Motoring Discussion > BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions
Thread Author: DP Replies: 82

 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
First 100 miles in the F30, so I thought I'd post some initial impressions.

I chose Mineral Grey, which you might call gunmetal grey. I think the car is very handsome, with an almost shark-like nose reminiscent of the 70s and early 80's BMWs. The bonnet line looks very low for a modern car, and the overall impression is of a car that actually looks smaller than it is. It's a shame the bonnet shutline doesn't extend down to the lights and grille like on the E90, but otherwise, I think the styling update works well.

Inside there is more space than before. The kids have more legroom, and the child booster seats don't foul the seatbelt buckles like they did in the E90. The driving position is excellent, with a huge range of seat adjustment, and the wheel, pedals and gear lever falling nicely to hand.

The interior itself is a quantum leap over the E90. There's the same driver focused layout, but the materials are softer, the design much more modern, and the now standard i-Drive keeps the dash layout relatively simple. Fit and finish is impeccable, and the equipment levels are also generous. Mine is bog standard, save for metallic paint, and still comes with 4 electric windows, electric heated mirrors, dual zone climate, parking sensors, cruise control, Radio/CD with USB and auxiliary inputs, Bluetooth, auto lights, and auto wipers.

Another new (to me) feature is the ability to set the car into different driving "modes", activated by a button next to the gear lever. The default mode is "ECO PRO" which softens throttle response, turns the air conditioning down, and winds all the Efficient Dynamics gubbins up to maximum settings. There's also "COMFORT", and "SPORT".

In SPORT mode, the throttle response becomes very satisfying, with a deep surge on tap whenever you need it. Although trying to treat the still tight engine with a bit of respect, I can feel this is going to be a fairly quick car. The thump in the back is way beyond anything the 318d could deliver, and the 8 second 0-62 time is entirely believable.

It's not all good news though. Even allowing for new tyres and lack of familiarity, it's clear this is not of the same standard dynamically as the E90. It's softer, the steering is lighter (even in SPORT mode), and it's generally lazier in its responses. It feels like it's probably going to understeer before it does anything else, but maybe a few more miles on the tyres will help. Until I get it run in and do some hard driving, I can't comment any further, and it's still a good handling car by general standards, but there just isn't that sense of "connection" with the road that the old car had. I thought it telling that the latter was SWMBO's exact comment after driving it for the first time, with no prompting from me.

Although I haven't put fuel in yet, and can't comment on the real economy, the figures from the computer are staggering. For a 163 bhp engine with 100 miles on the clock to be sticking >60 mpg figures on the trip averages is very impressive. I never got the 318d to 50 mpg. It remains to be seen how accurate this is, and I will be checking it carefully.

So, all in a very pleasant car so far. Love the interior, the engine, the equipment levels, the immaculate build quality, and the styling. I think it will be a very easy car to live with for 3 years, even if the jury is still out on the dynamics. Will keep you posted.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - a900ss
Very interesting. Please let us know if you notice any 'downsides' of getting the ED version. I'm keen to know if going for the ED you have to compromise on strange gearing that is great for economy but not so good in the real overtaking world. Likewise, is the suspension lowered for economy?

Enjoy the car.

 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
My FiL has ordered a 328 - from the spec sheet it looks good - delivery not until next month sometime.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Focusless
>> My FiL has ordered a 328 - from the spec sheet it looks good

0-62 in 5.9s, 155mph top speed (limited presumably), 33mpg urban... yes, I can see the appeal :)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
Don't think he needed an excuse ! Chopped in an immaculate 3 year old 328 (6 cyl) with low miles - I was actually close to tears and nearly made the man-maths work !
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
That 2.0 turbo engine in the 328i has had rave reviews, which is impressive when you consider it replaces one of the world's truly great engines (THAT six pot) in the old lineup.

a900ss, the suspension is lower than a non ED version, and the car wears 16" alloys with energy saver tyres (the actual problem, I suspect).

Gearing seems OK. There's no gaping chasm between any of the gears, and it always seems to pull well. 6th is tall, but it will still pull up motorway inclines or for motorway overtakes without needing to change down.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Focusless
HJ's a 328i fan as well - "It’s the closest you can get to perfection in a medium sized saloon car."
www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/bmw/bmw-3-series-f30/
(also tests the 320d (not ED))
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 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Fursty Ferret
If it's anything like my BMW the new tyres were incredibly slippery for the first thousand miles - the traction control was cutting in constantly when pulling away on wet roads. It's absolutely fine now.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
That's good to know, thanks. Hopefully it will get better then. :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Bill Payer
>> but there just isn't that sense of "connection" with the
>> road that the old car had.

