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Last edited by: VxFan on Mon 8 Jul 13 at 01:17
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20886684
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East Kirby is well worth a visit.
Where else can you easily get almost within touching distance of a Lancaster with all four engines running.
All the original buildings are still nearby with lots and lots of displays of life at the time when the war was on.
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I see one can book a VIP day with a ride in the Lanc for £298. Well worth considering, I'm very tempted. Maybe I can have it as a 60th birthday present this year.
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Not sure this story is 100% accurate in respect of the flying condition. It has been reported before too.
I had heard from somewhere, so I'm not sure of the accuracy that there is a structural problem that prevents a certificate of airworthiness being granted. Hope this is codswallop and it will take to the skies again.
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I once spent a night on the airfield at East Kirby after loading out of one of the huge sheds they use for storage.
The loaders took great delight in telling me the airfield is haunted....I believed them and didn't sleep a wink all night!
Pat
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Official news here:
www.lincsaviation.co.uk/about/NX611-Just-Jane-Return-to-Flight.htm
A long term project with an unclear chance of success.
The Vulcan is a magnificent sight but I wonder if all that money could have been better spent on smaller projects such as this and Mike Collet's collection at Coventry. Would love to see the Twin Pin ambling around ther locality again.
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>> Official news here:
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>> www.lincsaviation.co.uk/about/NX611-Just-Jane-Return-to-Flight.htm
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>> A long term project with an unclear chance of success.
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>> The Vulcan is a magnificent sight but I wonder if all that money could have
>> been better spent on smaller projects such as this
If you have been under the vulcan roaring angrily at you you will know the answer is NO. Its been worth every cent. Catch it this year for the last time.
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>> If you have been under the vulcan roaring angrily at you you will know the
>> answer is NO. Its been worth every cent. Catch it this year for the last
>> time.
I have been on several occasions but remain unconvinced.
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The Arts Council spends £600m a year. Much of that is unnecessary. It's a fact that when funding is increased, costs go up, and when funding declines, they reduce and private funding tends to increase.
A good few years ago I shared a table at a wedding party with a freelance theatre director. He had recently been working with the Royal Opera House. He was appalled that over a million pounds worth of sets had been built and then rejected, essentially because the available funding allowed for another go at satisfying the famous director who was unhappy with the first lot.
The National Theatre, RSC, Royal Opera House and ENO got over £6m between them in November alone. A few quid at the Vulcan instead wouldn't be unreasonable. I don't especially dislike theatre and opera, it's just an example of what very large amounts are spent on.
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20942484
I think I'll wait till release 2 :-)
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20942484
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>> I think I'll wait till release 2 :-)
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It has the potential to do enormous financial damage to Boeing as well as the airlines which have ordered it (due to direct and indirect loss of revenue).
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Suggestions that it might be batteries.
Lots of concerns about batteries in cargo carried on aircraft.
Youtube has lots of clips of batteries igniting.
Surprising difficult to deal with a laptop fire in the cabin.
e.g. IIRC instinctive to use water to put out the flames but piling icecube on top can make things worse.
I am certainly more concerned on any long haul flights as to what is in the cargo.
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This year's Royal Institution Christmas lectures showed an interesting experiment where a burning torch was taken into a room containing just 15% oxygen. The torch went out while the presenter continued yakking on.
There's been lots of adverse comment about the poor quality of air in aircraft cabins, but what's the oxygen content? Could it be a good excuse for keeping oxygen low?
AFAIK only cargo holds containing live animals are pressurised and heated, so there's not much chance of a fire, usually.
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>>AFAIK only cargo holds containing live animals are pressurised and heated, so there's not much chance of a fire, usually.
Whole aircraft is pressurised. Heating is optional.
If you are worried then avoid the Youtube items.:-(
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>This year's Royal Institution Christmas lectures..
I love watching those.
>an interesting experiment where a burning torch was taken into a room containing just 15% oxygen.
