex-wife

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNz-EiO3BRY
 Under appreciated music artists - CGNorwich
Any jazz lovers out there?

Blossom Dearie was to my mind one of the great jazz singers but never quite made it to the super star status she richly deserved. Much admired by other singers though.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHUVWEgHAy8
 Under appreciated music artists - Ted

Ah...backup ! Thanks Cgn. I always enjoyed Blossom's voice.
I always thought she was the successor to Annette Hanshaw who was born in 1901 and managed 84 yrs. At the height of her fame in the jazz era.....the original ' flapper ' girl.
Plenty on YouTube.
Although my tastes are largely serious classical and opera, I do enjoy a lot of early jazz.
I've recorded stuff by Bessie Smith, Trixie Smith and Ma Rainey amongst others.

All atmospheric stuff.

When you've grown up, Rats, you'll appreciate proper, lasting music. very little of today's stuff will stay the course !

Ted
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
>> When you've grown up, Rats, you'll appreciate proper, lasting music. very little of today's stuff
>> will stay the course !

The smellies have always said that, you parents probably said that to you. When it comes to music, the old are always wrong.
 Under appreciated music artists - Haywain
Anybody who knows anything about music will already be well aware of the work of Richard Thompson, though he still remains something of a cult figure. This is a clip of him with his son, Teddy; The video quality isn't good, but the harmonies are wonderful. www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3DS6xglAfQ
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
Another Jazz & Blues lover here -

Last night was at a brilliant gig in Croydon with Jools Holland band

A very special guest was in my opinion the very under appreciated Ruby Turner -- what a voice and what a performer ....the whole audience were up and dancing , applauding , cheering for more .

Stacey Kent also does not get anything like the recognition she deserves - her singing is just brilliant.

Most of you have probably never heard of Ben Waters who in my opinion is the best boogy woogy piano player in the world - have a listen and marvel at his playing in this warm up session

www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5P0HxGJc-g
 Under appreciated music artists - Manatee
>>Stacey Kent also does not get anything like the recognition she deserves - her singing is just brilliant.

Couldn't agree more. Humph was a fan, which reminds me that Helen Shapiro did some great stuff with the Lyttelton band, remember seeing them together at the Stables a few years ago. I still dig out the Humph'n'Helen CDs.
 Under appreciated music artists - CGNorwich
Totally agree about Stacey Kent - truly outstanding. Always includes Norwich in her UK tour and I try not to miss her appearances. Her husband Jim Tomlinson, who accompanies her is a great saxophonist. She has new album out 31 may
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Liked the Ben Waters clip - Axel Zwingenberger plays great boogie too - he doesn't look much and really shouldn't sing but here he is in action www.youtube.com/watch?v=icwPw-XylAg&feature=related with some other guy - quite awesome. And here's a solo one www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaX-pwPQho8

As a kid, I had an uncle who was self taught and used to liven up Christmas's playing boogie. I had the mandatory piano lessons when I was 9 but would love to be able to play like that - wonder how long it would take to learn? (I have recently acquired a full size electronic drum kit which is good fun)

Saw Jools & his Big Band at Edinburgh some years back, what a party that was...
Last edited by: smokie on Fri 28 May 10 at 10:17
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
Smokie, You are a man after my own heart.

Yea - When I met him at a gig last year Axel looked a bit like a 70's porn star with his moustache and wearing green shoes!

Axel is not quite up to Ben Waters in my opinion playing a more formal stride style to Bens belting boogy woogy. Ben is the only player I have ever seen whose hands become a blur as he plays - I sit open mouthed in amazement at the speed of his playing . He was actually moving the grand piano over the stage as he played .

I met Axel and Ben together with Charlie Watts of the Stones playing as the ABC of Boogy Woogy ( A = Axel , B = Ben and C = Charlie) , what a great gig that was .

Ben is just the nicest and funniest fellow you could hope to meet and actually played piano at Jools wedding ..... how good a recommendation is that ?

Catch him in concert if you can.

