I tried to read the long previous All season tyres thread but got lost in 260 replies!
I soon need to replace tyres in my FWD car [205/55R16]. Can you just recommend good all season tyres? I am happy to spend up to £90 per tyre but I expect them to last at least 30k miles and good performance in both winter and summer.
Reading the web reviews, I have shortlisted following
Vredestein Quatrac 3 [proper all season]
Nokian WRG2 [predominantly winter tyre]
Continental WinterContact TS830 [predominantly winter]
Please add more...
As these tyres are bit uncommon, my local stockists may not have all of them. So I like to keep a list of few choices in order of preference.
I am bit skeptical about pure winter tyres as real bad winter lasts only few weeks at most.
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Do a forum search for 'Primacy HP' . Plenty of positive comments. £88 for a 91W in your size when I last bought some. Not an all-season, I know, but do you really need one?
Last edited by: WillDeBeest on Mon 12 Sep 11 at 15:46
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>> Not an all-season, I know, but do you really need one?
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That's a very good question, Will. I tend to agree, but playing devils advocate . . .
Maybe the OP doesn't actually need all-season tyres, and maybe they wouldn't notice any difference compared to summer tyres.
OTOH, I'm sure that most of us would feel more confident and comfortable in wintry conditions if we knew that we had all-season tyres on the car.
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>> Not an all-season, I know, but
>> do you really need one?
It all depends on where you live and how bad it gets on your particular roads, how many ungritted hills you have in you area, and how much need there is to travel on bad days. But I'd like to think that you'd have better braking performance whether the roads are hilly or not.
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...and how much need there is to travel on bad days...
And has been mentioned before, how many cars there will be stuck in front of you which are not fitted with super-duper tyres.
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>> And has been mentioned before, how many cars there will be stuck in front of
>> you which are not fitted with super-duper tyres.
Well that depends on what time you are venturing out in the morning. Some of us have to get up early you know, can't spend all morning drinking tea and making sour faces at the weather outside :)
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...Some of us have to get up early you know...
You might beat me on the way out, but it will be me you are stuck behind on the way home.
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>> You might beat me on the way out, but it will be me you are
>> stuck behind on the way home.
Roads will be clear by then.
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>>I tried to read the long previous All season tyres thread but got lost in 260 replies!<<
Haha! ... I went for the Nokians movilogo and I'm going to use them 365 but - they're not easy to come by,
Check out the Bridgestone A001 all weather jobbies
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After much research and consideration, just bought Goodyear Vector 4Seasons from 'Oponeo'. Proper efficient service and good prices, using PayPal to pay. 5 days delivery by DPD. Where are they?.....Poland, of course. The lady on the (0800 freephone) customer service line speaks better English than I do.
Other option was Vredestien Quatrac 2 or 3. From same place or TyreMen, or MyTyre or Camskill (when they get them later this month). Look at Oponeo's and MyTyres websites, there's loads on there.
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Not sure what car movilogo has but if it is a diesel then 30k may be a big ask for an all season tyre.
Don't forget they have markers at 4mm below which they are no longer really considered winter tyres (in Europe anyway). Yes, you can still use them in the summer down to 1.6mm but they don't have the grip.
I'd recommend Hankook Optimo 4S. We've got them on a 1.6 turbodiesel, they've been on a year and the fronts are down to about 5mm after 10k miles. They will be swapped to the back for the coming winter. This will give us two winters use but I doubt the set would do a third year.
By contrast on my car I have summer tyres of 225/45 x 17 (Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3) and 205/55 x 16 (Goodyear UltraGrip 7+) for the winter. My winter tyres will be going on for the fourth season this year and will probably be good for a 5th year before they get to 4mm.
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The Continentals are definitely winter tyres and according to an Auto Express test report this year will not be brilliant in the summer. However, depending on the car and how you drive, they may be more than adequate for you. BUT I have them fitted to the front of my 9-5 Aero estate in the same size that you want, and they have worn quicker than any other winter tyres I've had - they are just above the 4mm winter tyre bar after less than 10,000 miles. OK, it's a heavy powerful car, but I'd expected better, and they weren't noticeably better than any others I've had for grip in the ice & snow. The Michelin Alpin PA3s I have had previously were very good for wear, I reckon the fronts would have made 30k.
