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Ongoing Games chat.
Last edited by: VxFan on Tue 31 Jul 12 at 21:22
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Tickets for sale are still appearing on the official UK site.
My daughter is hammering the site ( without luck to date) and friends have been lucky thus obtaining some for popular events.
I suspect my daughter is also still monitoring other official sites ( where her athletics tickets were obtained ).
I have been keeping watch too and came across this scrollable table.
www.london2012.com/spectators/tickets/ticket-checker/
A significantly long list of dodgy sites. Someone is always out to con the unwary.
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I didn't watch the whole programme so I've decided to watch it a bit at a time. tinyurl.com/d9kga3a
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Apparently some yanks think that IKB was Abe Lincoln and assumed that He who must not be named, was actually a mutant baby produced by a state health service.
One yank commented, "why would anyone celebrate medicaid" THey just don't get universal health care the yanks.
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Watched the men's road race today.
Cycled to Weybridge to see the early part. Breakaway group of about 20 who were 3 or 4 minutes in front of the peleton. Large crowds.
Back home to watch Sky Freesat on channel 452. Some good shots, but lots of views of tops of trees. appalling commentary with long periods of silence, they didn't have a clue what was going on.
Went into Esher town centre to watch the later stages. Huge crowds. Back home again to see the finish.
I thought it should have been handed over to the Tour de France people to let them handle the TV coverage and race commentary.
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...they didn't have a clue what was going on...
I watched some of it on BBC3 and thought the same.
I read somewhere the commentators were not being supplied with much data, so all they had to go on at times was the TV picture we were watching.
Did our riders may have the same lack of data problem?
They seemed almost oblivious to the riders up ahead who were getting away.
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>> I read somewhere the commentators were not being supplied with much data, so all they
>> had to go on at times was the TV picture we were watching.
Here? :)
www.car4play.com/forum/post/index.htm?t=11406&m=253192&v=e
>> Did our riders may have the same lack of data problem?
Yes - they weren't allowed radios, which they are in the Tour (and others presumably).
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Been away for 10 days! Just revisiting older comments on fitness levels. There was a discussion re Bradley Wiggins - just over 8 stone and only 4% body fat! I wish!
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>> Back home to watch Sky Freesat on channel 452. Some good shots, but lots of
>> views of tops of trees. appalling commentary with long periods of silence, they didn't have
>> a clue what was going on.
The BBC used Hugh Porter, who used to do the commentary for the Tour when it used to be on Channel 4 I think; don't know if he still does it for ITV3(?). And he was helped by Chris Boardman. I thought they did a decent job given the lack of information.
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I too watched a fair bit of the cycling. They did point out that the teams were without radios, and knew that they would be, and at one point there was a Team GB car showing our boys a whiteboard with info, which they said every team should have thought to do.
I really can't understand the lack of info. Nephew ran in some marathon recently (New York?) and was "chipped" so you could follow his progress on the internet - why they didn't do that is beyond me - that would have given the commentators (and us) an accurate view of the relative positions and speed etc instead of the guesswork that we all had to rely on. They do something similar in horse racing too.
Watched some swimming and archery too, and of course some beach volleyball - was amazed at the size of the stands in Horseguards.
In general there seemed to be quite few empty seats at most events, the Beeb said they were largely in the press and other freebie areas. - Certainly at the swimming the really high-up seats (probably the paying general public) seemed pretty full.
Watched the first hour or so then the end of the opening ceremony, which was impressive.
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The TV coverage was provided by the OBS. The Olympic Broadcasting System. This is a system where countries are made responsible for individual events and pool the video feed. Korean TV for example do Badminton, where the BBC do Soccer.
The Belgians are to blame for the poor info provided on the road cycling apparently.
I have an "all technical areas" pass. To get behind the scenes into the technology areas is fascinating. AT my venue the techies in charge of all the event sound and video equipment ( a curtained off area with kit racked in a mini scaffold tower) sleep in hammocks strung underneath the tower.
I also have an all operational areas pass. I was sat next to the Met police bonze commander yesterday when he knocked his coffee over his briefing notes. Pity the radio wasn't on when he uttered a string of expletives.
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...Met police bonze commander...