The computer hall at the customer site where I work has an Inergen fire suppression system to create those conditions. The training and video about what to do if the thing goes off while you're in there was interesting but not something I'd like to experience first hand.
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20942484
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>> I think I'll wait till release 2 :-)
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Is that the facelift model. :-)
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aircraft are pressurised to the equivelent outside pressure that would be at around 8000 ft
if they were pressurized at normal sea level pressures they would burst at high cruising altitudes
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Wasn't the Everglades crash traced to a battery igniting in the hold..?
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>> Wasn't the Everglades crash traced to a battery igniting in the hold..?
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I think that one was an oxygen generator, (box of), in the hold. They were the ones used for the drop down masks in the cabin, they burn very hot ans cannot be extinguished, they just burn out. Submarines have a bigger version for emergency use, a couple of guys were killed a while back while testing one.
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There were two Everglades crashes, this was presumably the second involving a Value Jet DC9 . Oxygen generators stored in the hols allowed fire to spread.
The first was in the seventies and involved and Eastern Tristar. Crew pre occupied with a problem failed to monitor altitude.
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I have just checked Wiki, it was the DC9 that was brought down by oxygen generators in the hold as cargo.
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Someone on here asked about how smokey it got in the old days.
Last nights test run
vimeo.com/57117436
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Nice pics in Tuesday's Mail article 'Tunnelling into history: Amazing images show London houses being demolished to make way for the Tube in 1863, the world's first underground railway'
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259177/London-Underground-Amazing-images-houses-demolished-Tube-1863.html
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I still remember (as a 10yr old) when treated to 'a day in the office' the steam trains running on the Kings Cross (York Rd) Moorgate Branch. Cut and cover and VERY smokey! Going North the trains would often slip coming up the slope into KX just short of the tunnel exit, and the smoke on the platform would resemble any good night club enviroment. That clip looks like good clean steam - not black murky stuff.
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Just watched the vid - triggered a memory - a strip cartoon in Buster comic in the 60s - Charlie Peace - and a storyline that involved a steam powered underground train...
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Oh Dear, LU shunted Metropolitan Line Bo-Bo Electric Locomotive Number 12, Sarah Siddons, into the shed at Lille Road depot ready for the show this weekend, alas the shed roof was too low..... Sarah now has a sore head
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>> I still remember (as a 10yr old) when treated to 'a day in the office'
>> the steam trains running on the Kings Cross (York Rd) Moorgate Branch. Cut and cover
>> and VERY smokey! Going North the trains would often slip coming up the slope into
>> KX just short of the tunnel exit, and the smoke on the platform would resemble
>> any good night club enviroment. That clip looks like good clean steam - not black
>> murky stuff.
My father used to drive steam trains through the snow hill tunnel and into the underground smithfield depot. The meat was smoked alive!
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I saw one of these displaying at the East Lincs Aviation Heritage Centre (East Kirkby). Very slick design, very well flown and a fine looking device
tinyurl.com/awdq7n4
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Thank goodness for tinyurl The original URL was 4860 symbols!
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>> tinyurl.com/awdq7n4
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>> Thank goodness for tinyurl
...but it doesn't work for me :(
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You are SO right! I will try again or post the biggy! This should work - it is to a page of images rather than an individual one
tinyurl.com/aznqv52
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www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-train-fire-derailed-heritage-1237448
Poor old Class 47 no 500 derailed and caught fire today. It was hauling some Mk1 coaching stock to Carnforth that had been re-tyred. I have filmed 47500 quite a few times in the last year on the back of various steam excursions, and it has quite a history. Possibly a write off.
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Interesting documentary, 47 minutes for the insomniacs.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBozymv2QrU
Ted
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Horizon in its heyday could always be relied upon to provide some entertaining and informative documentaries. Here is a classic of its genre, some seriousness, some gritty black humour and irony, and being from 1972 is hopelessly out of date with its technical conclusions and future but enjoyable none the less.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxpBzGCKA0w&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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I have a real soft spot for Horizon in its heyday. A great find Zero, especially as there's no mention that it's Horizon at all in the metadata. Watched it now and whilst not really my subject, enjoyed it. I'd watch pretty much anything Paul Vaughan narrated though.