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>>Not sure what car movilogo has
Kia Ceed petrol 1.6 auto
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I was inpressed reading about Vredestein .The way they make the tyres and general background.
Well run company and quality stuff.
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>> >>Not sure what car movilogo has
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>> Kia Ceed petrol 1.6 auto
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Depends where in the country you live and if you have to negotiate any climbs/drops.
For years people have managed on the standard UK tyre through the winter months.
Until I was forced by law to run winter/all season tyres I managed (Colway remoulds while I was at Uni) but having used winter tyres now I do not think I'd go back to standard tyres suits all conditions given the choice.
A 1.6 petrol should get good life out of any decent tyres unless you are permanently on a hot Top Gear lap.
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Movilogo, just put a piar of Kleber Quadraxers on my wife's Beetle - 205/55/R16 - £86 each so just within your budget.
Can't say how good/bad or indifferent they are at this stage obviously but I think it is the same make that Fenlander has been running.
Obviously various pros / cons to all weather tyres but my thought process in this case has been:
Missus only does about 8k per year
Never drives anywhere near the limits of the car so at no risk of pushing the boundaries of perceived less grip in summer
We live in Scotland so not the hottest country
She is a nurse so her shifts mean that she is either starting at 7am or finishing at 10pm, both times when the temp will be on the lower end of the scale.
In winter, at these times she may be setting off on frosty / icy roads
The Hospice where she works is down a steepish hill that caused huge problems in the snow last year. These just might make the difference to her getting up the hill easier if the snow arrives.
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Hey! as long as she can get to work, who cares about her getting home again.
Fits some slicks on it.
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So who makes the dinner, does the washing, cleans those yucky marks you get round the drain of the shower?
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>> So who makes the dinner, does the washing, cleans those yucky marks you get round
>> the drain of the shower?
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Ah, a real man that turns into a starving, stinking, slob when left without female supervision. :)
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Keleber Quadraxer, Pirelli P6 4 Seasons, come in comfortably under budget, well they do from Mytyres and allow enough leeway to pay the man your end to fit 'em should he struggle.
Vred Quatrac and Nokian All Weather Plus are slightly over budget from there which makes no allowance for fitting, though both makes are good and made in Holland or Finland respectively, hopefully your man can do better.
Checking Camskills, there's a lot in your size showing 'No Stock and No Delivery Date', which is a bit concerning, and i have a feeling the prices might be creeping up.
I wouldn't leave it any longer to get them in even if you don't fit them just yet.
EDIT, that Nokian looks identical to their WR Winter, which is regarded as one of the best winter tyres ever made.
Last edited by: gordonbennet on Tue 13 Sep 11 at 11:37
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Just to let y'all know - I sourced my Nokian WR G2's from Mytyres, but only b'cos Blackcircles couldn't supply them,
Blackcircles are more efficient than Mytyres IMO but, it's the end result that matters, innit.
I also mentioned C4P on their feedback thingy where it says "where did you hear of us", good ain't I.
:-)
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The reason Camskill show 'No Stock' is that they're awaiting stock at the end of the month. They told me to watch the website which is updated at 9am daily. Very helpful people ,I found
I mentioned the place I got mine from earlier, but no-one has acknowledged or commented on it, despite my saying how good their service was or how well stocked they seem to be. (I'm not part of the C4P set, I guess). I also mentioned Camskill's availability at the end of the month in my post.
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I did take note where you sourced your tyres from kb (Oponeo)
I've never heard of them though, although I'd already placed my order with Mytyres.
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>> The reason Camskill show 'No Stock' is that they're awaiting stock at the end of
>> the month.
They don't say that though KB, some of their tyres are showing No Delivery Date, some other show delivery due on so and so.
I like Camskills, have bought from them often and recently bought a set of all seasons for my daughters car, i always look there when short listing.
I was pleasantly surprised that they were in stock, they were brilliant about 5 years ago but in the intervening period they've regularly emailed to say they have no stock when i've ordered and would i like to choose an alternative, a little annoying cos you have to strike quickly anywhere when the right deal appears, and i've missed Mytyres offers whilst Camskills couldn't maintain their availability properly.
More recently they seem to have their No Stock notices better listed so maybe they've got someone better at the helm now, i fully expected the no can do email this last time but indeed they supplied, and at a better price than anyone else i could find.