Interesting. My Merc is like that in normal driving and I've never gelled with the car. It's actually fine if driven hard and fast but my licence wouldn't last 5 mins if I drove like that.

>> Although I haven't put fuel in yet, and can't comment on the real economy, the
>> figures from the computer are staggering. For a 163 bhp engine with 100 miles on
>> the clock to be sticking >60 mpg figures on the trip averages is very impressive.
>> I never got the 318d to 50 mpg. It remains to be seen how accurate
>> this is, and I will be checking it carefully.
>>

One of my colleagues has a 320d which is a couple of months old, so must be the previous model. He says even in local use it does 50MPG and on any sort of run it's well into 60+.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
I mentioned this here before - motorbikes. My original 04 BMW12GS (big trailie thing), I was at one with that from the day I bought it - until the day I sold it, I knew its every quirk, how you had to re-boot the ignition one in 100 start, all the vibes at particular points in the rev-range - precisely which gear it was in instinctively. We were one. The RT that replaced it was more sophisticated, but I never got on with it - too perfect, too comfortable, too capable. The 2011 GS that replaced that was my friend from the start -Last week's 200 mile journey was elemental, perfect in every way, the bike as capable as the RT (new engine, loads more adjustments) - but it had that one thing a Soul. Guess you can't programme it in and its more than the sum total of sophisticated parts and software - just right.....
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 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Dave_
>> One of my colleagues has a 320d which is a couple of months old, so must be the previous model

I think you're right, I only delivered my first F30 last week. Didn't have much time to look around it as we've been flat out with 12 registrations, but it got lots of camera-phone attention on the open transporter.

Last autumn I did a "driven" delivery of a brand new, 7-mile E90 320d E/D, covering 100 miles at a steady 70-odd mph and seeing 72.4mpg on the readout. The returning 3-year-old 40k-mile non-E/D 320d gave 66mpg on the way back. Both impressive figures for such powerful, large cars.
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Tue 13 Mar 12 at 21:35
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
>> large cars.

A 3 series large? You're joking? A lot smaller than a Mondeo.

Someone asked about gears higher up - it has longer gearing on the new 3 series ED and also 16" wheels I think.

Sounds from DP's mini review that the interior has got closer to the 5 series standards. I said on here previously I sat in a 5 series (mid/low level spec) followed by a top end 3 series. The latter seemed very cheap in comparison but list price was similar.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
In terms of gearing, 6th is tall at about 40 mph / 1000 RPM. Otherwise the spacing and acceleration are fine and the ratios themselves don't seem radically different to my old 318d.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - PeterS
>> A 3 series large? You're joking? A lot smaller than a Mondeo.

To be fair, it's only around 6 inches shorter than a Mondeo hatch I think, which isn't exactly a massive difference!
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
The F30 is nearly 100mm longer than the E90, and has a much wider track, together with a 50mm longer wheelbase. You can really appreciate the extra space inside, particularly in the rear. Legroom and seat width are appreciably more generous. Yet it is allegedly 50kg lighter as well. That, I can't really notice if I'm honest :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - zippy
Thanks for the review. I am after the 320ED Touring when it comes out later this year as I could use the more flexible boot space.

If I am not allowed to wait it will have to be the Passat.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
>> I am after the 320ED Touring when it comes out later this year

Will they do an ED version of the Touring this time. Last model 3 series did not come as a Touring in ED trim. It was saloon only.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
>> >> I am after the 320ED Touring when it comes out later this year
>>
>> Will they do an ED version of the Touring this time. Last model 3 series
>> did not come as a Touring in ED trim. It was saloon only.
>>
Well, at least some countries will be able to enjoy it, though maybe it won't come to these shores.

Official dark side website:
www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/efficientdynamics/phase_1/model_3series_touring_320d_effdyn_edtion.html
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
They would be foolish not to - but they didn't last time for some reason.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - zippy
I hope they do, but of course they don't have to.

The issue is the CO2 output for BIK, otherwise I would go for another model.

If other company car users think the same way they could lose sales if they don't.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
>> The F30 is nearly 100mm longer than the E90, and has a much wider track,
>> together with a 50mm longer wheelbase. You can really appreciate the extra space inside, particularly
>> in the rear.
You won't appreciate the extra space when you come to park it, even if it does have sensors.

