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 Tue 2 Oct 12 21:37 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Harleyman
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19806014

I allowed myself a little chortle when I read the name of Scargill's QC; the whole story's ludicrous enough but surely one of them must have realised....
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 Tue 2 Oct 12 21:41 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Fullchat
The Judge - 'Mr Justice Underhill'
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 Tue 2 Oct 12 21:42 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - MD
It should be the Weasel Scargill under the hill.
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 Tue 2 Oct 12 22:31 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - mikeyb
Think Scargill did more for Thatchers carear than anything else.

Often thought that he had his hand in the till, but this kind of justifies my thoughts on the individual
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 Tue 2 Oct 12 22:32 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Bromptonaut
Who's paying for Tim Pitt-Payne? He ain't cheap.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 06:52 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - hjd
Many years ago the firm I worked for audited the NUM.
I have been to their Durham palatial offices and seen the style in which the union staff worked and the amount of money they wasted.
The money they are paying out for Scargill now would have been more like petty cash to them then.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 06:56 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - madf
Mr Scargill was of course an agent of the British Gov't.

He warned his members the Gov't was out to destroy the mining industry..

And then did his best to help...
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 09:40 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - L'escargot
I suspect that most of the derogatory comments about Arthur Scargill in this thread will be
from people who have never needed the protection of trade union membership.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 09:44 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Zero
>> I suspect that most of the derogatory comments about Arthur Scargill in this thread will
>> be
>> from people who have never needed the protection of trade union membership.

Didnt he do well for his members. Kinda protection I could do without.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 09:52 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - madf
If protection menas losing your jobs.. (See SOGAT and others),, then I'll pass.

See also UNITE doing their best to ensure the NHS is privatised.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 10:21 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Harleyman
>> I suspect that most of the derogatory comments about Arthur Scargill in this thread will
>> be
>> from people who have never needed the protection of trade union membership.
>>

Paid-up member old chap. It might seem to go against my political instincts, and it irks me that the union I have to subscribe to is one of Labour's main bankrollers, but at factory floor level unions are needed to keep management honest. Scargill is a populist maverick who happened to be credible at the time of the miners strike, and has dined out on it ever since.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 11:47 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Dutchie
I wonder why new mines are not opened again.There is still plenty of coal underground in Yorkshire.Most of our coal is inported from Poland.

The miners where on a loser after defeating Ted Heath.Coal was stored in Rotterdam previous to the strike and they got no backing from the powerstations.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 12:00 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Falkirk Bairn
>> I wonder why new mines are not opened again.There is still plenty of coal underground
>> in Yorkshire.Most of our coal is inported from Poland.
>>
Megabucks to open new deep mines and current mine owners are making little / losing money. Even opencast mines are struggling to match Polish/South American prices
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 12:08 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Lygonos
Eventually economics will take hold and British coal will be economic to produce again.

There are hundreds of years of reserves beneath our feet.

Deep mining, however, is a very grim job and I'd not be surprised in 50 years if people looked back on it in the same way as we look at sending wee boys up chimneys in Victorian times.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 12:13 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Harleyman
>> Deep mining, however, is a very grim job and I'd not be surprised in 50
>> years if people looked back on it in the same way as we look at
>> sending wee boys up chimneys in Victorian times.
>>

The difference being that there isn't a National Union of Junior Chimneysweeps in every Welsh valley and Yorkshire dale constantly banging on about how good it was to be covered in soot every day, and how we should bring back open fires to keep them in work.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 13:59 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Cliff Pope

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>> The difference being that there isn't a National Union of Junior Chimneysweeps in every Welsh
>> valley
>>

Or not so junior. I climbed up inside our cottage big chimney only a few weeks ago to fit an insulated chimney liner for a woodburning stove. It's about six feet across at the bottom, but gets horribly claustrophobic near the top.

I love the line in Mary Poppins "That's just good clean soot Michael".
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 16:14 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Lygonos
I hope you kept your jockeys on - I see to recall one of the earliest observations that led to the science of epidemiology (the study of causes of disease in populations) noted that chimney-boys had a very high incidence of scrotum cancers as a result of going up the chimneys naked.

Or something like that.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 18:01 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - CGNorwich
Ah, Sir Percivall Pott's ground breaking work on soot warts.


(wonderful thing google)
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 12:09 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - Bromptonaut
This country's balance of payements record is abysmal and worsening. At some point we may need to substitute 'home grown' even if it seems more expensive.

Exactly what happened in the post war austerity period. Dollars were rationed by the treasury.
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 Wed 3 Oct 12 19:39 
 Scargill still trying to bankrupt the NUM - mikeyb
>> I suspect that most of the derogatory comments about Arthur Scargill in this thread will
>> be
>> from people who have never needed the protection of trade union membership.
>>

A small number of my colleagues (the minority) are union members. I've seen the "support" that they have been given and I would want to be compensated for it, not paying for it.

They also have a magic ability to create hysteria amongst their members over any change the company want to make.
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