I haven't tried the site you mentioned yet, Opneo, they'll need to be good mind, as i personally have had no worrysome problems (save the above silly no stock issues) with either Camskills, MyTyres or Tyremen.
How did the whole buying experience go with Oponeo, is the website easy to navigate, do they have stock or offer you second choices....maybe a full report of your buying experience would give those of us who think beyond the car manufacturers best deal recommendation the confidence to give them a go....the name they use isn't memorable enough for a tyre site IMO but i have it on my tyre favourites.
EDIT, just checked my possible summer replacements for the MB and they're £40odd the wrong way at Oponeo...gulp.
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Thanks, gb. They're not on the car yet (the car's not here to put them on) so will expand in the fullness of time [ Not that I have room for any expansion :-( ]
I'm just passing on what they said on the phone, recently.
The Oponeo winters and all seasons looked competitive (and were so in my instance, otherwise I'd not have used them....I'm as tight as the next bloke) but if the summers are dear then that just reinforces the need to look around before buying....it was more their choice of W's & A/S's that impressed me, along with the prompt service.
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"How did the whole buying experience go with Oponeo, is the website easy to navigate, do they have stock or offer you second choices....maybe a full report of your buying experience would give those of us who think beyond the car manufacturers best deal recommendation the confidence to give them a go....the name they use isn't memorable enough for a tyre site IMO but i have it on my tyre favourites."
In reply to above, gb. It seems tyres get posted in 2's rather than all 4.... Too bulky/Health /Safety?? I don't know - but they despatched them from their Holland warehouse (they have lots of warehouses all over the place) and DPD delivered them with a tracking number to check online. The first two were here in a couple of days - the next two took another couple of days due to a temporary address label hiccup. But I received updates throughout and good communications. The choice of winters and all seasons was excellent and, in my size, cheapest I could find (and I did have a good look).
But if they were dearer for summers then definitely no point as there are far more suppliers of summers than winters.....but the choice they had for winters / all seasons did seem impressive - and the customer service has been fine. End of story :-)
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It seems tyres get posted in 2's rather than all
>> 4.... ...but the choice they had for winters / all seasons
>> did seem impressive - and the customer service has been fine. End of story :-)
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Thanks for updating after delivery KB, that's another site that can do worth checking for us all then.
I don't think Oponeo cocked up i bet the label got ripped off one of the pairs in transit.
No doubt during the winter we'll have a Winter type tyre reaport thread where we'll report the good bad and ugly performances of our tyre choices...as a bonus it'll upset those who don't subscribe to our rubber fetish..:-)
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>> No doubt during the winter we'll have a Winter type tyre reaport thread where we'll
>> report the good bad and ugly performances of our tyre choices...as a bonus it'll upset
>> those who don't subscribe to our rubber fetish..:-)
I'm waiting in this morning for a delivery of all-season tyres on steel wheels for the Outlander. The cost from mytyres of 4x 215/70R16 Pirelli Scorpion ST M+S marked tyres on wheels is about the same as a set of the Continental 225/55R18 'summer tyres' that it came fitted with.
I don't like the standard Carlos Fandango 18" wheels on the GX4 anyway - they are far too poncy and easily marked, being turned and laquered on the face, and the tyre profile is too low for sunken drain covers and potholes. The comfort might improve as well.
Man maths says it won't cost me any more in the long run, but I suspect I'll never put the original wheels back until I sell it.
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"don't think Oponeo cocked up i bet the label got ripped off one of the pairs in transit."............
.......Yes that's very much the impression I got when speaking to DPD local depot in Exeter. They were helpful though.....I rang the number, a fella in the depot actually answered straight away (and that, in itself, is a bonus, no buttons/phone menus/leave a message etc).....and he identified the issue straight away and got them on the next delivery.
And, as I say, the girl who answers the phone at Oponeo was a real delight to deal with (if a young lady speaking perfect English with a rather delectably demure Polish accent does it for you). Smiley included here for good measure.... :-)
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>>but no-one has acknowledged or commented on it, despite my saying how good their
>>service was or how well stocked they seem to be. (I'm not part of the C4P set, I guess).
No need to be paranoid like that around here. I mentioned Oponeo on the previous thread, and was rubbished and otherwise ignored. ;)
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I'm sorry, MM, didn't see your mention of the aforesaid...where was it again?