Zeddo meant 'bronze' - police forces tend to use the medal hierarchy for public events.
The bronze copper is usually at the event, silver back at the nick/ops or comms room, and gold, well, you only rattle his cage after a bomb has gone off.
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Just heard the commentators in the women's race mention that they use electric gears, or more accurately electric shifters - they just push a button to change gear. Never heard of that before.
www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/shimano-showcases-the-ultegra-di2-electronic-bike-gears-we-go-f/
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>> that's what was so impressive.<<
>>We weren't able to watch it last night, but from what we've heard from others it was truly spectacular. Mrs CS has it taped, so I'll be opening a bottle of Merlot within the next hour or so.<<
Thoroughly enjoyable and so well organised. The best bit of telly I've seen in a long while.
I quite envy AlistairW and Zero's involvement.
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Heavy rain showers down here in Surrey. Just got caught in one, looking at the course its raising the oil and grease a bit on the road which has no traffic on it to wash it away. - expect some spills on the Womens road race.
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>>Heavy rain showers ...
S'alright, softens the dead flies on the front of the car. Wash it after. Sorted.
:-)
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We don't have flies in Surrey.
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Yes you blinking do. It was on a "spirited" run to Brighton and back last week I collected most of the ones on mine.
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Nit picking. Sarf innit? Anyway, more like you can't get that Lancer up to enough speed to kill any...
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>> Nit picking. Sarf innit? Anyway, more like you can't get that Lancer up to enough
>> speed to kill any...
Mind you they did reckon the last time the Panzers were likely to be in Southern England they would have got lost, looks like they were not wrong.
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All looks the same to me. All Volvos, tofu and blokes holding hands as far as I can see.
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Not at the moment, they are all sheltering under brollies. - Its hammering it down.
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S'pose that's the trouble with being so close to the tropics.
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>> All looks the same to me. All Volvos, tofu and blokes holding hands as far
>> as I can see.
Didn't you have a Volvo?
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Well, they say you should try everything once. I tried it twice.
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>> Well, they say you should try everything once. I tried it twice.
...except incest & folk dancing, according to Arnold Bax IIRC.
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>> Yes you blinking do. It was on a "spirited" run to Brighton and back last
>> week I collected most of the ones on mine.
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On your what? Face, chest, .......... ? (This is the non-motoring section!)
:-)
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I like to challenge convention...
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The world long jump record is 8.95 metres. Get a tape and measure it.
Holy cow!!!
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>> I thought they did a decent job given the lack of information.
A couple of lines in Metro this morning saying that the lack of race information was due to all the crowds en-route Twittering and overloading 'the network'. Is that likely/possible Z?
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>> A couple of lines in Metro (EDIT: in the paper, more online)
www.metro.co.uk/olympics/906673-london-2012-too-much-tweeting-blamed-for-poor-road-race-coverage
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...Is that likely/possible Z?...
I blame people uploading resource heavy HD footage to Youtube.
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>> ...Is that likely/possible Z?...
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>> I blame people uploading resource heavy HD footage to Youtube.
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Elsewhere I saw someone suggesting it might be the opposite problem. He was watching the race and noticed that many in the crowd around him were watching the video feed on their tablets and phones, rather than just looking at what was going on in front of them.
Most of 'em were complainingbleating about buffering, jerky video, etc too....
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TeeCee that was a joke reference to Z uploading his videos to youtube - which he doesn't do from his mobile.
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>> >> I thought they did a decent job given the lack of information.
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>> A couple of lines in Metro this morning saying that the lack of race information
>> was due to all the crowds en-route Twittering and overloading 'the network'. Is that likely/possible
>> Z?
Yeah entirely possible - we have a closed tetra cell system here for radio comms
The road events outside London don't
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Just seen the BBC intro to the fencing and was invited to look out for the flunge.
No explanation was forthcoming just a visual dive forward with a blade.
Conclusion I came to is it's two words merged like chillax though I suspect the first is not the one I'm thinking...
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n. A fencing technique that combines a lunge (a common offensive footwork) with a fleche (a popular pre-90s footwork that became illegal following the 1988 Seoul Olympics) in order to maximize reach and minimize time of the attack. When properly executed, a flunge can transport a fencer in a distance far greater than any normal footwork would.
