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Thread Author: Bellboy	Replies: 47

New Thu 27 May 10 13:19   capitalism gone mad - Bellboy

cant even go to netto now without big business owning it i dispair news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10171193.stm Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 27 May 10 13:21   capitalism gone mad - Clk Sec

Asda be a good thing. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 27 May 10 16:36   capitalism gone mad - crocks

Every Lidl helps. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 27 May 10 13:40   capitalism gone mad - L'escargot

Just one cor-netto. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 27 May 10 18:20   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

...cant even go to netto now without big business owning it... Er, Netto is a near billion-pound business in the UK, and presumably has a large presence in its home country and elsewhere in Europe. It was hardly a corner shop even before Wal-Mart came calling. Reply to this message | Report message

New Thu 27 May 10 18:34   capitalism gone mad - RattleandSmoke

I think Netto alway struggeled to find a niche like Aldi and Lidl have done so I am not surprised by this. ASDA currently don't have any smaller 'local' supermarkets so this deal will give ASDA instant access to the convenience market. that Sainsburys, Tesco and CO-OP have cornered the market with. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 13:12   capitalism gone mad - FotheringtonTomas

They were not making enough money here, so they've flogged off their stores at a good rate. Prices will rise. Lidl will get some more customers, as will other supermarkets. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 13:28   capitalism gone mad - Bellboy

spot on FT i just hope the monopolies and sit on their hands object to this proposal Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 14:43   capitalism gone mad - CGNorwich

I really don't understand "discounter" supermarkets. We had a new Aldi open recently and it contains a weird selections of unknown brands packaged to look like the proper article and an aisle filled with what can only be described as tat. Have bought the odd bottle of beer and occasionally some fruit and vegetables, which were OK but not particularly cheap. Has strange omissions in its stock, for example popped in looked in for some flour the other day - they don't sell it. Didn't seem very popular either compared with the Somerfield/Co-op opposite. Don't think I will use it again Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 14:56   capitalism gone mad - Clk Sec

>>I really don't understand "discounter" supermarkets. I've never set foot in one and don't know of any in my area. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 16:03   capitalism gone mad - BiggerBadderDave

"I really don't understand "discounter" supermarkets" There are two near me, a Lidl and a Biedronka (Ladybird). The savings are substantial, generally 60 - 70% of Carrefour, Real and Tesco on many products. But yes, they do sell some odd tat and we do have to go to Carrefour for decent fresh meat and fish and one or two other things. Bols Vodka is 27zl compared to 46zl in other stores (and 50+ in offies) for example. Similar savings on beers and wines, bread and milk. Soft drinks. Toilet roll. I've saved a lot by using them although I was reluctant at first because I like my proper branded rich tea and digestive biskwits. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 16:44   capitalism gone mad - John H

>> I really don't understand "discounter" supermarkets. We had a new Aldi open recently and it >> contains a weird selections of unknown brands packaged to look like the proper article I take it you don't shop at Waitrose then. It is said that Aldi is the second shop that Waitrose customers go to. www.walletpop.co.uk/2010/01/28/tesco-asda-sainsburys-and-morrisons-disappoint-while-aldi-and/ www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/4229648/Aldi-and-Lidl-woo-middle-class-shoppers-as-Waitrose-loses-out.html Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 18:08   capitalism gone mad - CGNorwich

Actually we do shop at Waitrose, Cringleford branch every week, supplemented by our local bakers, our local farm shop and greengrocery on Norwich market. Have never believed in buying food solely on price and in fact the price differential between Waitrose and Sainsburys or Tesco is not a great as a lot of people believe . If Aldi believe their products are good why do they package them to look like the brand leader? Waitrose is still the fastest growing supermarket in the UK. www.retail-week.com/sectors/food/waitrose-still-uks-fastest-growing-supermarket/5012966.article Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 17:07   capitalism gone mad - FotheringtonTomas

>> Aldi >> popped in looked in for some flour the other day - they don't sell it. You must've walked past it without noticing. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 17:38   capitalism gone mad - kensitas

