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Thread Author: Westpig Replies: 14

 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Westpig
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18715684

How long before someone at the company realises...and reverses or tries to reverse the decision.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - R.P.
Pathetic bunch of money grabbing idiots. Land of the free my backside. Look how much they were paying the guy.....I'd tell them to stuff there jobs up their fat *****. And if I was the drownee I'd reward him.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Mapmaker
To be fair he did tell them to stuff their job.


Interestingly, though, I don't see how they could have done anything else. He left his own section of beach unguarded. He was acting against the rules. He didn't *actually* rescue the person in question, that job had already been done.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - MD
I'm with BMW, BMW and BMW.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Zero
miami.cbslocal.com/2012/07/05/termination-of-hallandale-beach-lifeguard-being-reviewed/
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Lygonos
Land of the free?

No - land of private companies more focussed on liability and $$$

If the guy is in intensive care it's very likely he was pulled lifeless from the water and is only alive as the result of the first aid/resuscitation he received. Hopefully his braincells survived intact.

I seem to recall a guy who was reprimanded and subsequently resigned in disgust from the coastguard or RNLI a couple of years ago - I believe he climbed down to a distreesed walker who had slid down a cliff and was stuck halfway down - the rescuer waited with the (woman I think) until she could be recovered but was deemed to have put himself in unnecessary danger.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - MD
HORLICKS TO THE RULES. If someone is in danger and you can help, then help and wait for the consequences. Pray may we return to when Men were Men an similarly when Women looked and behaved like Women, but that's a whole different subject.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - R.P.
The Daily Mail would have hailed him a hero...

"Mr Rescuer (aged 26) a factory worker who lives in a 13,000 pound luxury house in Nottinghamshire was last night hailed a hero by employers for rescuing a drowning southerner..."
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - John H
>> Land of the free?
>>
>> No - land of private companies more focussed on liability and $$$
>>

How do you explain the incident below which happened in the land of slavery and the super-taxed?

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/feb/22/man-drowned-lake-firefighters

Witnesses raised the alarm, but the hearing was told on Tuesday that members of a fire crew refused to get to him because the water was more than ankle deep. Instead, they waited for a specialist water rescue team and Burgess was only taken out of the lake 28 minutes after the alarm was raised.

Gillian Hughes, 53, told the inquest, at Portsmouth coroners court, that she had phoned emergency services and urged them to rescue Burgess when they arrived. She said: "The firemen arrived with the police, and I said: 'He's only been there five or 10 minutes, so if you hurry you might save him.'

"He just said: 'We're not allowed', and I said: 'But that's your job.'

Hughes added: "I said to one of the firemen: Why don't you go in?' and he said they couldn't if the water was higher than ankle deep. I said: 'You're having a laugh'. He said: 'No, that's health and safety' – but I thought that was their job."

She said that another fire crew arrived and started walking around the lake, putting in a pole and measuring the depth but, by this time, Burgess had drifted from one side of the lake to the other.

Deborah Coles, the control room manager at Hampshire Fire and Rescue, told the inquest that she took the call from Hughes at 12.17pm and, within a minute, had sent a fire appliance, a water rescue trained crew and a water support unit.

"Police, ambulance and coastguard were also sent as standard for a water rescue," she added. "The specialist teams are there to deal with water which is over half a boot in depth. At 12.20pm, the fire crew confirmed attendance and at 12.25 they told us a male was floating face down."


In case you think it was an isolated incident, there are others listed here:
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/20/barbara-ellen-health-and-safety-rules

"Strathclyde Fire and Rescue arrived swiftly, she was left for eight hours because the senior officer present refused to stray from guidelines, stating that they were only allowed to winch other fire personnel to safety. Finally pulled up by a mountain rescue team, Ms Hume suffered a heart attack bought on by hypothermia and died. "

"in 2007, 10-year-old Jordan Lyon drowned in a pond, watched by two police community officers, who said that regulations barred them from rescuing him."


 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Lygonos
Difference here is the OPs case relates to an event where the rescuer is at no risk.

The ones you highlight are a result of interpretation of 'safety of rescuer' rules.

(Or misinterpretation)

I tend to put more weight in Fatal Accident Inquiry (Coroner's verdicts in Eng/Wales?) than newspaper copy that is a regurgitation of an eyewitness's comment.

The FAI into the death of the solicitor in Scotland mentioned was highly critical of the operational response by the crew leadership - the firemen themselves appeared ready to go down the shaft with the gear they had - the lady was 40 or so feet down an unstable shaft that itself was much deeper but crud from the sides had fallen to create a false bottom 40 ft or so down.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - John H
>> Difference here is the OPs case relates to an event where the rescuer is at
>> no risk.
>>
"at no risk" - No way of knowing that.
The newspaper copy says that the Lifeguard left the area he was employed to protect, the employer was under contract to the City. "The city pays Jeff Ellis and Associates .... to provide lifeguards."


>> newspaper copy
>>

The OP and Zero's links are just that.

 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Lygonos
The OP's link appears to be from several sources, as it should be for the Beeb to be presenting it.

 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - MD
SHOOT the lot of them.
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - L'escargot
>> ........ I'd tell them to stuff there jobs up their fat *****.

******* ********!
:-D
 The good old 'Jobsworth' strikes again - Westpig
>> >> ........ I'd tell them to stuff there jobs up their fat *****.

Six of them have.
>>
>> ******* ********!

Quite agree....;-)


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