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>> Just seen the BBC intro to the fencing and was invited to look out for
>> the flunge.
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>> No explanation was forthcoming just a visual dive forward with a blade.
Take your pick of which definition you prefer. tinyurl.com/2ujlkso
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What a cracker. Excellent race. Well done Lizzie.
Saw the start on TV, then wandered out to the village to watch them come through, coffee and bacon roll in Costa, then wandered back to see the last hour on the Tele.
Great atmosphere along the route, the police outriders were enjoying themselves (one standing on his foot pegs, no hands on the bars!)
Enjoyable morning.
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>> What a cracker. Excellent race. Well done Lizzie.
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Yep, that was a fantastic event. Women's racing can often be a bit negative and boring but they excelled themselves today.
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>>Well done Lizzie.
Absolutely !
( Northern lass y'know...)
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>> ( Northern lass y'know...)
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You'd never think so though, no moustache.
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Now you see, she cycled through Surrey, not covered in flies.
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>> cycled through Surrey, not covered in flies.
Soaked to the skin and plastered in mud though. Seemed a charming girl too when she recovered her breath.
Let us not forget the gold winner though. Not bad for a big strong girl from a small country eh Dutchie? The Russian bronze (or bonze if Zero prefers it) also outrode herself by accounts.
I didn't find it annoying exactly because it takes all sorts, but surely the Beeb must have tried to persuade the main commentator not to say 'theirselves' all the time?
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...and sober on a Sunday afternoon what's more !
Edit - That has inspired me to get out on my bike now.
Got to go to the Spar shop for some spuds...
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Sun 29 Jul 12 at 15:55
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Our Lizzie looks well fit which will stand her in good stead when it comes to getting sponsorships and endorsements on the back of the medal.
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I saw both the above when I ran it through a search engine.
The wikipedia one needs updating or the BBC do. If it was made illegal after the Seoul Olympics why would I look out for it now ?
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BTW gmac you can blame Z for splitting up the Flunge subject and causing your post to be separated from the others :)
Last edited by: Focus on Sun 29 Jul 12 at 17:51
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We'll see what happens when we start throwing random titles at posts :-)
When he said "Well done Lizzie" I thought Queenie had got the 'lympic bug and carried from the helicopter nicking someone's bike.
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Anyone else watching the womens beach volleyball?
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Nah, too much sport to watch :)
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FB friends from school are discussing whether Lizzie's medal is Yorkshire's first or if Otley has a more specific claim!!
Last edited by: Bromptonaut on Sun 29 Jul 12 at 20:02
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Rhythmic gymnastics does it for me - whatever "it" is.
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check out the team rhythmic gymnastics - find a clip on youtube. Its actually quite good.
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And here is a small vid I made of the Ladies road race standing on the wall outside the pub in West Byfleet as they went past.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAOrjnanjg
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Great post Z, what a cracking atmosphere.
If you get to see the TT it should be even better when Wiggins goes by.
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Better take that one down Z.
Mercedes-Benz, Ford, Citroën and Vauxhall all wearing non-official sponsors of the Olympics badges from 4:04 onwards. Looks like someone sneaked in off a side road for some product placement.
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>> Better take that one down Z.
>> Mercedes-Benz, Ford, Citroën and Vauxhall all wearing non-official sponsors of the Olympics badges from 4:04
>> onwards. Looks like someone sneaked in off a side road for some product placement.
There is also an unproved supplier of fuel at the start, and at the end, Harvester is most definitely not a McDonalds.
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As a broadcaster where is the equal representation ?
We had 3 minutes of BMW product placement, where was the tax payers £9bn worth ? ;-)
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What software did you use for edits in the video?
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This one is done on the Macbook air, so using iMovie.
I missed a fade transition between clips tho.
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Great footage, I watched a fair bit of the cycling and was saying to SWMBO that there must be a fair amount of pre- and post- peleton which we didn't see.
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>> Great footage, I watched a fair bit of the cycling and was saying to SWMBO
>> that there must be a fair amount of pre- and post- peleton which we didn't see.