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>> I mentioned the place I got mine from earlier, but no-one has acknowledged or commented
>> on it, despite my saying how good their service was or how well stocked they
>> seem to be. (I'm not part of the C4P set, I guess). I also mentioned
>> Camskill's availability at the end of the month in my post.
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Standard response - though GB referred indirectly to your post IIRC.
There's the odd compulsive poster who racks up a lot of posts, but most people post when they've got something to say, want to get up somebody's nose or it's late and they've had too many beers (we know who we are!).
Sometimes you wonder if anybody's listening when you've gone to the trouble of posting what you think is useful information, but it's better than the forums where any vaguely humorous post is followed by seven variants of 'LOL', 'ROTFLMAO' and so on, and on...
I checked out Oponeo; some of the prices are very good. In fact the tyres I've just bought from mytyres were quite a bit cheaper from Oponeo, but they don't do wheels so I'm not too upset with you.
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Received, understood and gratefully noted all of your thoughts there, Manatee. I thought it was just soppy old me that saw things that way.
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Update - the Vredestein Quadrac 3's I put on have been great. I was very impressed this morning at how quiet they are on wet roads. Usually I find that road noise increases, but these seemed to be quieter than on dry roads. Really turned the car into a limo, and bodes well for the coming winter. They are solid, and well planted on the road after about 250 miles running in - in short they feel like a well made, quality tyre. They look good as well. Thanks GB for the recommendation.
Getting some for mums Yaris as well.
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They are solid, and well planted on the road after about 250 miles running in - in short
>> they feel like a well made, quality tyre.
>> Getting some for mums Yaris as well.
Glad they're up to expectations C, were they a tad skittish before bedding in or not too bad?, i'll let the daughter know what to look out for when hers go on.
You can tell without meeting people face to face that they're the sort of proper stick who looks after their Mum, top man.
Should be a good few varied reports for our winter tyre appraisals in due course, we'll show them poncy professional testers and writers how to do it..:-)
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>> Glad they're up to expectations C, were they a tad skittish before bedding in or
>> not too bad?, i'll let the daughter know what to look out for when hers
>> go on.
Not skittish at all from the start, but the steering lost a bit of directness. After doing a few miles, they've worn themselves in nicely to the suspension settings on the car, and feel good now. OK they don't have that directness of a full summer, but for a tyre that will hopefully give good grip in winter, they are fine for me, and they suit the Avensis.
Decided to replace the tyres on the Yaris because although they still have some tread, they are starting to crack beneath the tread blocks. This is the problem with small cars - they are easy enough on their tyres to last years (if driven normally), but the rubber starts to perish.
No doubt your daughter will have them run in pronto the way she (allegedly) drives :)
I wonder if Dogs' got his Nokians yet?
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>>I wonder if Dogs' got his Nokians yet?<<
Having them fitted tomorrow corax, got them from mytyres, bit of faffing about compared to blackcircles,
Best to have them delivered to your home (I know, you do!) and get them fitted locally,
Orf to Bude tomorrow AND it's gonna be sunny - yippie!
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>> No doubt your daughter will have them run in pronto the way she (allegedly) drives
>> :)
Thanks for the info, and the above is so true.
In a few weeks i'll expain to her and she'll put that 'i'm not 5 any more' look on her face, then as soon as she's out of sight and earshot she'll carry on in her own sweet way, whoosh, and they'll probably be scrubbed off by the time she gets home from the fitter's, why do we bother?
Gald you chaps are getting the all season/winter rubber on nice and early, should guarantee a proper Indian summer now, heatwave till December..:-)
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Had my Nokian WR G2's fitted this morning - fitter/garage was + + + + +
I noticed straight away the improvement over the previous Bridgestone Turanza's
The Lancer feels 'planted' on the road anyway, but more-so now, as if it's on rails!
They are not marked as Snow tyres, but M & S which suits be better really as I'm keeping them on 365.
Well pleased :-)
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Don't forget your vests and mittens you lot. You never know...After all, it's September already.
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>>You never know...After all, it's September already<<
S'all right for you, up in the balmy (is that spelling correct?) climes of Cheshire, this ere be Pasty country me ole mate!
Brrrrrrrrrr.
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>> They are not marked as Snow tyres, but M & S which suits be better
>> really as I'm keeping them on 365.
