Non-motoring > Legal gravy train crash. Miscellaneous
Thread Author: Old Navy Replies: 7

 Legal gravy train crash. - Old Navy
If Abu Qatada gets shipped out to Jordan tomorrow, (2am from Northolt) there will be a lot of lawyers looking for the next human rights job.
 Legal gravy train crash. - R.P.
Not on legal aid they won't.
 Legal gravy train crash. - Westpig
Why do the Immigration Tribunal chairs (sorry judges) act so leniently? Is it a liberal person that aims for that role? Is the law so fudged that it's not their fault? Why do we have this constant battle?
 Legal gravy train crash. - Robbie34
I'd deport the judges as well, with his lawyers to follow.
 Legal gravy train crash. - Zero
I think thats what the Taliban do.
 Legal gravy train crash. - Manatee
>> Why do the Immigration Tribunal chairs (sorry judges) act so leniently? Is it a liberal
>> person that aims for that role? Is the law so fudged that it's not their
>> fault?

Maybe. I'd like to think the judges apply the law, rather than following popular opinion.
 Legal gravy train crash. - R.P.
Without the Judges the constitution in this country would crash and burn - don't wish it away.

Is that official UKIP policy Roger ?
Last edited by: R.P. on Sat 6 Jul 13 at 18:34
 Legal gravy train crash. - Bromptonaut
What we hear about Immigration Tribunal cases is heavily filtered. The cases that get reported are those that suit the agendas of press and/or press populist buttons with politicians. The run of the mill work is completely below the radar.

Plenty of foreign criminals appealing deportation on 'family life' grounds fail, even those with quite strong links to UK. Plenty asylum cases fail too.

The tribunal's biggest problem is the failure of the Home Office to learn from tribunal cases and get their decisions 'right first time'. Home office decision makers have too little time to consider cases properly and their work is target driven. If a case is 'too difficult' there's a tendency to refuse it and let the tribunal sort it out. Even for quite simple deficiencies in evidence.

The success rate before the tribunal is around 40%.

When the cases get to the tribunal the Home Office Presenting Officer (HOPO) is too often absent or clueless. The tribunal is therefore overloaded and the costs fall on the Tribunal Service rather than the Home Office. Attempts to extend a polluter pays principle have made some progress but do not yet solve the problem.

I could wrtie a similar essay about Social Security Tribunals as well.

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