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Lots of boring BMW cars. At least they had the traditional broom wagon ( I always think there should be a big sign on its rear "THE end".)
It all looked so sanitised compared with the TDF stages in the UK.
This time I did not venture out to see them on the way back partly due to the awful weather.
Zero Thanks for your footage. Quite a different view on the straight compared with my view point on a roundabout.
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>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAOrjnanjg
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I didn't see any ladies. I got bored after about 3 minutes of watching motorcycles go past and switched it off.
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Cycled out and round part of the course yesterday (Sunday), went to Clandon and stopped at the bottom of Staple Lane, did a recce and then back home.
Watched the first part of the women's race on telly, then went into Esher to see them go through. Large crowds, everybody in very good humour. As soon as the racers went past, the heavens opened! Back home again to watch the rest of the race on TV.
A good race, a shame that the British women couldn't get the gold.
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The bike race was exciting good sprint between the Yorkshire lass and the Dutch girl.The Dutch girl is distant family on my mothers side what a small world.>:)
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OOLYMPICS FACT: For the duration of London 2012, only LOCOG approved sponsors can answer their phones after 5 rings.
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Why the ironic cheer at 1:10, did plod fall off his bike?
What chance of a new M25 circumnavigation record with all the BIBs employed elsewhere?
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>> Why the ironic cheer at 1:10, did plod fall off his bike?
That was where plod did the stand up on his footpegs and took his hands off the handlebars
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Argh! If you want to start a new subject, reply to the post at the top, otherwise all the posts get mixed up (see above). Oh well, too late for this volume I suppose :)
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I am trying to find out the start times for various cyclists at the time trial on Wednesday.
Anybody any idea where the start times might be found?
I know what time the first man goes and the first woman, but I wish to find individuals times.
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AFAIK names and times have not been drawn yet
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Never been compared to an athlete before, but hey ho. There are 4 competitors similar to me, apparently.
Another of those BBC time-wasters we all love so much.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19050139
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Yes, I tried that - I'm very similar to one of the French swimmers. She's quite good looking too :)
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tinyurl.com/bls5s5f is my nearest lookalike..
(Apart from 40 years, a sex change, and more hair, I think we're very similar :-)
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Nearest match is at least a cyclist but female and young enough to be my daughter:
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/athletes/23c70519-5f33-4e43-9976-362935a5f5de
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Oh dear. Chinese woman shot putter for me.
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A Russian and Croatian wrestlers for me, which shows I'm still too heavy even though I've lost over 6Kg since April!
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Is that a polite way of telling us you like to stick your oar in ? ;-)
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That explains how you managed to give the police a load of gondoliers.
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Well the Olympic athlete I am most like is Andrew Simpson of Team GB -
Won Olympic Gold in the Star class sailing in Beijing with Ian Percy ...
I 'm happy with that........
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The one I`m most like is Homer Simpson - Gold Medal Doughnut eating!
It was that Female Hungarian shot-putter actually ;-(
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I am watching the archery at the moment. The announcer sounds like the demented loons who announce darts scores and whenever there is no actual shooting going on there is utterly grisly thumpy disco music being played. Is this being dubbed in at the studio for the benefit of the TV audience or is it actually being played live at the venue. Either way it is a waste of time and effort and very off-putting to anyone who isn't a disco teenager!
Amazing to see how much arrow whips in flight - there are occasional slo-mo shots and the arrow is whipping like a swimming snake. Lucy to hit the whole target never mind score the odd 10!
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Are you watching TV rather than over t'internet Meldrew? The latter seems ok - restrained commentators and no music, at the moment anyway.
EDIT: the male commentator is the chap who does the 6 Nations (rugby) I think
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Ah, now the match(?) has finished the music's started. But disco? It's only Coldplay - you need to get out more :)
If I was sitting in a draughty wet Lords waiting for something to happen I would be glad of any distractions!
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Choose your own distractions on an ipod. I don't want the BEEB's music jammed into my ears!
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No -I am watching live TV Chnl 454 and like so much of the all BBC's coverage I am forced to do without the sound and make use of subtitles where available. I do NOT require music with everything and that includes plays, documentaries, and most sport!
