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Just did a beautiful and completely inadvertent drift around the Terminal 2 loop at Manchester Airport. You'd think the local authority might have gritted major roads like this but obviously low on their list of priorities.
I can confirm that the BMW is remarkably poised in this situation, albiet judging by the frantic flashing of warning lights I suspect I had prodigious help from the onboard computers in not sending it backwards into a lamp post.
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just been out in the new car and it was showing -8
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Been out in the car all day; Northampton to Yorkshire and return.
Cars OAT gauge is u/s but doubt it's got much over zero all day. At 13:00 the Leeds/Bradford ATIS was giving temperature as +1 but there was still hoar frost on grass.
Wind light, around 320 degrees; a rare day without a crosswind!
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Temperature below freezing and ice on the road, now thats a real surprise. Whatever next, wet roads when it is raining?
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>> wet roads when it is raining?
Not if it's -27 deg C.... the roads won't get wet ;-)
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Don't mention Winter tyres.
I did once, but I think I got away with it.
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Fingers crossed it doesn't snow tomorrow.I have a 23 mile walk over Ilkley Moor & Otley Chevin tomorrow, then a rapid hours drive home...if the roads are clear.
Better than work i suppose.
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>> Fingers crossed it doesn't snow tomorrow.I have a 23 mile walk over Ilkley Moor &
>> Otley Chevin tomorrow, then a rapid hours drive home...if the roads are clear.
>> Better than work i suppose.
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I would seriously check the weather forecast, and ponder if tomorrow is really a good day for that walk.
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Snow almost certainly on the way. At 10pm it was 0ºC here but likely to drop to -5ºC tonight. At least it's not -27ºC.
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As you say, Rob,....cold here in Paradise.
Turned the water to the washing machine off and have had a 150 watt greenhouse heater under the boiler all week.
Ted
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Got me a bit 'nervous'.... Might check the boiler etc in the cellar in a minute :-) Washing machine in the cellar too.... I was down there a few times today and yesterday and all fine. External tap and condensate outlet also well insulated.
I assume you're on a fixed tariff for electric with that 150 watt heater? It soon adds up.
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Its now -2 here tonight, expecting -5 by end of the night. We had much colder last year, nearly double that.
Dire warnings of heavy snow -10cm here - starting tomorrow night. I am off up to Wembley tomorrow afternoon for my Olympic Games training, so I should get back before it hits.
I don't see it as a problem tho - drove past heathrow just as it was closing down due to heavy snow, and I was on - wait for it - non winter tyres.
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>> I have a 23 mile walk over Ilkley Moor ..........
B'aht 'at?
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Went to work this morning it was -12C, kept my T-shirt on.
Went to the airport and put some extra deoderant on as it was getting up to single figures sub-zero.
Got off the plane in Newcastle, it was above freezing so well into T-shirt weather borderline naked.
*tongue firmly placed in cheek*Yiz iz aal a punch o'puffs !*tongue removed from cheek*
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i was going to start a "winter tyrs on my new Jaguar" thread but i didnt want to face the Lnych mob
:-)
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It was -8.2C and falling when I left home in Leics at 2.20am, I'll find out how low it ultimately reached later. The lorry readout varied from -8C up to -3C and back down again several times on the journey down to the south coast. Only just freezing on the front at Brighton, but -5C again a couple of miles inland.
-3C currently at the London end of the M23 but the sun's out so I think it'll only go one way. No cloud in sight yet :/
Those heated windscreens are jolly useful ;)
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got to -5.5 here last night, its now a heady -2.2.
Heavy snow due to arrive here at 18:00
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>> got to -5.5 here last night, its now a heady -2.2.
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>> Heavy snow due to arrive here at 18:00
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Whats all this "heavy snow" I have only seen 10cm forecast for the south, we had 4' of snow for weeks last winter with double digit minus temperatures. I think that is over a metre in new money.
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Heavy snow
Known in the north as a light dusting.
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>> Heavy snow
>> Known in the north as a light dusting.
Or in colder climes, as summertime!
:)
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No frost, no wind, clear skies and just above freezing point here.
There will be a little warmth from the sun later, so time to get the roof down on the CC3.
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Ah yes . All convertible owners have to convince themselves that a convertible is not just fun for a few summer evenings (true) but its really fun all the year round. Enjoy ;-)
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Your posts are sour faced and confrontational this morning - wrong side of the bed?
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Are they? Not meant to be but I note your observation.