Thanks.
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Recent items in Railway Press suggest future outlook for preserved AC electric locos including 86 401 'Northampton Town' is poor.
www.electric-traction.co.uk/news.php
Insufficient charter or spot hire trade to keep them exercised on main line and impending costs to fit upgraded cab radio uneconomic to fund. No heritage railway as AC catenary for undertandable reasons.
Done more miles than I care to remember behind 86 and 87 classes. Great pity if they never get up to speed on main line again.
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Great locos, the cost to fit GSMR tho is a red herring, its not that dear or difficult and being fitted to most other heritage locos.
Problem is the "fuel". Much of Network Rail permanent way that goes to interesting and historic places has no OHLE, let alone preserved and heritage lines.
And of course no "cachet" to most, seen as the motive units that displaced more loved Diesel and Steam. And its this lack of flexibility and interest that has doomed them.
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A nice pair of Saddle Tanks.
www.flickr.com/photos/56047316@N03/7077417777/
Now you know why I go gricing.....
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How old do you reckon he was?
Just asking.
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Shameless plug for something I am involved in as a volunteer:
Sunday 26th May 2013
Bruntingthorpe Cold War Jets Day at Bruntingthorpe, Leics just off J20 M1. LE17 5QS
www.bruntingthorpeaviation.com/open-days/
We will be taxiing most of the aircraft collection: Nimrod, Lightning, Comet, Victor, Buccaneers, Canberra, Hunter, Jet Provost, L29 and Iskra. (All subject to serviceability)
Static aircraft: Super Guppy, Sea Vixen, VC10.
Spitfire flypast (very weather dependent)
Gates open 0900, first run at 1100
Admission: £15 Adults, Senior Citizens / Disabled £10, Accompanied Children 16 & under Free
Ear defenders or ear plugs strongly recommended as the crowdline is much closer to the action than a normal air show.
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Does the name Longueville mean anything to railway fans on here? Zed?
I was in Ile de France a few days ago and followed a tiny sign attached to a giant railway viaduct, about 60km south of Paris. I drove through a village and up a steep lane to find, to my amazement, a former SNCF express loco depot and working roundhouse, now apparently a volunteer-run museum.
It was, of course being France, closed but I could see odd glimpses of locos, including some steam, in the shed and the yard was full of old Pullman and other international express sleeper cars in various states of restoration/dilapidation.
I'd just be interested to know what on earth a depot like that was doing in what seemed to be the middle of nowhere and whether this museum is well-known.
I have photographic evidence if anyone is interested.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gare_de_Longueville
and poorly translated from French to English
ajectathefrenchsteam.unblog.fr/
All found with a simple Google search of longueville paris museum
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Thanks! I've only just got back and am still catching up...
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Wish I'd known about this last week instead of suffering Disneybland (sic).
Earmarked for next time. Not that I'm a Puffing Billy (as my old man used to call train loonies), but my nippers would love that.
:-)
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Indeed, plan to film SNCF 23K18, which is based there I believe,
www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=418699&nseq=1
In September, somewhere, as yet undecided, between Calais and Paris.
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Here's a couple of pix I snatched before the caretaker asked me if I knew what 'fermé' meant.
tinyurl.com/kqrjp92
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BoB class Tangmere was simmering gently at Willesden this morning waiting to take the Canterbury Belle forward having been diesel hauled down from Brum. Rolling stock was a 'West Coast' BR Mk1 set in sixties purple.
Is Zeddo out filming it by any chance?
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Yes, he likes to film his wife dogging behind the train station.