 Under appreciated music artists - crocks
Watching those last few clips reminded me of a friend of mine, Hammy Howell, who played in a band in the 70s.
He could play all kind of styles but loved his boogy woogy. Sadly he died about ten years ago.
I've just found this clip of him that brings back so many memories.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KjNVk0_A9U
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
"Catch him in concert if you can. " - already researched that - he's got a couple of dates not far from me in June/July.

I heard some blinding blues music at last year's Chicago Blues festival and afterwards as I trawled round Mississippi, and Tennessee etc but my "best ever live gig" was seeing the Stones at the Brixton Academy during the Stripped tour - it was announced on Capital at 08:00 on the Tuesday for the Wednesday night - you had to turn up at the HMV shop with readies in hand and could only buy one ticket per person. Small venue, less than 3000 people, famous Stones "friends" in the audience and you could just walk right up to the stage throughout the gig. I stayed about 8 standing rows back most of the time but the whole experience was absolutely awesome, never to be forgotten.
 Under appreciated music artists - Phil F
Hi,
The best British band you have probably never heard of!.....Thunder.
 Under appreciated music artists - Pat
Oh yes I have :)

They are brilliant!

Pat
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
Hope you check him out Smokie. If you go to his gig Farnham Maltings its a bit crowded in the cellars there but a nice atmosphere. He will probably be on his own with just an electric piano. Some gigs he has guitar and drums and possibly a sax player with him. Depends on where he plays but if you get a chance to see him with the ABC of Boogy live do not miss it.

Did you get to Beale St in Memphis on your travels ?

Every sort of music venue from BB Kings club one end to guys just playing on the sidewalk.The house bands in the little clubs would be headliners over here.

I was in a fog of Jack Daniels in The Rum Boogie Cafe whilst listening to Billy Branch , a great Chicago harmonica player fighting against local players to outdo each other was quite a night ( and morning ) . I do remember he's a guy who knows how to play harmonica.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5JE2ntREc

In New Orleans The 544 club on Bourbon St has a great Blues Band ( the Allweather Blues Band ) worth checking out along with Donnas on North Rampart.
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Probably will see him at the Crooked Billet @ Henley.

Yes, I had three nights in Memphis, where I saw the most visually entertaining band of my trip - a rockabilly outfit called The Dempseys . I had 45 late afternoon minutes in Bourbon St and loved it - it was an unplanned stop, solely because I plan to visit for some time in the future and my schedule was already hectic.

I found great music in many places, and that was part of the purpose of the trip. The first (long) weekend was at the Chicago Blues Festival, where I spent Saturday afternoon listening to Nick Moss and the Fliptops in Buddy Guy's. They played a really strong set. Other places I went included Nashville, Jackson and of course Ground Zero in Clarksdale, MS. The Mississippi Blues Trail en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Blues_Trail was one of my inspirations for the trip.

I'd love to spend more time there doing most of it again but a night in Henley will have to do for now!!
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Have booked a table at the Crooked Billet to see Ben Waters on 6 July. They said they'd run part of it outdoors, weather permitting. Looking forward to it.
 Under appreciated music artists - crocks
I'm a big fan of Never The Bride.
Here's a track to get you started - www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUU0eLwV0M
 Under appreciated music artists - Armel Coussine
Purely accidentally, once saw a band called Winter at the Roundhouse, in the seventies I think. Two Texan brothers, the older brother playing alto sax but the big talent being Johnny, a skinny manic albino speedhead guitar player who could squeeze more clear distinct on-the-beat steel guitar notes into a second than one would believe possible, for a very long time too.