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Minus 6 in my neck of the woods this morning, but I don't think I'll need the parka, fur lined boots, goggles and long-johns that I had to wear at one time.
CG's posts sour? Not from where I'm standing!
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...I note your observation...
Which is all it was, nothing wrong with a bit of sour facedness and confrontation now and again.
I could hardly say otherwise, could I?
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Managed to get the Merc a wee bit ( thankfully perfectly controllably ) sideways this morning on an empty roundabout despite the best efforts of all it's electronic wizardry to prevent it. Had to go round again for the hell of it. I'd quite forgotten about my inner hooligan after a couple of decades of terminally understeering FWDs and 4x4s. Bring it on ! Suddenly just remembered, driving is fun isn't it?
:-)
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>>driving is fun isn't it?
It can be in RWD cars this time of year, as long as you're not between a rock and the other place.
'Terminally understeering' suits me better.
:)
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...It can be in RWD cars this time of year...
And I imagine Humph's estate is just as much fun as the saloon, which wouldn't have been the case years ago.
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....also just discovered you can still use the flappy paddles even when full auto mode is selected. Nice...
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...just discovered you can still use the flappy paddles even when full auto mode is selected. Nice...
I was thinking more about equivalent handling, but it's a good point that estates now come with just as many toys as the saloon.
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-11C this morning in Stamford Lincs. Rushed out to get bevvies and snax for watching the Six Nations, before I get snowed in!
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Scotland v England eh? Hmmm
"Oh Flowers of..."
:-)
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-9°C on the A30 through Camberley at 8:30 this morning. Absolutely no drama though. Beautiful, crisp winter day.
Spoke to a Dutch mate last night. Heavy snow in Amsterdam yesterday and -16°C this morning.
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Didn't think you was Norwich a bit of banter.>:)
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Cold here +3 and raining hard, I think these are the clouds that will bear snow over England this afternoon - marginal for snow - could go either way, going out to play with the X1 in a minute - There should be snow on the mainland, Anglesey is mild - even last winter in that famous sat. shot of the UK, Anglesey north was the only green bit !
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8447023.stm
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>>even last winter in that famous sat. shot of the UK, Anglesey north was the only green bit !<<
Envy?
:)
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Cold?
Nah
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTE5ku1lvmE
The canal was not frozen yesterday!
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My connection must be geddin better! - amazing vid, thanks!
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Definitely on the change here. At 07:30 we had bright sunshine through haze and -8, wind calm.
High cloud appeared by 10:00 and now there's a solid grey overcast, light variable breeze and temp up to 1.5.
Pressure falling but not dramatically so far; 1022 at 10:30 now 1020.
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Now down to 1015/0.4. Wind in Daventry an hour ago had flags flying.
Bit of spindrift in air around 15:30 - 16:00 has settled but not serious.
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A fair bit of snow has settled outside my gaffe this afternoon. Looks like the recently purchased spikes will get their first outing tomorrow.
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Bit icy out there! - I`ll say!
set off to the Allotment on me push-bike and ended up doing three doughnuts! - stopped, restarted, but couldn`t get any grip, - ended up doing a rear-tyre burn-out!
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Just returned from work in Ripon. The swimming pool boiler seemed to have been off since this morning and it was perishing in the water. Kids blue and teeth chattering.
Gentle cruise up the A1 at -2 to -3 through the 50 limit and then off the motorway at Catterick and a chance to test Mrs H's front only winter tyres (Zero, look away now). Braked heavily to provoke the ABS on the exit slip and took controlled drifts through the T-junctions into the village. Heh heh I am a hooligan.
According to HJ's column last week I have a '60s mentality and should be upside down in a ditch, but it all felt very civilised from the cabin.
This is the journey I normally do by motor bike. Discretion, valour etc.
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>> Wind in Daventry an hour ago had flags flying
The Tesco turbines at Crick were turning at a fair whack about 2.00pm, in contrast to the big set out at Deeping St Nicholas yesterday which were all but stationary.
I also saw at least a dozen gritter lorries going the other way on the first 100 miles of the M1, the salt must be ankle-deep in places.
It started to snow as I was in the car about 4 miles from home. The final mile was a touch hairy, as snow was settling on the A-road surface very quickly and there was precious little traction to be had. My car is now under 5cm of the stuff, and I can't see the handles on the wheely bin. Glad I don't have any plans this side of Sunday lunchtime :)
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spindrift ! In Daventry ??