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Are you saying the BBC are adding music to their TV coverage? Because in their internet stream the only music I heard was coming over the speakers at Lords.
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No I am asking - it is coming out of my TV but I do not know whether it is added at Beeb Central or coming out of speakers at the venue and thus into the live broadcast. Wherever it is coming from I wish they wouldn't do it!
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They have interlude music at many sports these days, and sometimes "dancers" too (see beach volleyball). I suspect it's being broadcast locally.
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A lot of the music clipped onto events is pretty naff, just as a lot of movie music is intrusive and annoying... Da da-DAAAA! Why bother? We've already seen the murderer creeping up with the knife. Tchah!
The area behind our house, which for months resembled a WW1 battlefield, has more recently been drained, levelled and rolled. Today blokes are unrolling turf and laying it there. It will be a great improvement.
But for some reason this process reminds me of something I have seen recently on TV. What could it be?
:o}
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Careful comparison between what is coming out of the TV and what is coming out of Iplayer with a 20 second delay suggests that the TV is having music added somewhere but that it is not audible to the audience at the live event. What a relief for them!
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>> Amazing to see how much arrow whips in flight - there are occasional slo-mo shots
>> and the arrow is whipping like a swimming snake. Lucy to hit the whole target
>> never mind score the odd 10!
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Nothing compared to the real thing. You should see how a more flexible wooden arrow with a heavy, iron bodkin head shot from a longbow behaves. The back end of the arrow sets off as the string is released, but the head doesn't until the arrow has "wound up" by a significant amount behind it. By that time, somewhere around a quarter to a third of the string's travel has already happened and the arrow's got a serious bend in it. The thing then proceeds through the air, whipping back and forth like an enraged viper.
Oddly it's that regular oscillation that provides a great deal of the flight stability. You'd actually be far less likely to hit the target if they didn't do this.
The other factor at work here is that the winding up of the "springiness" in the shaft serves to spread the force required to accelerate the heavy arrowhead over time and massively reduces the stress on the bow and its string.
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Oh for goodness sake Meldrew replied to the wrong message (and changed the subject)
Sorted. Can't remember how to do italics. Smokie :-)
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It's all that music, softens the brain.
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What is the approved method of starting a new aspect of Olympic niggles within an existing volume which has reached 70 posts please?
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The approved method that works for me Meldrew, is just not bother commenting at all.
If we all did that they could have a neat and tidy forum!
Far more fun in the threads where we don't get nagged though.
Pat
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The way to keep different subjects separate, in any thread such as this one and 'bargains', 'F1' etc., is to reply to the message at the top of the page when starting a new subject.
Not sure why Pat objects to this - makes it a lot easier to follow what's going on for those of us who easily get confused!
EDIT: BTW it also guarantees that you post will appear at the bottom
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... and if you look at the thread in Threaded view it will all become more obvious.
The decision to create a new volume of a thread is fairly random, it used to be kept shorter because of slower internet speeds but that is less of a problem for many these days. I rarely do it as RP usually beats me to it! But I guess around 120 - 140 posts...
If you post as Focus suggests, your post arrives on the bottom of it's related thread, not the bottom of the whole thread.
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That's all very well, but it's not what happens in pubs, which is what a good forum chat resembles.
People just sound off into the general hubub and hope someone picks it up. No one interupts the conversation by saying "Just a moment, I'd like to go back to the remark made by Jim ten minutes ago and develop that theme a bit, in parallel to the main conversation".
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>> No one interupts the conversation by saying "Just a moment, I'd like to go back to the remark made by Jim ten minutes ago and develop that theme a bit, in parallel to the main conversation".
I do. Nobody listens though. I said - oh never mind.
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A pub chat happens in real time, and conversation moves from topic to topic quite swiftly in my experience.
Online is different though, people aren't chatting at the physically same time but might have a comment to make about an earlier post. Without threading the threads would become a hotch potch of comments relating to a comment way further up the thread, and thus could be baffling to anyone except the person who posted it.
It wouldn't resemble a pub chat, well, except maybe one at the end of a rather long evening...
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I understand that - thank you. I now appreciate that this works in the same way as bargains etc.
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I don't object, I just can't be bothered to conform with petty rules, so decide to leave you all to it and go somewhere I can post away.