I always sneer when I hear these well-known, well-fed millionaire car collectors described as the world's greatest guitar players.
 Under appreciated music artists - crocks
Here's a link to Johnny Winter in 1970.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGZTikKCJvg&feature=related

I certainly see what you mean AC about squeezing the notes in!
 Under appreciated music artists - Armel Coussine
Thank you crocks... that does indeed give something of the flavour. I remember the playing as being more consistently crystalline (so to speak) at the Roundhouse gig, and a different lineup perhaps. But memory can be a bit unreliable on things like that.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Dare --- cracking stuff.
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFv_PoZ2iP0&feature=related

Check out the close harmonies of the modernaires, and the smooooth Tex Beneke.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
The Wilders -

www.wilderscountry.com/
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
www.liveleak.com/view?i=f21_1275427569


Now that's what I call drumming - Dunno the name of the band - Lie Link has some adult content now and again etc.etc.
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
The band are called Rich K and the Allnighters according to the clip.

Now if you want some decent drumming watch this .........


www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXdPHsnwSI&feature=related

 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Went to see Amy Wadge on Sunday very, very underrated...great guitarist, decent songwriter and singer.

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 Under appreciated music artists - Runfer D'Hills
That's showing off PU.
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
I didn't know I could do that, I'm about to be thrashed by a wand I fear.
 Under appreciated music artists - Runfer D'Hills
Deservedly. Not cricket that. Not cricket at all........
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
talk about abusing your mods powers!
 Under appreciated music artists - Snakey
Anvil!
 Under appreciated music artists - Bellboy
wow
real picy tures
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Went to see Jooles Holland and his band tonight, one of his guests was Alison Moyet - brilliant voice...
Last edited by: Pugugly on Fri 2 Jul 10 at 23:28
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Got tickets for the selfsame PU, sometime later this year in Reading. Seen Jools and his big band before at the Edinburgh Festival , it was a great night out. They were a bit expensive for Reading though, over £34 each!
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
I saw them last month in Croydon - Alison Moyet was good but Ruby Turner stole the show and the drum solo by Gilson Lavis was awesome ( see the link I posted above).

Did he have any other special guests PU? Sometimes he has the brilliant Ben Waters who I posted about above .

Chris Barber appeared at Croydon as a special surprise guest and still plays a pretty mean trombone for his age which must be near if not 80...
 Under appreciated music artists - R.P.
Ruby Turner was the other - very Blues....Rico Rodriguez was featured, I have to say that Mark Flanagan was a support act....good guitarist and singer, both the latter are members of the band though. Gilson's drum solo was pretty awsome...
Last edited by: Pugugly on Sat 3 Jul 10 at 19:40
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Seeing Ben Waters at Henley on Tuesday following Helicopters earlier recommendation. Looking forward to it.
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
I hope you enjoy the show smokie....The Crooked Billet looks a mighty fine venue.

I prefer Ben doing original boogy rather than the later rock stuff that he plays Chuck Berry / Jerry Lee style or his own stuff . He is very free and easy with his shows and will play what the audience asks for ....... - so shout out if you want a particular piece and he will probably do it .....

Oh and be prepared to sing along - in particular if he does Sister Susie - sitting in a shoe shine shop. It gets the audience going and is a great laugh.

I have been sitting typing this whilst listening to him on You Tube.

I'm envious now....
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Well Ben Waters was really entertaining. It was not a heavy duty boogie show, but a good mix of songs you know (Chuck and Jerry Lee Lewis), some blues and a little boogie. And of course the comedy, including Sister Suzie.

The venue was fantastic, a pub in the middle of nowhere. The room held about 40 people and there was a £15 cover charge - and you are expected to eat something. Four of us spent just under £250 without too much trouble, which is a lot even for a Tuesday, but the food was excellent.

Would recommend both to anyone.

www.benwaters.com/

www.thecrookedbillet.co.uk/music.htm
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
I'm glad you enjoyed his show smokie -

I have to admit at the weekend I was seriously contemplating leaving work early and driving up there to catch his show but its probably two hours each way and if he finished at 11 pm or so it would have been a bit too late a night.