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+8 and rain here.
22 indoors (Tenerife!) bin burning the Taybrite for the last 10 days, banking it up high every 12 hours - amazing fuel and amazing multi-fuel stove ... I'm luving it.
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Its 1c and light snow here.
I was light snow at Uxbridge at 18:30, well not snow more like fine ice powder. Now here in Surrey we have the heavy wet type of snow, the British type, the stuff that gets in your face but dont settle.
We are promised heavy heavy snow from 21:00 but I doubt it - it wont settle if it does, it'll just be slush in the morning.
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Snowing increasingly heavily in Northants, pressure now down to 1009. Probably a couple of inches on road but in spite of temp around freezing it still feels very wet.
'Kids' (17 and 19) have gone for walk round village- suspect snow fight is being sought.
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>> spindrift ! In Daventry ??
According to wikipedia:
'Relatedly, spindrift can also be used to describe fine sand or snow that is blown off by the wind.
Ok, in this case it was loose 'snizzle' but same effect.
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Show shower driving home temp minus 1 Yorkshire.Had a nice meal with daughter and son in law.
Not going anywhere tonight relaxing.
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Snowing like mad in Yateley. Parked the BMW up about 8pm, snow free after being thoroughly warmed up after a good hour's drive back from Oxford and it's already completely white.
RWD is so much fun in snow though. :-)
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My old clapped out VW Beetles where rear wheel drive never had any problem driving in snow.>:)
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Skinny tyres Dutchie and the weight over the back wheels.
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Snowing heavily here now. Freesat signal lost
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...Freesat signal lost...
Even super Sky can be stopped by snow.
Sometimes caused by snow settling on the dish, which can be knocked off with a broom if you can bodge one with a long enough handle.
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Agree RP they kept on going little aircooled engine rubbish heaters,you know I miss driving one nice gear change but no boot.
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Meant it literally. Huge fun. Lazy, slow-mo powerslides and thoroughly predictable. Perfectly well behaved when not being deliberately provoked :-)
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Its a BMW one of the best cars made and expensive should be able to cope with a bit of fluff.
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Well I had a wonderful day out...off at 7 and enjoyed a lovely sunrise, then 23 miles on the Rombalds Stride Winter Challenge. 10 miles in it began to snow, then almost blizzard conditions over Ilkley Moor and the remaining 13 miles were definitely a challenge. Wished I had taken my ski goggles it was so horizontal at times, but got round in exactly 7.5 hours...the runners did it in 4!Nutters in shorts.
Foul conditions for the jets landing at LBA, but great views from the top of Otley Chevin of the runway lights through the falling snow.
Atrocious driving conditions on the way home..Guiseley to Settle was a bit of a white knuckle ride with lots of abandoned cars & vans, but fortunately little traffic. Without my Michelin Alpins I would be in a B & B somewhere, and losing a days wages tomorrow, so some payback at last.Driving sensibly the traction was amazing, although I was lucky that where cars were stranded in my lane, especially on uphill sections of the A65 where they lost grip, there was no oncoming thus allowing me to get past. If I had had to stop it could have been a different story.
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It snowed a bit at dusk here. But it's been raining for hours now and the snow has disappeared. Feels warmer too.
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You should passed that one by, it could all have gone TU!
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I woke an hour ago to a starnge noise and got up to investigate.
Ginger seemed to be trying, and failing to get out of the cat flap.
I opened the door to let him out to find snow has drifted at least 2' up the door.
He looked at me in disgust and decided food might be a good idea first ,as I wanted a coffee, I agreed with him and will investigate further as daylight comes!
Pat
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A good covering here in HoT, too. I'd stay home and sit it out, but I'm due in Sonning, seven miles away, for the last session of my course. Others, including the course leaders, have further to come than me, so we'll have to wait and see.
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Stamford Lincs report.One inch of wet snow, foggy and +1C. Walking to shop for the paper and car stays put. Sister is trying Berks to North Wales today which may work, depending more on the ice state than the snow I think.
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Two or three inches in Northampton. Finished snowing around midnight and temperature rose briefly to around two celcius; snow falling off cars etc.
Now freezing again and foggy.
Lots on news about 'thousands' stuck on the M25. Gritters and ploughs all out but people still grind to a stop. Muppets being interviewed on radio say it's all HA's fault 'it's the M25 for heaven's sake'. No concession about why they set off on social/pleasure jaunts in face of yesterday's forecast.
