Big brother watching us what is new.
They seem to manage chasing so called terrorist but can't stop child porn sites on the net strange.
Brave young man.
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I think he's an idiot. He joins the CIA and is horrified that they are a surveillance operation.
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clearly passed over for promotion. Now you know why.
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>> clearly passed over for promotion. Now you know why.
I think there is more to this than just a disgruntled employee or a whistleblower.
This guy wanted to blow the whistle, but wanted to be known as the guy who blew the whistle. In the age of information age celebrities, he probably wants the same level of fame as a Julian Assange or Bradley Manning.
Funny the risks that people will take to be a "somebody".
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>> I think he's an idiot. He joins the CIA and is horrified that they are
>> a surveillance operation.
A surveillance operation extending way beyond its remit and into the lives of ordinary US citizens. Law up to and including the Constitution treated as a policy to be exceeded on a nod rather than an unbreachable boundary.
But of course if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear.......
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>> A surveillance operation extending way beyond its remit and into the lives of ordinary US
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Not to mention, everyone else in the world.
All of your Google searches (and lists of people you've exchanged emails with) are in their database, too.
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Nothing wrong in the eye of who? When I grew up in the sixties students used to protest against all kinds of wrongs.I remember the riots in Amsterdam people protested agains a system they disagreed with.
There was a young man on the television talking about the unmanded drones killing people.
Lads behind a screen playing a video game.
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>> Lads behind a screen playing a video game.
As opposed to lads in a plane killing people? The difference is?
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>> There was a young man on the television talking about the unmanded drones killing people.
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>> Lads behind a screen playing a video game.
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What's with the mentioning of a toy and relating it UAVs? Is that what you actually think it is?
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>> There was a young man on the television talking about the unmanded drones killing people.
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>> Lads behind a screen playing a video game.
It is frequently claimed that killing via UAV is somehow cowardly and/or like playing a video game. Presumably the "video game" metaphor is often used to suggest that it is conducted in an indiscriminate way, with little thought for those on the receiving end.
I don't think any of that really stacks up.
Killing at a distance has long been a part of warfare. Artillery, then aircraft, the cruise missiles, then UAVs. At each step, the person pulling the trigger gets further away.
The military are there to do a job, and putting themselves in more danger than they need to be is no part of the job description. So this "cowardly" label misses the point.
A suicide bomber, blowing up innocent people on the tube would, perhaps be labelled as brave. A UAV operator blowing up people in Pakistan, who he believes to be terrorists, would be labelled a coward.
The guys who killed that soldier a couple of weeks ago, would by the same definition be brave, and the police, who did not go in without firearms and body armour, would be less brave than the killers.
The point is that UAV operators and armed police are there to achieve a goal, not to take on extra risk, just to be "brave".
As for UAVs being indiscriminate, they would, instead, seem to lend themselves to being more targeted than almost any other form of ranged attack.
The UAV can watch the target for potentially hours, gathering information (video, audio, phone calls) that can then be used by the command chain to make a decision. Then, from making the decision to hitting the target, is mere seconds, so there is much less time for the situation to change.
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>> >> I think he's an idiot. He joins the CIA and is horrified that they
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>> >> a surveillance operation.
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>> A surveillance operation extending way beyond its remit and into the lives of ordinary US
>> citizens. Law up to and including the Constitution treated as a policy to be exceeded
>> on a nod rather than an unbreachable boundary.
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>> But of course if you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear.......
Goodness me - I find myself agreeing with the mad cyclist:-)
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