There's lidl to distinguish the difference between the 'budget' supermarkets - aldi you like them or you don't though (..ahem). My personal combo is Lidl & Waitrose - in one, some very good prices on some good quality items - Italian hard chesse, excellent free range egss & occasionally Italian 'co-op' produced tomatoes (grown on little hillside homesteads..) Waitrose, of course, do your high-end stuff when you're feeling flush - only problem are the snooty type of customer they tend to attract - yummy-mummy toxic blonde types Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 18:09   capitalism gone mad - CGNorwich

No - they don't sell it - I asked the manager. Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 20:12   capitalism gone mad - bathtub tom

Just had the most tender beef in a chilli-con-carne made by SWMBO with LIDL's meat. Had a tough old joint of topside from Tesco last weekend. We find LIDL's gammon joints to be excellent, although we have sometimes been disappointed with the quality of some of their other joints. I'd say they're better overall than the other supermarkets available in our area (no ALDI, Waitrose or Morrison's). Anyone else tried their Bavarian smoked ham? Reply to this message | Report message

New Fri 28 May 10 20:32   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

There's an Aldi and a Lidl not far from the caravan at Catterick. I think they do OK because a lot of the squaddies and their wives recognise the brands from serving in Germany. Most of the stuff I like, some I don't, which is the same as the other supermarkets. Anyone who thinks the food is inferior quality is a deluded snob. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 05:45   capitalism gone mad - Pat

Lorry drivers are watching this one with interest. We deliver into all the supermarket NDC's ( National Distribution Centres). Asda, Tesco, Waitrose, Morrisons and Sainsbury all have approx 50-100 unloading bays. We back on the bay and the Goods In staff use an electric pallet truck to unload the 26 pallets and check them. Most are fairly efficient but there can be delays of 4-6 hours at busy times because of shortage of staff and space in the warehouse. Aldi, Lidl and netto all use a different method and despite objections from some lorry drivers and their bosses, have insisted that if you're not happy to do this they will not by that suppliers product. They have a similar amount of bays, the driver backs the trailer on and then goes and swaps his lorry keys for the keys to the electric pallet truck and unloads himself. The pallets have to be put where they want them and in a neat straight line, turned a certain way round. The driver has to sign ( in some cases) to say they have recieved tuition in how to use the pallet truck, which consists of a 1 min chat to explain how to turn it on! The result is that 1 person can run an entire Goods In Dept, as opposed to a team of possibly 20/30 at Asda, to get the vehicles unloaded. Some lorry drivers feel they are not supposed to be doing a warehousemans job, and are doing other people out of a job. Others, like myself appreciate that I can tip and turn around 26 pallets in 45 minutes and be away, with some much appreciated exercise into the bargain. It does go some way to showing how they manage to keep their costs down though. So, the big question for us is will Asda go self tip, or will we get tipped at Netto's by goods in staff? Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 09:50   capitalism gone mad - Harleyman

>> >> Some lorry drivers feel they are not supposed to be doing a warehousemans job, and >> are doing other people out of a job. >> Others, like myself appreciate that I can tip and turn around 26 pallets in 45 >> minutes and be away, with some much appreciated exercise into the bargain. >> That as you know Pat is the major difference between drivers and "steering wheel attendants". I'd gladly put some of 'em on my job, only they'd not only refuse to unload the feed bags by hand ( a task which 75-year-old farmers help me with daily) but probably wouldn't be able to get near the farm in the first place, their idea of "tight" being the double-gated entrance to the RDC! I do think there is an issue on health and safety grounds; not so much for the risk of injury but the fact that in the event of an accident one side will inevitably blame the other and the driver will end up with no compensation if he does injure himself. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Sat 29 May 10 10:20   capitalism gone mad - Pat

I did pursue this with the HSE ( on behalf of our Members and not for myself!) and it appears your own employers insurance covers you to do anything he permits you to do while in his employment:) Having said that, I've had to re-stack a few pallets I've had over! Baked beans and Aldi Middleton spring to mind.:( I have to add, I shop at Tesco's and will continue to do so until Aldi/Lidl/Netto do a home delivery service! Pat Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 15:14   capitalism gone mad - MD