HA guys reporting they have to teach those at front of queue how to get moving in snow.
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>> HA guys reporting they have to teach those at front of queue how to get
>> moving in snow.
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Its the South East, I'm surprised it is allowed to snow. I thought the sun shone out of it.
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>> Lots on news about 'thousands' stuck on the M25. Gritters and ploughs all out but
>> people still grind to a stop. Muppets being interviewed on radio say it's all HA's
>> fault 'it's the M25 for heaven's sake'. No concession about why they set off on
>> social/pleasure jaunts in face of yesterday's forecast.
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>> HA guys reporting they have to teach those at front of queue how to get
>> moving in snow.
I went round the M25 twice yesterday late afternoon. They were laying a carpet of grit so thick it was like the Sahara desert, and snow ploughs were parked at strategic points. Dire warnings about bad weather coming were plastered on every warning gantry.
What more can you expect the HA to do, yet still reporters were prompting interviewees to try and load blame on the "authorities"
None of them ask "you knew this was coming - why are you stuck here"
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= = => We are promised heavy heavy snow from 21:00 but I doubt it - it wont settle if it does, it'll just be slush in the morning <= = =
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>>None of them ask "you knew this was coming - why are you stuck here"
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16895996
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>> >>None of them ask "you knew this was coming - why are you stuck here"
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>> www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16895996
the girl interviewed said one thing that stuck with me. - The lanes on a Motorway just disappear.
Driving ont he M25 in the last big dump of snow that shut Heathrow, all semblance of being on a motorway just disappear, specially on the the big 6 lane wide section round Heathrow.
You have the choice of following someone's tyre tracks or making your own. In the end there was just one set to follow somewhere in the middle, till scared that i might get stuck behind someone and loose momentum, I struck off on making my own. It was like driving down the main runway at Heathrow
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Fabulous ( if slightly disturbing ) quote from that article...
"I stayed in my car because I was cold, people were getting out and putting anti-freeze in their cars, trying to keep them going"
Eh?
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I used to love snow and ice for the fun and the challenge, but that was a long time ago. It makes me scowl and frown these days.
Last time I had to go any distance in heavy snow, three or four years ago now, was coming back from Bristol to London up the M4. Snow was a foot deep in places, and still coming down heavily, but the road had been salted and it was fairly slushy. But so deep that the entire slow lane was down to a pathetic crawl.
My car has quite wide tyres and like most cars FWD. It's American so it doesn't mind the cold, but it's got a low chin spoiler so doesn't like deep snow much. In the end I slotted in a respectable distance behind a lorry that was doing about 40 up the middle lane. That worked well, but of course the whole thing was quite tense and tiring. You have to stay on top of it because a small wriggle can so easily turn into a serious bit of sideways, and all driver inputs need to be unusually delicate and prompt. What you really don't need is to go under the back of a lorry because you haven't maintained concentration. Knackering.
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I've mentioned this before but then we are in the habit of repeating ourselves here so I feel no real guilt...
:-)
My father gave me what I have found to be the best snow and ice driving tip ever. He advised me to imagine a glass of wine balanced on my bonnet. Once done, you can now drive as fast as you like but just don't do anything which would cause the imaginary wine to topple.
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>> we are in the habit of repeating ourselves here
Speak for yourself, I say, speak for yourself...
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Good morning just spent.
Off out to Argoos to buy a new kettle, stopped off at the Brooklands park to run the dog, and watch the kids tabogan down the Byfleet banking. Huge lurid handbrake induced donuts in the car park with Nicole shouting and thumping my arm telling me to stop it and fifi stuck to the rear side windows like Garfield.
Then off to Mercedes Benz World for coffee, only to find that David Coulthard was out on the skid pan in some massively overpowered and undergripped MB open top sports car thing trying to round with the tail out. He constantly ended up going backwards to sarcastic applause from the audience. (Me)
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5" deep in sunny East Northants, just been out and topped the bird feeders up, little blighters are a bit desperate and have been for the last few days, a month ago it was so mild there was a quarter the number.
The hound seems to have fogotten what snow is and had to be tempted out, but once out she rushed round like billio laughing...no doubt about it dogs do laugh.
Had to go out last night at 11pm to travel about 18 miles round trip, about 4" of the stuff falling heavily, lots of stuck vehicles on the hills, but being a quiet Saturday late we drove past them without problem, on the return journey we took to the villages and country routes to avoid the two steep hills one of which was blocked by an artic anyway and that would not have changed.