I'm not just picking on the 3-series here, by the way. I know it is a regular moan on this forum, but I am really annoyed at the relentless increase in size of each new generation of a given car.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Clk Sec
>>To be fair, it's only around 6 inches shorter than a Mondeo hatch I think, which isn't exactly a massive difference!<<

It is, though, especially if you are trying to work out whether or not your next new car is likely to to fit comfortably into your garage, with everything else that is stored there.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Dave_
When I described the BMW as "a large car", I meant with regards to its 70+mpg economy which you'd more readily expect from an Aygo, Smart Car or Panda. In absolute terms though, it's still a full-size family saloon in my book.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
It's consistently reporting between 60 and 63 mpg average on the commute. If it's accurate, it's astonishing for the size and performance of the car.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Just brimmed the tank and zeroed the trip. Will find out if the electronic witchcraft is telling porkies in a week or so. :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
OK, so the car is now run in, and showing just shy of 1500 miles. Just thought I'd post a few more thoughts.

I stuck to the running in rules in spirit at least, avoiding engine speeds over 3500 RPM, but allowing the engine, once warmed up (oil temperature gauge is very useful here), the odd brief burst of hard acceleration. I also tried to vary speeds and loads as much as possible. Now, at 1500 miles, the engine is very gutsy and responsibe, if still disappointingly gruff. BMW will not win any awards for refinement with this engine, although it is very smooth, thanks in part I suspect to the hideously complex flywheel fitted to this ED version.

Economy Ă­s typically running short of the combined figure, and of the fuel computer's suggestion. I'm averaging so far 55.1 mpg based on brim to brim calculations. For a fairly gutsy 5 seat saloon, it's an impressive figure, but short of the 61 mpg on the computer, and the 69 mpg official combined figure by some way. That said, I have encountered some hideous traffic over the past few weeks (one 20 mile trip took 3.5 hrs), and been exploring the performance post run-in, so I'm prepared to give it a little more time before passing judgment. I don't doubt that on a long run, and with ECO PRO mode engaged, > 60 mpg will be easily achievable.

It does go really rather well. I tend to leave it in Sport mode most of the time, as the sharper throttle response and weightier steering make the other modes feel rather dull. Acceleration is swift and instantaneous, with very little lag, and the ability in 4th and 5th gears to pull you past a ton with ridiculous ease. Overtaking performance is good too, this being tested by a crawl up the A10 to Kings Lynn last week. Tractors and artics were despatched effortlessly, without any need to row the gearbox. There are faster cars obviously, but this really does have all the performance you really need for day to day driving, and if you use all the power available, you are into illegal speeds very quickly, and more importantly, very effortlessly. It's just a shame that, motorway cruising aside, the engine's fuel type is painfully obvious from anywhere inside the car.

I was quite harsh on the handling early on, but a mix of familarity, and the scrubbing in of the Michelin Energy tyres, as suggested earlier in this thread, has improved matters. It is still not as much fun as the E90 was, being softer, more roll prone, and with less feel through the steering. But when you push it, it still has that lovely BMW balance, with the sense that both ends of the car work together in the corners. The expected understeer hasn't really emerged, and it responds well to throttle changes in the corners, allowing the line to be trimmed. Yet it still somehow lacks the feeling of confidence, and sheer "planted-ness" that made the E90 so much fun. But it is better than I initially thought.

I am enjoying the inside of the car very much. The seats and driving position are good enough to make a four hour trip completely painless, and the materials are superb. Everyone without exception who has been in the car has instantly commented on the finish, and the high standard of the materials used. The only fly in the ointment is the reflection of the dash top in the windscreen, which irritated me at first, but which I have now got used to.

The i-Drive is intuitive, and familiar enough now that I can navigate through it without any more than a brief glance at the screen. The audio system is superb compared to the E90, and a 32GB flash drive plugged into the centre cubby hole provides easily navigable MP3 sounds. It's just a shame that BMW have the gall to charge you extra on a £28000 car for proper iPod integration via the USB slot, although it has the same line level auxiliary input as the E90.

Oh, and nothing has gone wrong, broken or fallen off yet! :-) Based on very variable experiences with my previous E90s, and those of friends with more recent BMWs I know of, I am not taking reliability for granted.

So, that's about it really. Will keep you posted.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Fursty Ferret
Welcome to BMW fuel calculations. I know all manufacturers fudge the figures to some extent, but yours (and mine) fall short of the quoted figure by a good 25%.