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>> Well pleased :-)
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Pleased to hear it, sure there's no snowflake and mountain symbol on the sidewall?
That's two of you that have used the word 'planted', very apt description to that feeling of sure footedeness.
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>>That's two of you that have used the word 'planted', very apt description to that feeling of sure footedeness<<
That's how it feels gb - glued to the road! you're right about the snowfake symbol as well m8,
Useful things, specs ;)
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So ... I've had a good look at these ere tyres now, and they are stamped M+S and a Snowflake symbol in what looks like an Iceberg (or is it a Mountain) :)
There is also a leaf pattern on them, and the words All Weather.
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>> There is also a leaf pattern on them, and the words All Weather.
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A decorative addition to the rare beauty of the Mitsi then D..:-)
Mine are still stacked in the garage, but if they don't have a pretty leaf on them when i get them out i'll be very upset.
First time i fitted the Nokians to the old MB i thought i'd dropped a clanger, couple of times got a bit of wheelspin in the wet, once i'd done about 500 miles that vanished completely, was cold mind.
On the subject of wheelspin i had an opportunity to drive one of the companies previous model Diesel Mondeos during the week in the wet, it wasn't exactly road burning power causing the wheelspin.
Hope i don't upset too many of the devotees here when i say i was completely underwhelmed.
Meant to have a look at what tyres are on the front of it with a view to avoiding, and i shall do that when i go back to work next, not of much use anyway, and only served to confirm my utter dislike of FWD, well FWD on rubbish tyres anyway.
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>>First time i fitted the Nokians to the old MB i thought i'd dropped a clanger, couple of times got a bit of wheelspin in the wet, once i'd done about 500 miles that vanished completely<<
Aye, mine should be run in nicely for when the ice age returns, in October :)
Do you follow the tyre makers recommendation for the pressures gb, or the car makers?
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When are y'all taking them off again? End of May?
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ice age returns, in October
>> Do you follow the tyre makers recommendation for the pressures
Ice age?, now you lot have bought the nations stock of winter tyres up we'll be basking in a heatwave for the rest of the year...i've been out putting teak oil on me garden benches this afternoon, ging gang gooly shorts on shirt off scaring the horses.
I use the standard car makers pressures D, didn't know the tyre maker offered their own.
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>>now you lot have bought the nations stock of winter tyres up we'll be basking in a heatwave for the rest of the year<<
My thoughts exactly!
There are tyre pressure recommendations on the Nokians, but I'll stick to Mitsubishi's rec, for now.
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Anyone know where I can get hold of Good Year GPS2 155 70 x 12? Without having to import them from Malaysia?
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There would seem to be more chance of getting struck by debris from a NASA satellite than getting them, I'd have said - by looking on the net - which is what you've just done I'm sure.
No tyres AT ALL on MyTyres and on the site I used myself and mentioned recently, which I won't keep repeating, there were just two tyres....Falken SN828 £38 delivered. And Hancook RA08 £90 delivered. And not much mention of G/Y GPS2's generally. But at £38 delivered I'd have thought the Falkens might be worth considering? Camskill show the Falkens as a special offer at £31.15 plus delivery.
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Thanks kb, I was considering Falkens. They're for the wife's little car, wanted to go the OEM route hence the Good Years. I'm a bit sad that way... :-)
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Ere ... ya know that women (as a rule( don't know anyfink about cars, like, well ...
I said to the missus "did you notice any difference with the new tyres, dear",
Yes! she said - as you (I) stated = it feels planted (there is hope for her yet)
Not a lot mind.
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>> Not a lot mind.
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I should think that good woman's halfway to Sainthood putting up with you all these years D.
SWM is a bit of a hooligan behind the wheel, Greek, enuff said.;), anyway She knows straight away when somethings not right, conversley She knows when somethings better, so makes the right noises..or is that habit, making the right noises that is...steady BBD.
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>>SWM is a bit of a hooligan behind the wheel, Greek, enuff said.;)<<
Does she look anything like Cleopatra? my friend in Plymouth is married to Maureen who is half Greek and half Egyptian (very nice) he is half Polish - as in Poland, not what you put on the car :)
>>should think that good woman's halfway to Sainthood putting up with you all these years D<<
You're not the first one to say that gord!
:-D
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>> Does she look anything like Cleopatra?