He's not the greatest singer in the world but his piano playing is phenomenal and I do enjoy his comedy - I bet he did this one

Chocolate on my fingers, icing on my lips
Sugar diabetes and blubber on my hips
I keep the night light burning in the kitchen baby
So I can go downstairs and cruise
I got them oreo creme sandwich
Chocolate covered creme filled cookie blues

I hide'em in a cabinet, I keep'em in a jar
For emergency's you know I keep'em in the
Glove compartment of my car
And I can't live without'em
They git' me higher than I can get on booze
I got them oreo creme sandwich
Chocolate covered creme filled cookie blues

Doctor says I'm crazy
You better give'em up and quick
Or you'll be pushing up daisies because
Boy you definitely sick
I couldn't quit if I wanted to
Yeah I don't wanna lose
It's them oreo creme sandwich
Chocolate cover creme filled cookie
Built by nabisco, ain't no rookie
Next best thang to nookie blues



It does look like a nice pub as well ( if a bit pricey).

 Under appreciated music artists - Iffy
...Four of us spent just under £250 without too much trouble...

How much?

At Blaydon WMC you can get a pie and peas supper for under a fiver, and there's at least two turns on, not just one.

There's also meat draw and a game of bingo upstairs if you want it.

Four of us spent £50 without too much trouble, that included a good scoop of drink and a taxi home.

 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
If you had saved up and spent as much as smokie and his mates did you could have bought a couple of houses up there as well......

Ah though the memories - I have not had a good Pie and Peas supper since my rugby playing days up there in the 60's but did buy and consume glorious fresh baked Scotch pies from the butcher in Bamburgh when I was last there ...
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Food was v good! The table of three next to us spent over £400 and they go every week!
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
It looks a nice gastropub but certainly pricey by most London gastropub standards, and believe me I have dined in a lot of them. Looking at the menu its easy to see how you could rack up a fair old bill but its not as though they hide the 'extras' like some places.

I have to say that I'm not averse to paying well for good grub but the most I have paid in the recent past for SWMBO and myself was £120 on our 36th anniversary back in May and that was three courses and coffee in a restaurant with a Michelin starred chef , a decent bottle of wine , a glass of an excellent dessert wine ,two glasses of champagne and the tip. It is in my top ten meals ever.

I could have dined in the same restaurant , same night on the set menu for less than half that but I don't think SWMBO would have been half as happy.

One of our best meals ever was a pre theatre dinner at Simpsons in the Strand a couple of years back - Three courses £20 per person on a set menu of half a dozen choices per course. SWMBO still drools over the memory of their steak and kidney pud!

 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
I agree this was expensive. There was a £15 cover charge for the music, so we managed to eat (2.5 courses) and drink very well for a bit over £45 a head, which is expensive, especially for a school night, but it really was very good. That doesn't then seem so pricey, especially as my Jools tickets were £34 each with no food/drink!

I'm unlikely to go back there because of the cost. Mind you, you don't have to have a full meal, they just ask that you order at least 1 course. Beer was £3.50 a pint, cheapest wine £19ish a bottle so we racked up some cost there!!
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
Yesterday I went to Guilfest ( and large concert in Guildford that annualy is rapidly gaining a large reputation and pulling in big names)

A stunning day.

Started off with Ali Cambell's UB40 who ran through a great repetoire of UB40 classics ( a reprehensible sleasebag but none the less a good voice) and ended up at clse to midnight with an hour and half of The Human League, who were utterly stunning. Inbetween watched Just Jack, declined the N-Dubz instead to watch a good Hazel O'connor set. Much great food and drink.

However the real show of the day, was a howling tight brass and sax section, jumpy and bouncy rythm section of drums and bongos and stuff that shakes and makes a noise, and a guy in a bright yellow zoot suit and wide brimmed panama - and of the course the joyous and delicious coconuts.

Way to go Kid Creole. As he said, this is for all you illigitimate children out there, you know who you are - Annie I'm not your daddie.

 Under appreciated music artists - Focusless
>> Yesterday I went to Guilfest

Sounds good - more fun than the 8+ hours I spent on the motorways beween Reading and the Lakes taking son up to grandparents for a week anyway...