If I post in the 'wrong' place it annoys me when someone points it out (as opposed to tactfully ignoring it), so I feel the best way to avoid getting annoyed is not to post on the thread at all.
As a thought worth mentioning though, along with pedantry, there are probably only three of us on here (Zero, Rattle and myself) who are happy to admit we don't always type what we intend to, or haven't the best grasp of the written word as it should be written.
We take all the digs with good nature and still remain posting......how many see it and choose not to?
For me, I do far too much paperwork which has to be spell and grammar checked and I see that it is, so when I have a five minute break and log in here I want exactly that....a break.
Pat
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>> I don't object, I just can't be bothered to conform with petty rules
Petty to you Pat, but what about those to whom it helps us follow what's going on? I could understand it if it was hard to follow, or if it didn't have benefits.
>> If I post in the 'wrong' place it annoys me when someone points it out
>> (as opposed to tactfully ignoring it)
Yes, I get annoyed when someone spots a bug in my code. So I try not to put bugs in my code - that way everyone wins :)
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>>but what about those to whom it helps us follow what's going on? <<
Exactly, that's why I don't post on the thread....that way everyone wins.
Or do they?....how many more are there feel like I do and just don't say so?
Pat
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>> >>but what about those to whom it helps us follow what's going on? <<
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If people use the "quote button", or failing that at least copy/quote the post they are replying to, then it is easy to follow the conversation.
The point Focus and Smokie and the Mods are making is that if you start a new topic within a "generic" thread, then try to remember to post it under the first post. That way you will avoid antagonising VxFan and save him some trouble rearranging the thread. If you do forget and you get some stick from VxFan, enjoy it in the spirit of Fifty Shades of Grey.
>> Or do they?....how many more are there feel like I do and just don't say
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We will never know, but could be in their hundreds as I am sure of one thing - no one is as strong willed (or thick skinned) as you & Zero & me and to be able to take the beatings doled out on here. But i hope we return the favour and give as good as we get.
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:)
Once a rebel.....!
Having said that, HJ forums beat me and I haven't posted since last year.
I complained about the IE9 problem they had and had a few very abrupt emails form someone called Dan telling me it was all my fault;)
Pat
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>> :)
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>> Once a rebel.....!
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>> Having said that, HJ forums beat me and I haven't posted since last year.
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>> I complained about the IE9 problem they had and had a few very abrupt emails
>> form someone called Dan telling me it was all my fault;)
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>> Pat
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They are still complaining about IE9.
The technical people are clearly incompetent.. Is that Dan, Dan the internet man?
(I use Google Chrome so it matters not to me)
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I don't know who Dan is...but I returned his email and told him what I thought of him anyway!
Pat
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I was doing a response along the same lines as the couple somewhere above, but as they say it so well I thought I'd go and tidy up this thread instead.
Roughly 7 minutes of my time, just moving stuff about and re-titling (the software isn't the smartest).
I don't see it as a petty rule at all, it is not there just for it's own sake. It's not even a rule. It's just guidance that we'd like you to respect, which grew out of the way the software works, as it greatly assists readability especially when you are catching up on a lot of posts at once, as I'm sure a lot of readers do.
I really don't understand why it's an issue, as it is very easy to do properly. If you'd prefer to ignore that guidance then don't be surprised if out-of-place posts disappear - it is much easier to disappear a wrongly placed post than correct it. The knock-on can be that, unless quite a bit of effort is expended, subsequent posts attached to that post also disappear.
I don't do as much moderating as the others but it is a tad inconsiderate to deliberately cause work for us and potential waste of effort to other posters just out of bloody mindedness, because you don't like petty rules.
OTOH you say you don't generally post in multi threaded topics. So maybe, with this one being the exception, it's not such a problem after all :-) I'd prefer that you posted where you want, and as much as you want, but with consideration for others...
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I don't understand what is meant by posting inconsiderately. I can't follow this discussion at all.
I just post: if in answer to one person replying to them, if in answer to one or two then replying to the last r most important of them, and if to the line being taken by the thread in general then at the bottom. It seldom stays bottom for long anyway.