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>> BoB class Tangmere was simmering gently at Willesden this morning waiting to take the Canterbury
>> Belle forward having been diesel hauled down from Brum. Rolling stock was a 'West Coast'
>> BR Mk1 set in sixties purple.
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>> Is Zeddo out filming it by any chance?
Indeed, he filmed it in Charing & Minster in kent.
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>> Indeed, he filmed it in Charing & Minster in kent.
Linky?
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Excellent! - best one yet IMO, I liked the way the loco changed tracks and wormed its way through.
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>>and wormed its way through
Snaked :)
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You like snaking Dog? try this one I shot on Monday
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw5BviqfXDI
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Neat! - great sound too through my Monitor Audio Bronze B2's
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I got a new external mic, just fir you
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Thought it was different - great stereo effect.
Nice hobby ... better than golf.
:-))
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very nice Z especially the second set over the points, keep them coming.
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I guess you have probably not seen my scoop.
Bittern doing a network rail test (testing hammer bow over structures - in this case Maidenhead bridge where they had installed sensors) prior to allowing 90mph running up the East Coast Main line, as part of the celebrations for Mallards world steam record 75 years ago.
Bittern at (now confirmed) 96MPH as it first appeared - about 92 mph as it passed.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=me1OfEEKk3I
That bit of video has been requested for and will be included on a commercial DVD about the record and the celebrations, available for purchase later this year.
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Good one I knew the test was planned but missed the date well done, great video
Are you planning to go to see the 6 in York?
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>> Good one I knew the test was planned but missed the date well done, great
>> video
>> Are you planning to go to see the 6 in York?
No, thats going to be a real scrum, however there is a last farewell at Shildon next february before the two go back overseas, that may be a better bet.
I am pondering getting as close as I can to stoke bank for one of the mainline runs, but it has to be a North to South run. The first 90mph run will be at the end of this month, but thats South to North.
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are these runs listed on uksteam.info or another site
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Train Spotters are a pain in the backside
Been hounded by them this week asking daft questions there nearly as annoying as drivers!!
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 19 Jun 13 at 12:42
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and you are just a miserable old farty fitter.
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>> Train Spotters are a pain in the backside
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>> Been hounded by them this week asking daft questions there nearly as annoying as drivers!!
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One thread in a whole site is hardly a world takeover
Last edited by: VxFan on Wed 19 Jun 13 at 12:42
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The fast runs are listed on UK steam info, and we now have access to Network Rail live running data, with precise times, paths and real time tracking.
Whats not listed is where on the routes the 90mph will be achieved, this you have to work out from past runs, track conditions, other traffic, watering stops, Stoke Bank south is almost guaranteed.
Fly in the ointment. We need rain two or three days before the event. If its dry they will be limited due to line side fire risk.
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>> We need rain two or three days before the event<<
I can see you now..doing a rain dance in leafy Surrey while I sit on a wet cliff top.
I told Ian it was your fault.
Pat
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watcha moanin about, its hot rain.
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It's wet rain.....and dancing naked around the Hurlers at dawn tomorrow morning may be dodgy now.
Pat
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Nother 10 years of this blimmin weather m8, I'd go 'abroad' next year if I were thee.
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"Nother 10 years of this blimmin weather m8, I'd go 'abroad' next year if I were thee."
Not sure that's the answer. Flying to Calgary tomorrow and planning to drive through the Rockies to Vancouver via Banff and Jasper.
Just heard that Highway 1 closed both ways due to torrential rain flooding and mudslides.
Just look at this lot!
www.ctvnews.ca/canada/pictures-and-videos-of-flooding-in-canmore-alberta-1.1334613
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Sun spots, solar flares, Artic ice melt or whatever, the weather is up the creek and not just here of course.
Have a nice one anyway CG, my friend the leather craftsman spent much time in that area many moons ago jumping freight trains, living with Yellow Knife injuns, working in Uranium mines.
His brother still lives out the up in the Rockies carving out a career as a wood craftsman.
