Volume 1 is here innit blood :-
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Last edited by: R.P. on Tue 17 Jul 12 at 18:49
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When I worked for a company with offices in Hampshire and Derbyshire, the southern people would say "What's going on?", the northern ones "What's going off?"
My father stopped an American at his factory from smoking near some liquid marked 'inflammable'. She maintained that there was no problem - only items marked 'flammable' were a fire risk. Couldn't fault her logic!
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I've mentioned this before but some Northern folk use local variations of lend/borrow.
'Can I have a lend of your bike Bromp?'
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Where I grew up, if you offered a pal a lift on your bike ( the passenger on the saddle and the rider standing in the pedals ) it was known as a "backie". My wife assures me that in Cheshire it's a "seatie". Which is of course just wrong.
Probably illegal now too. Sheesh !
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When I was growing up, when talking of shop opening hours we would use 'while' eg 'it's open 8 while 6' seemed perfectly normal to me and I thought everyone used it until I moved away. People would look at my funny and say ''what do you mean 'while' ?''
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Apocryphal story but I heard somewhere, might even have been here, that they had to change the signs on Yorkshire levels crossings because they read "Wait while the red lights flash" or something like that...
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...People would look at my funny...
Look at your what?
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Sounds about right :-)
opps should have been ' at me funny'
Last edited by: sooty123 on Tue 17 Jul 12 at 19:57
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Well, I could tell one letter was wrong, just wasn't sure which one.
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Well they could try looking...
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>> Well, I could tell one letter was wrong, just wasn't sure which one.
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Eh!
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AT the end of school lessons in North Wales, the children were/are told to 'keep your books'. It doesn't mean take them home, but rather put them in the desk.
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I love this latest batch of posts. I don't think that they are "funny" (as in "odd") at all. I think they are brilliant. I love all this local variety in use of language.
I've no doubt that in some cases the story behind how a particular region came to adopt a local figure of speech is very interesting.
All we've got is rhyming slang, which people treat rather as something to laugh at.
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>> Apocryphal story but I heard somewhere, might even have been here, that they had to
>> change the signs on Yorkshire levels crossings because they read "Wait while the red lights
>> flash" or something like that...
I knew I'd mentioned somewhere...
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=78893&v=t&m=912878
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Only like 8 through 6 - which I like even less (fewer?...8o) )
And what was it that happened "back in the day" ?
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Trying to keep off pedantry and annoying modernisms, I like a lot of those metaphorical and/or proverbial expressions that seemed much more common years ago.
My colleagues found it endlessly amusing when I used the expression "..butter no parsnips" which comes quite naturally to me but they seemed never to have heard it.
Another favourite that evoked a similar response is "a fish always rots from the head". Good one that and almost always true when applied to business conduct.
Some common expressions are serious wisdom that is usually overlooked. "Sleep on it" is the best example I can think of. If I have a challenging problem I take care to think about it last think before I go to sleep. It's amazing how often I can wake up less worried and and on the way to a plan or decision. The brain is definitely doing something in between.
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Fus coat and no knckers is always one that's tickled me (!)
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When my parents moved to an area where the locals used we-uns and us-uns instead of we and us, they tried to join in, but could never get the rules quite right.
Most of the time, the 'we' seemed to be replaced by 'us-uns', and 'us' by 'we-uns'. But not universally.
So they'd try 'us-uns are going to the town' - just to get a blank look and told its 'we-uns are going to the town' (or vice versa - I don't know which one is right!).
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>>Fus coat and no knckers is always one that's tickled me (!)<<
Tickled me as well when my German byrd used to do it!
:}
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>> Fus coat and no knckers is always one that's tickled me (!)
Along with 'She's no better than she ought to be'
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One of my colleagues used what I thought was a nice expression when describing some poor chap rather disparagingly:
"There goes a man with a station above his ideas."
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unlike Lord Beeching - A man with ideas of no Stations!
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At a small firm I worked at years ago, there were almost as many "bosses" as "grunts". One day the "Big-chief" made an announcement that half of the "Grunts" were to be "laid-off" (whilst none of the "bosses" were). This also to be fair, included his own wife, who was heard to remark "He`s just the same at home, he prunes all our bushes by chopping the roots"!
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>> My colleagues found it endlessly amusing when I used the expression "..butter no parsnips" which comes quite naturally to me but they seemed never to have heard it.
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I can't say I've heard of it, what does it mean?
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I heard an infamous former Chief Constable as "East Ham" (one stop short of Barking)
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My missus is a nurse and they always refer to their rotas as their "off duty".
I have argued that if this is a list of all her working shifts it should be an "on duty" but it falls on deaf ears!!
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Funny that, when my ole man was a train driver he always called his the "off duty" rota. As you say, it was really "on duty" rota.
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>> >> My colleagues found it endlessly amusing when I used the expression "..butter no parsnips"
>> which comes quite naturally to me but they seemed never to have heard it.