Is this inconsiderate? Making extra work for the poor mods in their sweatshop-like conditions? I genuinely don't know.
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>> I can't follow this discussion at all.
Right - here goes... :)
I post on subject X, then rebel Pat starts a new subject Y by replying to my post and changing the subject, rather than the top post. Doesn't look too bad so far:
Subject X: Focus
X blah
Subject Y: Pat
Y blah
Then you decide to chip in on subject X, so naturally you reply to my post rather than Pat's (if you did reply to Pat's post you would have to change the subject back again to X). But because Pat has already replied to my post ('incorrectly'), the end result is:
Subject X: Focus
X blah
Subject Y: Pat
Y blah
Subject X: AC
X blah
That is, posts on subject X have become split up. Whereas if Pat had replied to the top post, the end result would have been:
Subject X: Focus
X blah
Subject X: AC
X blah
Subject Y: Pat
Y blah
with posts on the same subject kept together.
HTH (?)
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That helps me at least, Focus, and thanks. I can see I've been doing it wrong too. Will try harder to get it right now it's gone into my thick mind.
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>> HTH (?)
Well, I sort of understand that, especially the repeated word 'blah'.
But yet again I agree with Zero for my sins, and for his sins if that isn't libellous: most people can accommodate a fair amount of thread drift intellectually, so this seldom matters. If one sometimes thinks one is being addressed when one isn't, so what?
I don't think mods are necessarily OCD though. Quite a few epithets spring to mind, not all uncomplimentary. But I won't list them. Got to rank them first and that may take some time.
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>>Roughly 7 minutes of my time, just moving stuff about and re-titling<<
What a waste of time, I can't see what you've done, could navigate the thread perfectly well before and can navigate it now.......could you be the victim of a tidy mind?
Smokie, there's far more important things in life to worry about (and enjoy) than tidying up forum threads for the sake of it!
The pedants will still be here when we've long gone;)
Pat
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Because there are separate subjects being discussed in this single thread then replying at the end to a post higher up is deemed to be inappropriate - I think. Much like the other multi-threaded topics.
But for this thread I'm not sure it needs to be moderated as multi-threaded. I'm not sure if the other moderators have been doing much editing.
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These topics with sub-topics are one thing, though I don't think it's difficult to keep threaded.
Just replying to the correct post in a single topic thread would be progress. Shirley it's actually easier to do that than to tack a reply on to a post that has nothing to do with the comment being added? When somebody asks a question I usually reply to the question, not the 39th answer below it.
The mutli thread ones are actually just as easy. Reply to the post you are answering, or if it's a new topic reply to the top one. Nothing hard or intimidating about it to me.
However - we have to deal with internet forums as they are, not as we would like them to be, so if the price of having the rebels on the forum is hunt-the-question, then so be it ;-)
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By rearranging the posts, the mods have (and do) ruined the spontaneity of the entire structure. Most people can makes sense of it, who cares. Just leave it alone. I think to be a mod you need to have a severe dose of OCD.
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I'm not rising to it, but rest assured I definitely do not have a tidy mind, or the remotest tinge of OCD.
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I have CDO. It’s like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
:-)
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>> I have CDO. It’s like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, LIKE THEY
>> ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
Cobblers, you just have dyslexia and can't spell OCD.
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>> By rearranging the posts, the mods have (and do) ruined the spontaneity of the entire
>> structure.
Don't follow that - in what way?
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Because I see things start off, and then they get moved. Sometimes they do have a link (tenuous) that gets broken.
I know where the papers are in my desk. I don't want my wife shifting them about, just to tidy up.
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I think we better shut up or we'll be *'told off' for thread drift next!
I thought I was replying to 'sponsors' but it appears I've replied to 'why use threaded posts'
Now if no-one had replied to my advice to Meldrew, this woul;d never have happened!
* Not the term I used the first time either
Pat
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Adidas have sponsored the games, and there was some doubt whether you would be allowed in wearing a pair of Nike trainers (as they have not).
Who is on the back of the medals? The Greek Goddess of Victory. And what is she called? Nike.
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>>Who is on the back of the medals?
Have you checked? It looked like Ronald MacDonald on the gong swinging from Becky Adlington's ribbon.
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