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On the one hand, probably reasonable given that he did almost as badly as Hodgson. On the other hand, there is little doubt that Dalglish is a good manager, given his previous history. So perhaps they should have come to the conclusion that it might not only be down to the capability of the manager.
Too late to admit that they might have made a mistake about Hodgson, but why compound the mistake by getting rid of Dalglish?
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That is why you should never make a club Legend the Manager! - it usually ends up with the manager getting fired, and that is no way to treat an ex-player who helped the club so much.
If a player leaves with a Legend status, then stay away in the future lest your status be tarnished!
Zola, Terry, Lampard and Drogs, - Take heed!
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>>little doubt that Dalglish is a good manager, given his previous history
bought success at Blackburn
bombed at Celtic
bombed at Newcastle
as someone said - Dalglish's problem is that he is not as good as Dalglish thinks he is!
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>> as someone said - Dalglish's problem is that he is not as good as Dalglish
>> thinks he is!
Bit harsh I reckon. You missed out his first stint at Liverpool, Celtic was really only meant to be a temporary position until the end of the season, and perhaps Newcastle just wasn't right for him.
It's always hard to strip away the other factors (such as the money at Blackburn), but given his record (and the fact that Hodgson wasn't far off getting West Brom to finish ahead of them this season), I reckon they really should have given more consideration to the problem being elsewhere, rather than the last two managers.
Perhaps I should reserve judgement for 12 months, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them in exactly the same place, and heading for manager number 4.
When owners aren't football people and are just rich folk who expect to be able to buy success, they sometimes think that they can just keep changing the manager, until they find one that gives them an instant result.
That's what Abramovich has suffered from, churning through managers, since Mourinho. Maybe he's finally struck gold with Di Matteo, or maybe they'll lose by the width of a post, and he'll go for another big name, who just wants a big paycheck.
Last edited by: SteelSpark on Wed 16 May 12 at 17:36
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The club has been brought to the edge of bankruptcy by the yank owners. It has a now crap youth system, and no money to buy success. Bit of a basket case really, loads of expectations but no substance.
Dalglish is a good manager, he he'd a good stint at Liverpool, and Blackburn. 4 league titles means he is every bit as good a manager as he think he is.
Liverpool will regret this move.
(managing a scottish football team never counts on anyones CV, its not a real football league)
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The key problem for Roy Hodgson during his short spell at Liverpool was that, in the main, the club's fans did not think he was good enough for their club.
He proved them wrong at West Brom and the latest bit of office work he has picked up and, what's more, by invitation...:-))
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Liverpool finised to low in the Premier League 8th I believe.
To low for a top team with a great history.That is why he got the boot.
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>> Liverpool finised to low in the Premier League 8th I believe.
Eighth might have been forgiveable. The final straw was being below the Toffees.
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>> Liverpool finished too low in the Premier League 8th I believe. Too low for a top team with a great history.That is why he got the boot>>
No, too low for a Champions League place, which fans believe is their right...:-)))
There are fans of at least 10 Premiership clubs who would be delighted to finish eighth - a position that also meant the Anfield club ended the season below its near neighbours Everton (three cheers!)
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Everton is that a football team.>:)
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Liverpool is doing what Man City started 40 years ago. Only another 20 years to go...
As for Dalglish, he inherited a great team at Liverpool - and relatively weak opposition. His buying record at Liverpool last year shows he has learned nothing about husbanding the owners' scarce resources.. And of course, he played the "we wuz robbed" card so often , he had no credibility.
(All the above will of course be anathema to Liverpool supporters who do not live in the present. Liverpool deserve to be no higher than 8th. They are no longer a Great Club. Once the Premier League started and Opposition grew serious, their flaws became apparent)
As for blaming US Owners, well they ran out of money. At least they did not do a Rangers.
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>> Everton is that a football team.>:)
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I think this thread is about soccer:-)
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Don't care, as long as the scousers don't try and nick our manager (Roberto Martinez)
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Martinez is off anyways, if its not Liverpool its somewhere else. Why would he stay at a club that can only fill a small stadium with a 75% attendance average.
Wigan is no Premier league club, they will be gone and down sooner or later.
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Liverpool need a local legend with an undying passion for the club as their manager, a real Messiah.
Jimmy Tarbuck is sitting by the phone even as I write...
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Nah - Ken Dodd is the man - no tax problems if he's there!
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I've often wondered what's so hard about being a football manager. After all, it's not like it's a difficult concept to grasp is it?
Here's how I see it...
See those goalposts there? Well could some of you work together to try to kick the ball between them please, some of you try to stop the other team from doing that at our end if you would, and one of you stand in the goals at our end to catch the ball just in case one of their team does get past and kicks it towards our goals.
Now, all of you are jolly good at football and most of you have done nothing else all your lives so you don't really need me to tell you the rules or what constitutes a "good kick" now do you?
Please try awfully hard not to upset the referee. He will always win whether you agree with him or not and don't be rolling around in mock agony like a schoolgirl just because one of the others bumps into you. You're grown men in the prime of fitness so just try to behave like that will you? You are after all paid really very well for your services so do try to make a special effort and if you do, I'll select you for the next game you see?
Good, all clear? Splendid. Carry on.
Last edited by: Humph D'Bout on Wed 16 May 12 at 22:27
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That was probably the spirit that won the English the World Cup in 1966
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And won them nothing since
Humphs view of course is the Scottish Way, which also accounts for why they have won nothing - ever.
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Ok, so explain why it's complicated then. Is there calculus involved?
:-)
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Well for a start you need TicTacs.
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It's a hustle surely? You get the job, you tell people to do things, hire some and fire others, then if the team wins you're the toast of Merseyside (all that paint stripper, yuck) and if it loses you're baboon excrement.
Of course you have to 'know what you're doing', to the extent that anyone does. And have a tough hide for the endless scandals and showers of bricks and bottles. Damn well-rewarded racket though.
Gives the punters fuel for endless experting too. Keeps them off the streets and out of the criminal courts. No bad thing that.
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>>TicTacs.
Is that the bit where they all just kick the ball back and forth for what seems like a decade without actually even attempting to kick it towards the goals?
As an aside, the thing which I really don't get is how so many people who are supposed to be so good at it can manage to run around a not terribly big field for so long without actually scoring a goal or even attempting to do so. No other spectator oriented competition I can think of can go on for so interminably long without either side scoring a single point.
I think I'd want a mint to suck just to relieve the monotony.
:-)
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>> Don't care, as long as the scousers don't try and nick our manager (Roberto Martinez)
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Yeah....and they haven't got the dosh to nick ours, Lord Mancini of Manchester.
Did I tell you we won the league ?
Ted
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Dalglish gets the boot - devonite