>> Started off with Ali Cambell's UB40 who ran through a great repetoire of UB40 classics
>> ( a reprehensible sleasebag but none the less a good voice)

Can you expand (on the reprehensible, not his voice)? Is it his politics? Don't know much about the guy, although I believe he (or UB40) are popular with the less well known reggae artists who have benefitted from the royalties earned through the band's cover versions of their songs. I bought 'Food for Thought' (30 years ago - yikes), although Kingston Town is probably my favourite now.

>> watch a good Hazel O'connor set.

'Will you' - classic, used to try to play Wesley McGoogan's sax solo but wasn't quite the same :)
Last edited by: Focus on Sun 18 Jul 10 at 13:51
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
>> Can you expand (on the reprehensible, not his voice)?

no cant, not on here.

>> Kingston Town is probably my favourite now.

they did a very good version of Kingston Town, Red Red wine, but "Would I Lie for you" was superbly done.



 Under appreciated music artists - Dog
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RNe2jwHE0&feature=related
 Under appreciated music artists - Focusless
>> "Would I Lie for you" was superbly done.

I was racking my brains trying to remember a UB40 song called 'would I lie to you', failed, so had to resort to youtube. Didn't know it was *that* 'would I lie to you', which is a cracking song. I can imagine it would be impressive seeing someone sing that well, live.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ppqs7v-tjw
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
Just a sampler of how good Kid is live. This is 2007 but its a good representation of the show in 2010.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK7D7lqcNZQ&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_4eLPUrK4k&feature=related
 Under appreciated music artists - Fenlander
>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK7D7lqcNZQ&feature=related

Kid Creole was never my thing.... but I've always liked coconuts!
 Under appreciated music artists - Focusless
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK7D7lqcNZQ&feature=related

That's not a band - it's a full orchestra!
(I'll have a listen later, at home.)
Last edited by: Focus on Mon 19 Jul 10 at 11:12
 Under appreciated music artists - Zero
>> >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK7D7lqcNZQ&feature=related
>>
>> That's not a band - it's a full orchestra!

The full orchestra and choir was missing at Guildford (it will be back for his shows in london)
but the show I saw was all the better for its absence, the brass was much harder ( its very soft here) the rythm section was really pumped up. The coconuts without the choir had to really put the effort in to sing the background vocals while dancing and did it well. A much more strident and urgent performance really had the crowd jumping.

And hes not bad for a 60 year old, coconuts must be good for the health.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 19 Jul 10 at 11:33
 Cover Versions - Zero
Lets warp this thread a bit.

Cover version

Which is better here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94-kdMYAL0

or

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzKdRf4bS1Y
 Cover Versions - Focusless
>> Cover version
>>
>> Which is better here
>>
>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94-kdMYAL0

Much prefer this, the Evanescence original. I don't think Kathryn's voice really works in this context.

Cracking tune though, whoever sings it. There were a couple of others I liked on that album as well.
 Cover Versions - Focusless
>> There were a couple of others I liked on that album as well.

eg. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWioxDzDUpc
(album version - doesn't go 'rocky' towards the end)
 Cover Versions - Focusless
BBC R2 Radcliffe & Maconie did a feature on band Propaganda last week, who were on Trevor Horn's ZTT label in the 80s - they're biggest act was Frankie Goes To Hollywood.

I bought Propaganda's Secret Wish album when it came out, and hearing some of the tracks again reminded me how good they were. Fantastic production, but still had good tunes underneath.

Duel www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhYxLE8uCA

P.Machinery www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8G5AQpuxM

Dr Mabuse www.youtube.com/watch?v=jspBeVa0sTs

EDIT: sorry Z - just realised my last 2 posts don't tie in with the subject.
Last edited by: Focus on Mon 13 Sep 10 at 14:17
 Cover Versions - spamcan61
Oh gosh, how I hate that Katherine Jenkins version. I love her voice, but it sounds like she's just been handed the lyric and told to sing it. No passion, no emotion. The original is probably my favourite song of the last 10 years so I really don't like this somewhat Karaoke version.