My 120d averages 42mpg in a mixture of town and motorway driving (quoted combined is 60mpg), so regardless of how nice the new cars are I won't be having another BMW on these grounds alone.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
Many thanks for the review DP. One of the great things about a forum like this is being able to get information from real-world drivers, rather than professional reviewers who put rather too much weight on driveability IMHO.
Your review shook me up a bit, though!

If you are getting 55 mpg, then I am sure that I would get at least 60 mpg with my unhurried driving style. (I only get 47 in the Audi).

I also particularly noted these amongst your comments in the recent and original posts:
- "It is still not as much fun as the E90 was, being softer, more roll prone..." (I prefer it that way, actually!)
- "The audio system is superb compared to the E90, and a 32GB flash drive plugged into the centre cubby hole provides easily navigable MP3 sounds."
- "The interior itself is a quantum leap over the E90".

I'm feeling tempted to return to the Dark Side.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
The ride quality is one area where the F30 has been significantly improved over the E90. I'd actually go so far as to call it supple.

Helped of course by the ED version of the F30 being the only model so far to come with conventional tyres instead of runflats. That said, I would like to see a spare wheel instead of a can of gunk and a compressor which is a poor substitute IMHO.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - WillDeBeest
Does anyone's 'high efficiency' model come with a spare wheel? (I know Skoda's Greenline IIs don't, for example.) If not, does the weight saving really save a meaningful amount of fuel?

Incidentally, still with Skoda, if you order an enhanced audio system with your Superb, they take out the spare wheel to make room for the amplifier. Just as well VAG doesn't rely on the spare to power the screen washers any more.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Bagpuss
>> That said, I would like to see a spare wheel instead of a can of gunk and a compressor which is
>> a poor substitute IMHO.

Is there space in the boot of the F30 for a spare wheel? There isn't in my E90 Coupe - no spare wheel well at all.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - zippy
Thanks for the review.

I am hoping the Touring equivalent of the F30 shows up soon or my fleet manager is going to order Vectra.

As at last week, BMW wouldn't even release the pricing of the new car and that means that the lease co can't give me a price.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Just had my first sub 50 mpg tankful. 49.7 mpg over the last tank according to the calculator. Long since been ignoring the computer which claimed 55.something. But it has not been driven gently, or anything like it.

Running average over 1747 miles now stands at 52.29 mpg

 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
>> Running average over 1747 miles now stands at 52.29 mpg
And this on a car that does 0-62 in, what, eight seconds!?

You are going to need surgery to remove the grin off your face at this rate!

Unless they are getting some sort of special deal, I can't see anyone choosing a rival Audi A4 or Mercedes C-Class ahead of a 3-series, based on the reports you have given us - which I believe 100% since you've established strong credibility on this forum.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Thanks, Londoner.

It is very impressive for the performance on offer (which was well used on the last tankful), and with further use of ECO PRO mode, and a lighter foot, I don't doubt it would comfortably crack 60 mpg (best tankful was the second at 57 mpg - still running in).

I do however seriously doubt the combined 68.9 is achievable, unless you drive like a nun in perfect traffic conditions on a very long run. The little analogue MPG gauge in the rev counter will settle at 80 mpg or thereabouts in ECO PRO mode at a steady 70 mph on level ground, but how accurate this is, I have no idea.

The engine is getting stronger and more responsive seemingly by the day now. I still think it could be more refined, but its 280 lb/ft of torque makes very light work of a 1490kg car. Accelerating on to motorways or dual carriageways is a delight. A ton comes up ridiculously easily unless you exercise restraint.
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 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
First fault already. Wiper auto function has packed up, and more annoyingly the wipers no longer self park when switched off or activated via the wash function. Will get it booked in tomorrow.
Bit disappointing on an 1850 mile car.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Zero
you don't need them, there's a drought remember.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
Indicators working ?
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Zero
how would he know?
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Front fogs are still fine and it tailgates as well as ever. :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
Thank goodness for that DP - there is an image to maintain you know....


Is the Auto Wipers switch the same as in previous models, a switch on the tip of the stalk ?
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - a900ss
>> Front fogs are still fine and it tailgates as well as ever. :-)
>>
Hope the 5er I'm about to order does this as well. I'm also hoping to fit the optional 'phone to ear' driving assistance package.

:-)
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 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Just realised, we've now got our very own forum John Prescott variant...

"Two Beemers"

:-)))
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - a900ss
>> Just realised, we've now got our very own forum John Prescott variant...
>>
>> "Two Beemers"
>>
>> :-)))
>>

I'll still be in the Legacy for a few months yet....
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
>> I'm also hoping to fit the optional 'phone to ear' driving assistance package.