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>> I can't say I've heard of it, what does it mean?
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As used by us at least, the full expression is "sweet words butter no parsnips", which makes its meaning more evident.
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>> "sweet words butter no parsnips"
>>As used by us at least,
And by Mrs CS, although I can't understand why.
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Well if you collected stamps you'd understand. After all... oh work out your own feeble pun.
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Aah, a stamp collector. Would you have any idea of the value of my 20 x Paintings FDCs that I paid an arm and a leg for around 1968.
A marvellous investment, or so I was told by one of your ilk.
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>> A marvellous investment, or so I was told by one of your ilk.
I was too obscure. My pun was simply "philately gets you nowhere", another way of expressing the meaning of the parsnip phrase. I'm not a stamp collector. Like most kids I had some, but long since disposed of them, I fear.
Mind you, I do have a tedious stampy anecdote. Skip along if you don't care.
When I was small I had a stamp I couldn't identify. There was a "Junior Mail" section in the Daily Mail on Saturdays, and so I wrote asking about it, including my details as requested. It was printed, and next thing I knew a strange man was on the phone, having asked the DM for my number, and he told me all I needed to know about the stamp.
1) How times have changed
2) The DM never sent me the promised five shillings for publication, a grudge I hold to this day.
PS Are these they?
www.westcountrystampsandcovers.co.uk/1967-gpo-british-paintings-first-day-cover-2128-p.asp
Last edited by: Crankcase on Thu 19 Jul 12 at 09:18
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>> PS Are these they?
>> www.westcountrystampsandcovers.co.uk/1967-gpo-british-paintings-first-day-cover-2128-p.asp
You were nearly there, CC, but it's these, issued a year later in 1968:
www.westcountrystampsandcovers.co.uk/1968-gpo-british-paintings-fdc-with-bristol-first-day-of-issue-11201-p.asp
Asking prices seem to vary between £3 and £7. Took me an hour of rummaging to find them, though.
Thanks for the link.
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I`ve an old-looking black queen Victoria stamp, do you think it may be worth anymore than the Penny it used to be?
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>> I`ve an old-looking black queen Victoria stamp, ...........
I didn't know that Queen Victoria was black.
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>> I didn't know that Queen Victoria was black.
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She will be by now !
Ted
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>> And by Mrs CS, although I can't understand why.
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I bet she's a Gas.
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All mouth and no trousers.
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"All mouth and no trousers" is now a common mistaken version of the original - "all mouth and trousers". I first heard this on Coronation Street thirty or so years ago and assume its meaning to be one who can talk and look the business, but can't back it up. I fear the wrong version now has currency and will take over.
It probably stems from the similar cadense of "fur coat and no Knickers"
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Folk ask "Do you know what?" before telling you what.
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My Dear old Gran used to say "You dont get no pudding till you`ve eaten your Greens"!
Probably meaning you`ve to do the rough stuff to get the rewards.
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>>My Dear old Gran used to say "You dont get no pudding till you`ve eaten your Greens"! <<
Similar to a line on an album by The Greatest Progressive Rock Group In The Galaxy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U&feature=fvwrel
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Good fun Perro, but I always thought that lyric pernicious and subversive. The Floyd, educated individuals who had already become very rich, should have been ashamed of themselves for that.
People damn well do need education and 'thought control'. Without them they are thrown back on their own, usually meagre, resources and are more or less helpless. We can see the results on every side.
This fun anarchism by the Floyd recalls the claim by the psychiatrist R D Laing, made some years earlier, that mentally ill people were really sane and it was society that was mentally ill. That led to years of utter rubbish spouted by his enthusiastic followers, and a number of dangerous and harmful experiments.
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Eeee I'l go to t'foot of r'stairs !
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>>The Floyd<<
Pink Floyd!
I never had any education, or thought control (apart from the idiots lantern)
I managed to go from being a van driver in the Old Kent Rd., to becoming self-employed, and living in an 18th century Cornish cottage by educating myself.
I am familiar with R D Laing and have read some of his books, he is a Scot (says it all really!)
My ole mum used to say "There are more out than in" and from my personal experience of life, that saying still holds true today.
I have no-time for psychiatrists, having seen a few when I were young-er.
Do they still carry out frontal lobotomies and ECT I wonder.
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>> I managed to go from being a van driver in the Old Kent Rd., to becoming self-employed, and living in an 18th century Cornish cottage by educating myself.
I don't doubt it for a moment Perro. Not everyone has meagre internal resources, and information, ideas and so on are readily available in our society. But you must know perfectly well that there are many who are not like you, who are more or less helpless and who easily fall prey to what might be called false ideas.
I once met R D Laing, in the late sixties I think. He was personable and fun-loving, but I'm afraid in the end increasingly barmy. His theory that the family, as society's extension and avatar, was responsible for much of what we call mental illness actually has a lot of merit. Unfortunately though his own family life and love life illustrate the point quite vividly.