In terms of covers versus original then 'all along the watchower' is a pretty close call IMHO between Hendrix and Dylan, I prefer (one of) the Byrds' cover of 'lay lady lay' to the Dylan original.
 Under appreciated music artists - Focusless
Heard this earlier on Radio 2 - sounded great, especially considering it's 30 years old:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SlWPQGMCfQ
(OMD - Messages)
 Under appreciated music artists - corax
Great track. I used to have that amongst many others on my cassette walkman on my way to my evening shelf filling job at the supermarket :-) The manager was a top man. He allowed us to direct the stereo at the mic on the front desk when the customers had gone so that the music would play all over the shop. God knows what he thought of our tastes. Joy Division, The Cure, U2, Prince, a real mix.
 Under appreciated music artists - helicopter
Following on from Smokies visit to the Crooked Billet to see Ben Waters as discussed above, did anyone spot the Telegraph Food Reviewers rave report about it last Saturday where it got a 9/10 mark.

tinyurl.com/35vdoqo

I wish I had gone now.....Ben Waters and top nosh, an irresitible combination.
 Under appreciated music artists - smokie
Well deserved, despite being outside my normal midweek price bracket...
 Chris Duarte - smokie
This guy is a superb blues/bluesrock guitarist. He does venture out of the US but I was lucky enough to see him in the Hogs Breath bar, Key West a few weeks ago on a slightly windy night which kept most people in. The bar contained his band, five or six hangers on, me and two buddies and the barmen. Absolutely superb.

www.hogsbreath.com/hogcam/stagecam.cfm for the venue (though the stage cam is dead at the moment)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkNwJLR-PEE&feature=related - a good quality sample of his work but there are plenty more on YouTube
 FFJ - Crankcase
Being very slow, I've only just discovered Florence Foster Jenkins. A breath of fresh air.

You can find her album "the Unbelievable Glory of the Human Voice" on, at least, Spotify or WE7.

Thank me later.
 FFJ - Iffy
...You can find her album "the Unbelievable Glory of the Human Voice" on, at least, Spotify or WE7...

Knowing you, it must be free. :)
 FFJ - Crankcase
Certainly it is.

Actually, I do pay my Spotify subs of a tenner a month to avoid the ads, and Mrs C has graciously given up chocolate to cover it.

She doesn't know this yet.
 FFJ - Clk Sec
>>She doesn't know this yet.

How are you at cooking your own breakfast?
 FFJ - Crankcase
Bless you, Mrs C doesn't cook!
 FFJ - CGNorwich
I love the quote from one of the musical critics of her time;


"only Mrs. Jenkins has perfected the art of giving added zest by improvising quarter tones, either above or below the original notes."
 FFJ - Crankcase
Turns out Cosme Moon, her accompanist, was able to transpose the music by whole fifths or more on the fly as required, repeatedly. Clever chap.
 FFJ - Focusless
Mmm....

www.we7.com/#/album/Florence-Foster-Jenkins/Florence-Foster-Jenkins
 FFJ - Clk Sec
>> Mmm....

+1
 FFJ - Manatee
>> Being very slow, I've only just discovered Florence Foster Jenkins. A breath of fresh air.
>>
>> You can find her album "the Unbelievable Glory of the Human Voice" on, at least,
>> Spotify or WE7.
>>
>> Thank me later.

Good recommendation Crankcase. I like nothing better than a side or two of Florence's while reading the poetry of William McGonagall.
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 FFJ - Crankcase
Cor blimey. I thought Robert Service was a struggle sometimes, but McGonagall's Tay Bridge one brings a tear, doesn't it.
 Carpkicking... - Armel Coussine
Heard part of an interview with a squeaky country & western songbird poppet on R4 this afternoon. I've already forgotten her name although it is very well known. But I have to confess a shameful taste for that redneck music.