RWD again proved itself as safer, more predictable, and easier to control than FWD for bad weather, albeit with the correct tyres and a bit of weight in the right place, no one else got out of our approach road, an abandoned Micra at the bottom of the our hill when we returned despite its skinny tyres.
The most dangerous car/driver encountered was in the C4 Picasso which had tyres spinning at unbelievable rpm and snaking violently from one side of the road to another whilst moving an inch forward at a time, i'd lay odds it was fitted with the gearbox designed by satan.
Lots of accident damaged cars abandoned, and hardly surprising given the idiocy of some encountered, some tailgaiting at the their default setting of 10ft regardless of anything, you end up driving for them to avoid having them hit you, numpties.
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My, what adventures you are all having.
I'm almost - but not quite - jealous.
No snow here, some rain/sleet last night.
Just on freezing, which I reckon is ideal conditions to turn last night's precipitation into black ice.
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>>Just on freezing, which I reckon is ideal conditions to turn last night's precipitation into black ice.
Well, you've always got your spikes to fall back on. Metaphorically speaking.
:)
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...Well, you've always got your spikes to fall back on. Metaphorically speaking...
The only falling I do at present really does need to be only metaphorical.
If I knock the new hip out, it would be tears before bedtime, and lots of them.
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RWD again proved itself as safer, more predictable, and easier to control than FWD for bad weather, albeit with the correct tyres and a bit of weight in the right place<<
Good report gb and interesting what you say about RWD - I take it 'on board' although I don't necessarily agree that statement but, coming from you I'll have to think about it,
And what's this "a bit of weight in the right place"??
Surely a well balanced FWD car with a 'bit of weight in the right place' (i.e. the engine) would be just as good
(with the correct tyres of course!)
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>> RWD again proved itself as safer, more predictable, and easier to control than FWD for
>> bad weather,
As you cant actually get the car moving, Its bound to be all of those things*
I'll plough on by with my FWD thank you.
*nada nada nada if you have the skill blather blather... I'll say just one thing. Monte Carlo Rally - Mini.
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>> RWD again proved itself as safer, more predictable, and easier to control than FWD for
>> bad weather, albeit with the correct tyres and a bit of weight in the right
>> place, no one else got out of our approach road, an abandoned Micra at the
>> bottom of the our hill when we returned despite its skinny tyres.
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>> The most dangerous car/driver encountered was in the C4 Picasso which had tyres spinning at
>> unbelievable rpm and snaking violently from one side of the road to another whilst moving
>> an inch forward at a time, i'd lay odds it was fitted with the gearbox
>> designed by satan.
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Like your car, with the right tyres and 2 seconds with the manual even Satan's gearbox will more than cope with ice and snow. Select second gear with the flappy paddle in manual or auto mode and off it plods. Summer tyres, EGS and people who don't know what they're doing do not make comfortable viewing on ice and snow.
Then again, a comment elsewhere on this thread about drivers at the front of the queue on the M25 having to be taught how to move off, they can't all have been in EGS equipped C4 Picassos.
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2c here, snow very wet, turning rapidly to slush, no more than 2" fell last night,
Disappointed of Surrey.
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About 6-7" fell here in North Kent & no sign of it thawing. Only seen 1 car go past. Am thinking that i should go and clear it off of the car and shift the foot deep drift that has built up in front of it before it freezes again tonight - but have only got as far as thinking about doing it so far !
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We were on the M40 at 7ish yesterday evening. It was snowing hard and lane 3 had a covering of lying snow. Still saw idiots in Range Rovers and Subarus doing 90+ in some kind delusional belief that 4WD will allow them to stop quicker or change direction if needed. Idiotic driving.
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>> RWD again proved itself as safer, more predictable, and easier to control than FWD for
>> bad weather, albeit with the correct tyres and a bit of weight in the right
>> place, no one else got out of our approach road, an abandoned Micra at the
>> bottom of the our hill when we returned despite its skinny tyres.
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>> The most dangerous car/driver encountered was in the C4 Picasso which had tyres spinning at
>> unbelievable rpm and snaking violently from one side of the road to another whilst moving
>> an inch forward at a time,
RWD = lack of traction, still have (some) steering
FWD = lack of traction, (total) loss of steering
Last year my FWD decided to turn 180 degrees on a hill, because it lost traction, then immediately steering, the front end just letting go... good job no-one behind me or coming down the hill.