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>> working in
>> Uranium mines.
He might light up the pub when he walks in.
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>>He might light up the pub when he walks in
He'd have a job Zed - he's brown bread ... prostate cancer!
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I liked Jasper, I was there in the spring, (Skiing). At least you won't have to keep an eye out for grumpy hungry just out of bed (hibernation) bears. Its a bit of a shock to meet a Moose munching the grass outside your motel room when leaving for breakfast. Also don't get caught at the level crossing, a 100 car 4 loco freight train takes an age to pass when moving off from the sidings. :-)
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thats why so many american truckies try to jump the X-ing before the train arrives. Plenty of video on the tube of the "semeye" subsequently being cut in half.
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Doesn't look good for my tripa at the moment. Highway looks completely washed out.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IbrPIsLyg
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you'll be ok as long as you don't want to come off at offramp 91
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>>Highway looks completely washed out.
Reminds me of Cornwall, CG.
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>>Doesn't look good for my trip at the moment.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23000926
getting worse
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Hey Doggie, slap this yun through your speakers
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYL8uKz2_II
Check out that loose headlight dancing to the cylinder thrusts.
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Grrreat! - I'm at my desk with the speakers just 1m away and wound right up, it's quite exhilarating so I can just imagine what it's like to be there.
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>> Grrreat! - I'm at my desk with the speakers just 1m away and wound right
>> up, it's quite exhilarating so I can just imagine what it's like to be there.
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It was wet.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdWw6pnNrkw
This is SR Light Pacific, Battle of Britain class 34067 Tangmere on the Canterbury Belle, filmed today.
I thought I would start a "How steam tours run and operate" series. This is the planned water stop in the down sidings at Lenham in Kent. Careful research and planning went into the making of this video, even to the extent of talking to local railway staff before the event. Railway videographers of course have to cope with the unexpected......
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WKD! - e'e does a brilliant job of em (said the missus) wassaname of that classical music piece?
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Have you tried Shazaming it?
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I've found the ideal property for you [Steam Trains Run in Summer]
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-35833901.html
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I see that they have brought all 6 surviving A4 locomotives to York starting tomorrow for two weeks. Only three of them still actually run of course.
So whilst it's still open and free, a trip to the National Railway Museum, York, from 3-17 July might interest some on here.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23137106
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Plenty of opportunities over the next 8 months the transatlantic ones leave in Feb 2014. NRM are milking it while they can, all 6 won't be there all the time, however.
Going up on 12 July for early morning photoshoot as part of a longer visit
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Bittern hit 93mph (Newark Northgate station) on its way up there on Saturday, the first of the 90mph runs. The NRM will be a right ole scrum unless well planned as Commeerdriver seems to have done. The best view I suspect will be at Shildon in february before they return.
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Was at NRM fairly early on Saturday morning, three A4s were in the main hall, with plenty of room around them. It looks like Mallard itself will have pride of place on the turntable.
I'll be there again next week - again, an early morning visit.
My excuse for frequent visits is that it's all for Number_Nipper's benefit!
Barrow Hill is an interesting visit - not worth travelling too far for, and don't go in new/expensive clothes!
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I'll be there on the 15th, but won't have a clue at what I'm looking at. All for marital harmony.
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I am sure you'd recognise the shape of the Mallard.
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You even have a a 1 in 6 chance of guessing which is or 1 in 4 if you remember Mallard is blue
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Easier than that, three of them smell smokey, three dont. Mallard is the blue one that dont.
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I've made notes guys. Thanks. A shapely blue smoker is a duck. Got it. No wait. The duck doesn't smoke...
Trains is so confusing.
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More confusing there are 2 blue ones that don't smoke one has a big long nameplate Mallard is the one with a short nameplate , don't get started on the numbers
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>>The duck doesn't smoke
Just to further confuse the issue: www.rannochsmokery.co.uk/smoked-duck-recipes
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Another flying Lancaster ! - R.P.