The lyrics generally speaking - there are exceptions - possess a distasteful mixture of thuggishness, philistinism, self-pity and syrupy sentimentality, often laughably extreme. But the music very often swings wonderfully in its white-boy or -girl rural way, with some of the best guitar-twangers in the business and good singing too (lyrics apart). The word I think is 's h i tkicking' if I can get away with that.

The contrast between the exquisite musical and grossly annoying philosophic sensibilities reminds me of some Caribbean music. Toots and the Maytals for example who sing like angels but whose discourse can be dismayingly bleak (All over this land... Desolate ... Desolate ... etc.).

Just felt I had to get that off my chest. Basically I am a musical philistine. Can't stand most opera but have a soft spot for Wagner and Gilbert and Sullivan. But not even them in any quantity. I'd be hard put to sit through a whole one and wouldn't let myself in for it.
 Carpkicking... - Armel Coussine
EDIT: not a philistine perhaps. But my tastes in music run to the popular or vulgar rather than the high art end. There's no dividing line in reality.
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 Carpkicking... - CGNorwich
"self-pity and syrupy sentimentality, often laughably extreme."


Well they do say that if you play a country and western record backwards your dog comes home, your wife returns, your truck gets fixed and you win the lottery.
 Carpkicking... - Armel Coussine
Or: you miraculously recover your ability to walk, get your gun and put Julie in the ground, thus stopping her from taking her love anywhere actually.

Or: Leroy Brown after a short visit to a&e reverts to looking like a jigsaw puzzle with all its pieces still present and correct.

Or the Boy named Sue and the old crocodile make up and fall into each other's arms. 'I love you son.' 'I love you too dad. Never really fancied bein called Billy Joe no way. I kinda like dolls and dresses really.'

etc. etc. You have to remember the thuggish side along with the mawkish, CGN.
 Carpkicking... - CGNorwich

or Billy Joe MacAllister after surviving the 100 ft drop from Tallahatchie bridge crawls several miles through the Mississippi mud and all the way up Choctaw ridge to demand "why the hell did you throw my record collection off that damned bridge" and "you can tell your mother what she can do with those wretched black-eyed peas"
 Carpkicking... - Armel Coussine
Tee hee CGN ... seem like somethin goin right up on Choktaw Ridge...
 Carpkicking... - Zero
Old BJ was well named by her Mama
 Carpkicking... - Zero
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>> in its white-boy or -girl rural way, with some of the best guitar-twangers in the
>> business and good singing too (lyrics apart). The word I think is 's h i
>> tkicking' if I can get away with that.

Yeah, my friend in Phoenix, Rick, who wandered around his factory with two pearl handled lon his hip asked me which route I had arrived on. When I said from Flagstaff, he said

"Jeez godamn, thats a one horse sh itkicking town."
 Carpkicking... - Armel Coussine
Drove through Flagstaff Arizona, thinking about Winona, in the middle of the night in 1973, small hours, and stopped to get a coke out of a machine. A hitchhiker was with me, a sort of greaser on his way from LA to Dallas which he called 'a beautiful town'. Nice guy actually.

The whole town was asleep and there was no one about. While we were stuffing money in the coke machine a 7 litre Ford Ltd Sheriff's prowl car idled past and went round the corner, a big face eyeing us. We got back in the car and the greaser said, pointing to a nearby side street: 'He's gonna come out of that street.' Sure enough he did, and dawdled past us once again taking a good look but not stopping.

'Heh heh,' the greaser sniggered triumphantly. 'He don't know nothin about big cities like where we come from.'

Later we picked up another hitchhiker, a middle-class hippy from some northern city, Chicago perhaps, cat with granny specs and long hair a la John Lennon. He took a snobbish attitude to the greaser and clearly felt that he had more in common with me than that slightly rough working class chap, who carried a small razor blade in his wallet for protection - useless I thought. After we dropped the greaser at the Dallas turnoff he made these views clear. But after having him in the car for 24 hours I much preferred the greaser really. He had a good heart, which the hippy seemed to lack.
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