A hill, that I have been up before, in similar conditions in a RWD (A little crab-like, Ill admit... )
;-)
Nuff said.
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>> RWD = lack of traction, still have (some) steering
Nope - no steering, in fact the flailing back end is doing the steering for you. That does not have a steering wheel.
>> FWD = lack of traction, (total) loss of steering
Nope. Stick your toe down spin up the front wheels and you get steering back
>> Nuff said.
Monte carlo rally, Mini FWD Nuff said.
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>> Others, including the course leaders, have further to come than me, so we'll have to wait and see.
A friend has taken a couple of architectural steel beams from the Midlands to a City of London construction site this morning. All the workers are on site but the crane won't unload him due to the weather, so he's on his way back with them. Ironically, they'll have to be unloaded by hand (into deeper snow) when he gets here.
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I wonder how many of the people who are having "fun" in their rear wheel drive cars are using cars bought with their own hard earned cash or cars leased for them by an employer?
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On which they pay several hundred pounds a month in tax.....
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>> On which they pay several hundred pounds a month in tax.....
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And gets replaced FOC if they break it.
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Yes thats right. Companies wilfully hand out valuable assets to careless employees without invoking disciplinary procedures. No company car driver has to party a hefty insurance excess. Honestly...
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>> Yes thats right. Companies wilfully hand out valuable assets to careless employees without invoking disciplinary
>> procedures. No company car driver has to party a hefty insurance excess. Honestly...
Or had the company car withdrawn, or been sacked, Honestly.
Company cars are the most tracked and measured corporate things on earth.
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I have a £500 insurance excess deducted out of the next months pay packet, the right of the company to withdraw the car, and an ongoing disciplinary process if it was deemed my negligence caused the damage. It would actually be cheaper and have fewer repercussions to prang our Golf than the company BMW.
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I read somewhere that Charles Dickens based his mean miserable Scrooge type characters on real people, Until just now I though that was a load of billhooks.
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Still a fair bit of snow here although I think it'll melt. Foggy too. Ours is a "private" road so doesn't get treated by the council. Just watched a female neighbour getting all Torvil and Dean in her Focus at the end of the road. Didn't seem to occur to her that the road was covered in frozen snow, she tried to take a sharpish right hander at normal dry road speed with predictable kerb contacting results.
Another neighbour has just shown me where he collected a Smart car up the rear end of his ( well, his wife's car ) this morning. His/her car has a cracked number plate and rear bumper but apparently the Smart isn't very well. Evidently his wife blames him for borrowing her car.
One side effect of all this is that the snow has washed all the salt stains off my car which should be black. I was only thinking yesterday how well its lines suited off-white...
All good fun.
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If the snow here carries on melting at it's present rate, it'll be pretty much gone by mid afternoon.
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Must make all those winter tyres seem like a bit of a bargain then. All those Sunday papers safely bought and returned to base on the one day it has snowed so far !
:-)
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Seven green thumbs, Zero would have mega flounced by now. :-)
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8 actually.
A mans worth is measured on here by the scowly faces, not the green thumbs
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>> I wonder how many of the people who are having "fun" in their rear wheel
>> drive cars are using cars bought with their own hard earned cash or cars leased
>> for them by an employer?
Anymore of this ON and you'll have to change your username to Steptoe.
About 6 inches here in East Anglia. Main roads are all fine. Just about to knock all the snow off the car before it freezes tonight. Tomorrow will be interesting for work.
Birds in the garden are in a feeding frenzy. Poor things are sinking in up to their beaks. There's a chaffinch getting cold feet - occasionally he'll stand on one leg :)
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it started to snow last night in chichester but gave up a few hours later and now sunny and all clear. i was looking forward to learning how to use a rwd Jaguar in the snow
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>> Anymore of this ON and you'll have to change your username to Steptoe.
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It seem that the freebe luxobarge drivers don't even need a prod with a sharp stick, just a little bait does the job.
Just keep on paying the car taxes, it funds my pensions. :-)
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There was about ten inches of snow on our drive this morning. It took me about three hours to clear it onto the lawn. I was just pleased we've got a block paved drive which tolerated the snow shovel moving across the surface, and not a gravel drive which must be a right pain to try to clear.
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Just been out for a 2 mile circuit with the dogs - 8.5 C - a gentle breeze - blue skies and a warming sun Frozen Britain(according to the 1 o'clock news), my Harris Tweed !
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Bit icy out there! - nyx2k