Blowed if i know, i'd have to dig Cleopatra up to check..;0
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Well as predicted, the all seasons are on and the temperature in Glasgow is to hit 23 degrees today. Allegedly. And I have checked, thats definitely Celsius as well!
Thank God I never got round to putting the winter tyres on my bike ...... :)
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I am also (partly) responsible for the nice weather, having put a set of Bridgestone A001's on SWMBO's Fabia a couple of weeks ago.
The Turanza ER 300's, which were the original fitting, were absolutely useless and dangerous last winter, despite having in excess of 4mm on the front after 30k when they were changed.
First impressions of the A001's were terrible, but that changed as expected after the first few miles: the car would squirm about on a dry flat road when accelerating in 4th gear, which is a good trick with 70 bhp.
Now they seem little different to the Turanza's, except the road noise has reduced.
How they wear, and what they are like in the winter (if we get one before they wear out) remains to be seen - will report back either way.
Oh, nearly forgot - they were supplied and fitted at home by "event tyres", probably not the cheapest, but convenient.
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>> I am also (partly) responsible for the nice weather, having put a set of Bridgestone
>> A001's on SWMBO's Fabia a couple of weeks ago.
Ah good, hopefully you'll be able to add to our very own winter/all season tyre good, bad, ugly thread when we get one going...when this lovely heatwave you lot are responsible for is but a memory..;)
The Mondeo i drove last week in the wet that would wheelspin at the slightest chance was fitted with Turanza's, subesquently added to my not a hope in hell list.
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gb. I can now report having had the four Vector 4Season's fitted locally today. I swear they're softer going over the local raised speed tables...maybe because they're slightly taller at 165/65/14 rather than the 175/60/14 Hankook Optimo K415 summer's fitted from new.
What to do with 4 Hankooks that have done 125 miles?.....Ebay?...How does £120 for four sound?...Delivery at £15.60 for the 4 by Parcel2go didn't sound too bad.
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>> gb. I can now report having had the four Vector 4Season's fitted locally today.
Ah good, that's the first set of Vectors i think we've gained, you're not short of a bob or two are you KB?..:-)
I've sold excess tyres via eBay and gained satisfactory prices, most people collected them, or got a passing mate to call in...being close to A14 helps.
A relative uses Gumtree quite a lot with no problems, and it's free.
I've made a note of the parcel company you have a quote from for the future, sounds very reasonable.
Did your insurance company make any fuss about the size change, or are the two sizes listed for your car?
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Ta for reply, gb and for reminding me about Gumtree - wouldn't have remembered that...did use them when selling a car earlier this year and did get a response, although ultimately it was AutoTrader that found a buyer (and a genuine one at that).
"you're not short of a bob or two are you KB?..:-)"......enough to put scraps on the table, but Hyundai i10's are rarely bought by those wishing to demonstrate their elevated position in society :-) I won't mention what tyres I fit on the Maybach.
When using Parcel2go, use the 'Quick Quote' button initially to get an idea without registering etc.
When getting insurance for the Skoda I rang round and chose only from those who didn't make a fuss about Winter Tyres and I now have Skoda steelies with Dunlop W/T's albeit in a different, more popular, size, but which keep virtually the same rolling circumference and that's OK with Saga. The All Seasons were mentioned to Adrian Flux Brokers but they seemed to dismiss them as not being an issue so that was also OK. Hyundai, when asked, couldn't provide any recommended sizes - or any sensible advice - and seemed to have no knowledge or interest in the subject so that was a waste of a phone call and 15 minutes. Skoda are a bit more clued up and do have recommended sizes. The crucial thing seems to be to retain a very similar rolling circumference in order to avoid obvious differences in the speedo/ odometer/ gearing. And not to fit tyres wider than standard....which you woudn't anyway with Winter Tyres.
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>> I am also (partly) responsible for the nice weather, ....
Having responded to Mrs H's nagging and ordered two winter tyres for her.
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>> Having responded to Mrs H's nagging and ordered two winter tyres for her.
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Two?....Lady H's motorbike?....i'm not getting drawn into this..:-)
Await appraisals in due course.