Doesn't it come with Bluetooth handsfree at that price? :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - a900ss
>> >> I'm also hoping to fit the optional 'phone to ear' driving assistance package.
>>
>> Doesn't it come with Bluetooth handsfree at that price? :-)
>>

Of course it does but I can't let the image down by using it!!!!

Phone in one hand, sandwich in the other.

:-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
So if you're talking on the phone using Bluetooth handsfree but holding a dummy phone.... can you be done for holding the phone ;-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
The auto function is still via the little button (and green LED) on the end of the wiper stalk.

Seems like a good old fashioned park switch failure in the motor, as the auto function does actually move the wipers a fraction when it activates.

Bluetooth is standard across the board on the F30, but incredibly it was an option on much of the E90 range. Neither my previous 318d ES or 318i SE had it.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Iffy
The rain sensor wipe function on the CC3 has stopped working two or three times.

Stopping the car and taking the key out has always got it working again...so far.

 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - rtj70
Why bother stopping? Take the key out whilst driving ;-)

I accidentally pushed the key fob in on the car last week when doing about 70mph... car did not stop but I quickly pushed it back in... need more experimenting I think. This is a VW where the key is pressed into the dash to start the car BTW.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
One of my neighbours has bought one of these - looks like a very sharp motor - evolution and not revolution. My immediate next door neighbour has bought a MINI Countryman - it would be rude to ask for a drive but I will !
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Zero

>> My immediate next door neighbour has bought a MINI
>> Countryman - it would be rude to ask for a drive but I will !

Ask him if you can drive him to specsavers.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Odd isn't it how one's perception of some cars mellows in time . The Mini Countryman mentioned above being a case in point. When I first saw one I disliked it intensely but now they've been around a while I'm much more tolerant of them. I still don't especially like them but I've stopped hating them at least. Same with new Sciroccos.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Zero
It still looks fat, lumpy and ill proportioned, after the passing of time.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
And me - a capable car by all accounts. At least she's gone for the 4x4 variant...
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Conversely, and equally inexplicably, I liked Skoda Yetis when they were first released but now they irritate me for reasons I can't fathom. Especially red ones.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
I'm drawn to the Yeti - I had a good look at one in a dealer when chasing the beige Skoda last year, They all seem to be brown, I had seriously considered one as the settling down car until the recent brain-storm.....the E90 went on to its original plates today, the dye is cast.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Don't get me wrong, I can quite see why someone might buy a Yeti. Probably a fine and useful car. There's just something about them which has started to annoy me. Don't know why. Might change my mind if I drove one and liked it. Maybe it's that current Skoda grille. Gives them an odd "face" somehow. Irrational in the extreme of course as a reason to dislike a car I know.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
In fairness the Countryman has a nice face - the rest is slightly er...challenged. I'd have one though...maybe.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
The Skoda Yeti has just been voted as best car in a large annual survey conducted by Auto Express Magazine called "Driver Power".

www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/driver_power/

I have a friend at work who has one. He loves it.
No oil painting but thoroughly competent in so many areas.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
It finally came to me in the wee small hours what it is about the Yeti that bothers me...

Look at one from the front, especially a red one, the tall roof giving it the impression it has a hat on, the huge grill for all the world a moustache, the miserable downturned expression and the red paint giving it a florid complexion.

Now think of Blakey from "On the Buses" when when he was giving Butler a hard time !...


"I 'ate you Butler"

www.friendsoforis.com/img/uploaded/image5548.jpg

www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/23648/images/94SkodaYetiLongTerm.jpg
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 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
I actually saw a red one today !
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Hmmm...the Stop/Start disable function has now stopped working. The wiper issue has also got worse to the point they just turn themselves off when they feel like it.

Going in tomorrow for some attention.

Still loving the performance. Even fully laden, the pull up the hills on the A303 yesterday and the overtaking punch on tap was very impressive.

Just hope the niggling faults don't keep appearing though. A colleague's example (identical but an auto) has a number of issues including the iDrive / computer system rebooting itself at random, a noisy climate control system, and a number of interior rattles.

 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Bagpuss
I was out in the company pool car yesterday, as mine is having the summer tires fitted:-)

Our present pool car is a 3 year old E90 320d saloon with 160,000km on the clock in poverty spec - hasn't even got alloys. What a great car though. Incredibly light footed on its high profile 185 tyres, that typical BMW precision steering and a good old punch in the back from the engine. I've driven petrol engined cars that don't rev as willingly.