Tesco home delivery first class. Shops...Yuk! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 15:18   capitalism gone mad - BiggerBadderDave

"Shops...Yuk!" If I didn't go to the shops or do the school run, I wouldn't interact with another humans for months on end. Shops can be very sexually charged. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 17:48   capitalism gone mad - Zero

Having done work inside some of the larger Tesco and Asda NDCs. some of which are larger than the insdie of wembley, I would say you have no chance of having to load yourself in one of them. The supply chain distribution methods are far to complex to allow casual loading. The nettos will be rebranded as Asda local (or some such thing) and supplied from the nearest NDC. The old Netto distribution system will be closed down. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 17:54   capitalism gone mad - Zero

Question for you Pat, the new warehouse thats been built near the A47 at Wisbech near the old Wisbech to March railway branch. Whats that all about? it had very narrow isles and structures inside, clearly an automated picker system, but for who and what? Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 17:57   capitalism gone mad - Zero

Never mind, found it. Its an automated "lights out" cold store. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 18:00   capitalism gone mad - Zero

with a fascinating story behind it. The company building it went bust and this is why.... news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8284941.stm Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 18:25   capitalism gone mad - BiggerBadderDave

There's something odd about a man that answers his own posts 4 times in a row. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 20:18   capitalism gone mad - Zero

At least I wasnt deported to Poland. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 22:01   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

Poland is in the EU. BBD could not be deported, he would have to abjure the realm. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sat 29 May 10 23:41   capitalism gone mad - Ted

>> There's something odd about a man that answers his own posts 4 times in a >> row. I thought he was odd well before that, Dave ! I suppose it takes all sorts. Ted >> Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 10:22   capitalism gone mad - Zero

whats even madder is that BBD cant count. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 10:47   capitalism gone mad - BiggerBadderDave

Don't need to, I draw pictures all day long. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 10:58   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

If you drew Pictures of Matchstick Men, you could practise counting at the same time. tinyurl.com/34p2lan Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 11:04   capitalism gone mad - BiggerBadderDave

That made me laugh. I wasn't expecting Francis Rossi though, I was expecting that "sparking clogs outside the factory gates" song. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 11:09   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

...I was expecting that "sparking clogs outside the factory gates" song.... Happy to oblige: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnRX6_Txpaw Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 11:25   capitalism gone mad - L'escargot

>> I suppose it takes all sorts. It doesn't take all sorts. We just happen to have got all sorts! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 10:57   capitalism gone mad - Dog

>>There's something odd about a man that answers his own posts 4 times in a row<< It's the qwerty version of talking to yourself and usually precedes hairy palms. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 11:22   capitalism gone mad - Clk Sec

>>Happy to oblige: I Nice one! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 13:49   capitalism gone mad - Ted

Zero tolerance ??? Ted Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Sun 30 May 10 15:43   capitalism gone mad - MD

>> There's something odd about a man that answers his own posts 4 times in a >> row. >> He's neither odd or even! Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 15:49   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

But he could start a row in an empty room. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 15:55   capitalism gone mad - MD

>> But he could start a row in an empty room. >> Maybe, BUT often a source of much useful info'. Reply to this message | Report message       1

New Sun 30 May 10 15:58   capitalism gone mad - Iffy

Row as in 'o' or row as in 'how'? Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 16:08   capitalism gone mad - Zero

Oi, dont talk about me as tho I am not here. Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 21:36   capitalism gone mad - Ted

Ah, thought we'd manage to tease you out of your burrow ! :-) Ted Reply to this message | Report message

New Sun 30 May 10 22:00   capitalism gone mad - MD

>> >> Ah, thought we'd manage to tease you out of your burrow ! :-) >> >> Ted >> Let 'em go Z. They'll soon tyre (motoring link) Reply to this message | Report message

New Mon 31 May 10 06:02   capitalism gone mad - Pat

Sorry Z, I was away in Kent:) It seems you found your answer but it certainly is an eyesore, isn't it? Pat Reply to this message | Report message