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My winter tyres have been exemplary since they were fitted - I'm hoping for the same in winter :)
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GB,
Despite HJ's dire warnings of catastrophe and cars flying off the road unless they had 4 winter tyres fitted, I fitted Mrs H's C3 with 2 Nankang SV-1s on the front last winter and she was full of praise for them. Since then her transport has become a 2nd generation C3 with a different tyres size, the old C3 and (separately) the winter tyres have gone on Ebay. Now 2 new Nankang SV-2s are waiting in the garage for fitting next month.
Mrs H is quite capable of handling a car with a wayward rear in the snow since she learnt to drive in a Triumph Toledo and had a Volvo 760 auto forced on her. She has no desire to have a motorbike, claiming she has yet to have a mid-life crisis.
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>> Despite HJ's dire warnings of catastrophe and cars flying off the road, I fitted Mrs
>> H's C3 with 2 Nankang SV-1s on the front last winter and she was full
>> of praise for them.
We'll definately want full reports of those on the winter tyre test thread please H, there's only a few gone down the Chinese route as it were for these, so it will be especially interesting to see how they have performed, not just in snow/ice but in the cold wet weather generally.
A lot more affordable than the premium makes, of which....
....the Dog's Nokians are excellent in a heat wave..:-)
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>>....the Dog's Nokians are excellent in a heat wave..:-)<<
Ah, but they've got a leaf symbol gb, and there are a lorra leafs about down ere in Cornwall.
(Especially tea leafs!)
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Whatcar? did a test this month between summer and winter tyres, Nankang I think were amongst those tested.
They seemed reasonably competetive compared with other tests I've seen with different Chinese brands (usuallly disatrous wet weather abilities).
The Nankang snow tyres were not the best snow tyres, but were much better than any of the summer ones (in the snow).
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>> Whatcar? did a test this month between summer and winter tyres, Nankang I think were
>> amongst those tested.
www.whatcar.com/car-news/winter-tyres-tested/259257
edit, found more results from their test, back soon..;)
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Thanks for that Lygonos, predictable results in the very cold ice and snow, but those tests conducted above freezing point didn't show the winter tyres in great light except in wet braking at 4'.
Couple of things surprised me, the Nankang winter tyres may not be quite as good as the premium products but they hardly showed themselves up either, well done them.
Really surprising was how well the Nankang summer tyres fared in the cold, outperforming almost every other summer tyre, i expected a much different set of figures.
The dry and warm braking figures make grim reading for winter tyres though.
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From Whatcar's findings, it seems outcome of using winter tyres in summer is better than using summer tyres in winter.
Like 7 meter more braking distance by winter tyres on dry roads compared to 11 m more by summer tyres on ice.
Why they didn't compare any all season tyres??
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>>Why they didn't compare any all season tyres??<<
Could it be because it was a winter tyre test??
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Auto Express just did a winter tyre test within their main tyre test and did include All Season tyres in that line up. Received details in their weekly online circulation email thingy a day or so ago.
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Tea leafs in Cornwell?I thought you where all posh down there.I'm keeping to the Michelin Tyres wouldn't mind all season depends on what Motabllity says.
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>>Tea leafs in Cornwell?<<
Yeah, but only the Cornwellian chimney sweeps ;o)
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Those thinking of buying don't leave it too much longer.
Mytyres is showing a good number of winter/all season available tyres, but Camskills in the very popular and reasonably priced 195/65 x 15 size as bought for my daughters car are showing many including the Vreds we purchased as ''no stock no delivery date''.
Luckily they never got as cheap again as the price i snapped them up at, but you sort of have to look just in case.
The winter's i bought 4 years ago for the pick up reduced in price by over a tenner apiece about 2 weeks after i bought them....got that one wrong, however they are now £70 each more expensive than when i bought so i might get a good price for the set on wheels in a month or so.
The summer set for the MB i pencilled in are dropping slowly in price, when to hit the buy button?
This is about as far as i'll ever go in share dealing...shark infested waters.:)
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I've done about 125 miles in my Nokian 'winter' tyres, and being we've got some of that wet stuff that falls out of the sky, I thought I'd test the breaking/stopping distance on the wet road service,
Almost stood the Lancer on it's nose!
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Winter tyre alternative...i like this fellow and his method.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJKU-zO4hk
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It's true what they say about the Irish then :-D
But to be fair, the rope did the trick and coped quite well up the hill, just a pain to fit & remove when need be,
Isn't there also an Indian rope trick available on YouTube?
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All season tyres [just some recommendations] - WillDeBeest