Despite the mileage the interior is in good shape, as is the paintwork. Very little stone chipping, just the usual pool car scrapes which no-one seems to want to take responsibility for.

The F30 must be a cracker if BMW can top this.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Alastairw
Hope the fleet supplied for the Olympics has been thoroughly debugged. Going for my driver assessment in London in May.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Zero
Just completed my technical training today. Now fully conversant with the PMR system.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Cock up with the lease company who gave me the wrong date. Will be living with the niggles until a week tomorrow.

I put a vid up on YouTube of the latest idiotic behaviour from the wipers.

youtu.be/jpi_KjPRGUg

:-D
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
The fault is down to a duff ECU. Three week lead time for the part due to it being on back order.
Was off work today so fired up the old Golf which got me about faultlessly as always.
Ten years old, nigh on 130k, and everything works. Cannot say the same for my 7 week old, 2700 mile BMW.
Less than impressed at the moment, if I'm being completely truthful.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - a900ss
I feel for you. You don't expect a new car to break down.

You may recall that I had extended test drives of an A6 and a 520d before deciding to order the 520d. What I haven't made public before, as I didn't want to blur my feelings, is that the A6 broke down. Less than 600 miles on the clock and it had turbo issues.

It was in limp mode and maxed out at 50 mph and offered very little acceleration to get there. RAC sent a specialist Audi unit and they said it needed new parts (wouldn't say what) and that was the end of the test drive.

Wifey and kids were not impressed.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
Are they giving you a loan car ? What was their attitude like ? Mind you might be different being a company car ? I would be dancing on someone's desk..
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Reminds me of the Espace. On a trailer 16 times in two years...Yep, you read that right. Hateful, despicable, vile, useless thing.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - R.P.
Want a ciggie Humph ?
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Runfer D'Hills
Just a bit ! Noooooo, course not. Yuk....
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Can't fault the dealer. Collected the car from the front door at 8 this morning got a call at 8:30 to say the car was there and about to go into the workshop, and another call at 11 with many apologies and the bad news. At 2pm the car was back outside the house, washed and valeted.
It's still drivable, just not fixed. The fleet manager at work has said he can sort me out a pool car in the interim, if I dont want to drive it until it's all done.
The fault is annoying, but the parts backup from BMW is appalling. Dealer seemed genuinely embarrassed as well as very apologetic.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - swiss tony
I'd like to say that problems like DP and a900ss relate above are not common on today's cars.

I'd really, really like to say that.......
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - sooty123
Should have got something nice and reliable, like a lovely Avensis ;-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Londoner
Sorry to hear about your troubles, DP. :-(

At least you have a dealer that sounds reasonable. I can tell you from experience that it is no fun having to battle with the dealer as well.
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - PeterS
Sorry to hear that - anoying when a new car lets you down. The only new car that I've ever owned to have a problem (and there have been plenty of new cars due to various company schemes) was my 535d (E61 shape). That had a DSC malfunction - I have to say a 535d with no traction control can go through rear tyres pretty quickly ;-)

Peter
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
The electronic complexity of this car - and most other new cars - is unbelievable. Windscreen wipers used to simply be wired up to the battery via a switch and a fuse. Move the stalk, a connection is made, and the wipers work. Simple.
I understand something like a Start/Stop system has to be ECU controlled, but wipers? Really?
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - swiss tony
>> The electronic complexity of this car - and most other new cars - is unbelievable.
>> Windscreen wipers used to simply be wired up to the battery via a switch and
>> a fuse. Move the stalk, a connection is made, and the wipers work. Simple.
>> I understand something like a Start/Stop system has to be ECU controlled, but wipers? Really?
>>
People 'want' auto wipers...so to do that, they have to be ECU controlled.
So do auto lights, electronic parking brakes etc....
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - DP
Just an update - this was fixed last week. New "FEM body control module" fitted, and pretty much an entire day (no exaggeration) of reprogramming.

Everything now working (touch wood). They even cleaned it! :-)
 BMW - F30 320d ED first impressions - Bagpuss
Mate of mine had an early 70s VW Bus in the early 80s. The parking microswitch for the wipers failed, which meant the wipers could not be switched off except by switching off the ignition or by judicious use of the off switch to catch the wipers at exactly the right point when they would stop instantaneously.

This behavior inevitably led to the fuse for the wiper motor blowing, so it was replaced with a fuse with a higher rating. Then the motor windings burned out so the problem was finally solved with a new motor.
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