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>>His theory that the family, as society's extension and avatar, was responsible for much of what we call mental illness actually has a lot of merit<<
Ah! - and another line from the same Pink Floyd album springs to mind ... "Mothers gonna put all of her fears into you".
:)
I've been sitting here wondering just what I DID learn in school.
I could read, write, and put 2 & 2 together when I started school.
I learnt the difference between a verb and a nown, and what happened one day in 1066 + ad43.
Plus a few other things.
To be purrfectly honest Sire, if ADD / ADHD / ASD had been 'available' in my day, I would have have been first in the queue - to see the psyche doc :}
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I think it's the meat you have to eat to get your pudding in ABITW part 1.
Fantastic album and one of my favourite bands.
I would gently nudge, however, Genesis (pre departure of Steve Hackett) as a better prog band though...
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Genesis is all very lovely, and who doesn't like Duke, but come along.
Of a similar vintage
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5_HL9A_PA
Of a more current vintage
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0stkLanx4
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I used to work with a chap in the early 70's who was 'into' Yes, when we had to go to a warehouse over in Old St. he would dig out his Fender Stratocaster which he'd hidden there and play some Yes (he used to play in a group)
I was more 'into' Pink Floyd, Canned Heat, King Crimson, Jethro Tull etc., but I learnt to appreciate Yes,
once I'd matured :)
Noctourniquet are interesting, I've got a good ear for music, its like a language to me.
I can see there are some negative comments on YouTube, they don't understand the lingo see :)
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Ah, Dog, as you appreciate the lingo - try the Jason Crumer "Ottoman Black" album
Can't recall if you're a Spotifier - link below if so. I warn you - it takes a certain something to get through it. I'm pleased (?) to say I managed it, but not sure if I'm better for the experience. A serious "musical" challenge this one.
spotify:album:441xYzjI7xezwsQuyZ6S3q
Edit - not sure if link will work here, so search using standard search box if not.
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Crikey Cc, that's really outer sight man!
I wonder if you've ever heard of ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZA8vaToQ7o
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Thank you Dog - a new one for me. All spaced out now, man.
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>> Crikey Cc, that's really outer sight man!
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>> I wonder if you've ever heard of ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZA8vaToQ7o
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Well, fancy that, Bonzo. I've got the LP somewhere. I always liked ' Water '.
Not played it for 30 yrs, probablobly.
Ted
Last edited by: Ted on Fri 20 Jul 12 at 17:57
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Water seems to be the fave from that album Teddy, going by the comments on YouTube.
The missus don't like any of their music - she's only got 2 ears you see.
:-}
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>> Water seems to be the fave from that album Teddy, going by the comments on
>> YouTube.
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>> The missus don't like any of their music - she's only got 2 ears you
>> see.
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>> :-}
Unlike the Vulcan Perro, who has three - the left, the right, and the final front ear?
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>>and the final front ear?<<
Hehe! - very good Manatee :)
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Listened through twice now. Air for me.
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>> Listened through twice now. Air for me.
If ' Water's ' on Utube I'll have a listen later.......meanwhile it's Mahler night on Classic Effem.
I think they're playing the Tragic Symphony soon, just listened to ' Songs of a Wayfarer ' Brill !
Ted
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This is quite a pleasant little ditty: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWNKH7B5mSs
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My ole mum used to say "I`ts BETTER out than in" and from my personal experience of life, that saying still holds true today. ;-)
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"I`ts BETTER out than in........
And there m'lud rests Mr Devonites defence........
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The world and his dog is one that annoys me ! Why ruin a perfectly good saying ?
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I quite like this old one:
Hail-fellow-well-met.
Last edited by: Clk Sec on Thu 19 Jul 12 at 14:35
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And...
Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
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A Welsh saying that I've not understood until it was explained to me a few weeks ago a phrase used to describe something that's planned to be done "On the knitting needles"
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EE BYE GUM...need i say more?
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.>>need i say more?
...LAD.
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>> EE BYE GUM...need i say more?
Really, it's EE BAH GUM...............MUGABE backwards !
Ted
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Our grandson - "Mummy - I burped with my bottom".
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thy stands corrected ....i bet thats wrong too, appen?
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I learnt in a war-time novel recently that the use of "dim" to mean someone is pretty thick was originlly "a dim bulb", dating from an era when voltages fluctuated and lights often dimmed if generators were struggling.
Doesn't "cut the mustard" is a nice one, as opposed to being the "cat's whisker".
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Nice one Cliff. We had a girl in work who was referred to as the "40 watter" for much the same reason. Also worked with a guy (ex-squaddie) whose nickname in the Army was "40" his surname was Watts - I don't think he ever worked it out which figures really
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Funny things folk say...Vol 2. - Tigger
