How much would you pay to be driven round the M25 on a coach tour, learning ‘interesting facts about the motorway’s evolution’?
£0? £5? £10? More?
tinyurl.com/d4n3cna (apologies - links to the unspeakable DMa)
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Any different to looking at trains?
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If you spent your working day driving trains you might have less enthusiasm for train-spotting.
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You couldn't have less enthusiasm for trainspotting than me. Just making the point that an interest in viewing the M25 is intrinsically no differerent to an interest in railways or airports all of which have their enthusiasts.
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>> You couldn't have less enthusiasm for trainspotting than me.
And you so close to the North Norfolk Railway.
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Sometimes go for a walk that way through Sheringham Park and will admit to sometimes stopping to watch the steam train go by .
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Truck spotters will love it.
How many different countries trucks have you seen ?
Plus a special prize for spotting any stowaways from Calais.
It might deter "the target group" from venturing on any motorway!
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"The trip will stop off at points of interest such as...."
Would there dare ???
We have just passed near the famous Chessington Zoo... followed by
This is the country home of a quiet retired chap who drives a Lancer.
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I am getting less bushy-tailed with age, can't afford the jalopy or the fines and lawyers' bills, and there are too many automatic bear traps and the like these days, but I always fancied getting my hands on the right car and trying for a sub-1-hour lap of the 25. It must be possible at the right time of night even now with a bit of luck. I even have a feeling that some splendid and lucky so-and-so has done it.
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>> Any different to looking at trains?
I should be a guide on some of the tours. I could point out where it takes the route of the Westerham Valley Railway, and the remains of Chevening halt and Brasted goods yard.
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I always admire the foresight of the builders of the Chalfont railway viaduct in allowing just enough room to fit a motorway underneath the arches
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Tornado will be steaming over that Tomorrow morning at 08:30 Give PEAS a chance I say!
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"Give PEAS a chance "
"PEAS' is the tag of a London graffiti artist and his tag can been seen in many other locations, particularly on bridges. The additional text changing the graffiti to read 'GIVE PEAS A CHANCE' is thought to refer to his continual arrests. The common misinterpretation of the inscription makes bridge a interesting landmark to users of the M25."
All you want to know and more about the Chalfont Viaduct
library.thehumanjourney.net/163/1/GCCVIA09.pdf
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>> I always admire the foresight of the builders of the Chalfont railway viaduct in allowing
>> just enough room to fit a motorway underneath the arches
I have exactly the same thought onthe odd occasions I travel that bit of the M25. Mind you, the GCR was forward looking. Built to continental gauge and intended to link Manchester with Paris.
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>> M25. Mind you, the GCR was forward looking. Built to continental gauge and intended to
>> link Manchester with Paris.
Paris had the foresight to turn them away.
They had to divert a river to get the motorway to fit under.
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Actually, Lyne Railway bridge is really quite attractive engineering.
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Last edited by: Zero on Thu 29 Dec 11 at 17:10
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Sorry Zero, but I reckon the Lyne Railway bridge is really quite the most hideous and unattractive bridge ever. It looks very heavy and grossly overdesigned. It gives the impression of design by textbook with no flair evident at all.
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Well come round here I'll give you a much needed slap then. One of the first cable stayed railway bridges in Europe. Grant you its not thin and elegant, but it provides a much needed dash of form, and shape and breaks up a singularly architecturally depressing ring of concrete
(with the exception of the QE2 bridge that is)
Actually, the single most impressive, and visually stunning bit of the M25 you never see, unless you walk the canal path under the New Haw Viaduct.
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"The New Haw Viaduct at Byfleet, Surrey, carries the motorway over the London - Portsmouth/Southampton railway line and the River Wey Navigation Canal which is owned by the National Trust. The viaduct, which is 285m long, was designed by Gifford and Partners and is of an elegant, yet simple, design consisting of seven spans of post-tensioned in-situ concrete construction with an eighth span of pre-cast concrete beams to facilitate the construction over the busy railway line."
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For others outside Surrey.
Go compare !
ciht.org.uk/motorway/m25papers4.htm
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>>tinyurl.com/d4n3cna (apologies - links to the unspeakable DMa)<<
If it's that bad, no one should know what's on it because no one looks on it.
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Our viaduct fits over the motorway too!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stockport_viaduct_M60.jpg
Istr Europe's largest brick built structure.
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Look at that horrid Overhead Line Equipment
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Alistair's pic is a little deceptive as the motorway is raised up in the arch. The M60 at the point in the picture is actually on the trackbed of the Midland Railway with the site of Tiviot Dale station just beyond the arch. The full height is shown a bit further south...
tinyurl.com/bot88jl
All passenger trains crossing the viaduct must stop at Stockport station under a covenant madewhen building was agreed. The viaduct is actually two joined together in width to increase the tracks to 4. You can see the join under each arch.
It may have unsightly electric supports but I bet our viaduct could beat your viaducts in a fight anyday. Even if all your's ganged up on it ! So there !
Ted
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M25 sight-seeing tour - CGNorwich
