I had a discussion with a customer today who revealed what I thought was an astonishing annual fuel bill, but I wonder if its within the norm.
Mine is around £1600-1800 p/a. Whats yours?
Last edited by: FoR on Wed 8 Jun 11 at 18:06
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About £2,000-2200, and that is just the car.
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Dread to think.
Although no doubt in 5 years time i'll see it as cheap, so may as well use it while it's cheap!
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About £1500, and 15k a year miles.
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Home, its £110 month for Gas electricity
Car is about £110 month for petrol about 12k miles a year
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Combined electricity and gas currently paying £96 per month or £1,152 per year (just increased from £83 per month) That's for a modern 4 bed house. On top of that I spend about £1,000 per year diesel for the car
Last edited by: CGNorwich on Wed 8 Jun 11 at 18:32
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My customer told me that she spends £1k per MONTH on diesel for her Range Rover.
Apparently the annual bill just for one car was nearly £13k, not to mention the other two they own.
I was dumbstruck by that.
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I'm sad enough to have the exact numbers in a spreadsheet but over 2001 - 2009 a fairly consistent 3K per year.
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No idea. Just buy it as work dictates. I have little choice. Starting to be a bit selective about just 'wandering' off willy nilly though.
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Rufferly £1200 on petrol
Ditto on gas/elec at previous place, but there isn't any gas in 'the cottage',
or mains water, or a mains sewer come to that, so,
I'm going to mainly use the multi-fuel stove come the ice age and maybe put the oil fired boiler on just for a few hours in the morning, dunno though, I'll have to see how it goes this year.
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...My customer told me that she spends £1k per MONTH on diesel for her Range Rover...
My first thought was there must be a hole in the tank.
But assuming about 25mpg, it's 'only' 4,000 miles a month.
Few people do that many miles month in, month out, and if she's driving other cars as well, she must be behind the wheel for longer than she's not.
Back in the real world, my annual bill for about 13,500 miles in the CC3 is a little under £2,000.
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>> About £1500, and 15k a year miles
Even at ~53mpg I can no longer get 100 miles out of ten quid. It's more like £11.50 these days.
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...Even at ~53mpg...
Your 2.0 TDCi does quite a few more mpg than mine.
I don't think I'm a duffer driver, perhaps my car is heavier.
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It is, it has reinforcement to stop it being a wobbly jelly
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>> Your 2.0 TDCi does quite a few more mpg than mine.
I don't use mine at all in town - I walk or cycle everywhere locally.
The car gets used only for work (14 miles each way), collecting son (27 miles), visiting daughter (80 miles) and dad (100 miles), so it's almost entirely driven in off-peak traffic on fast roads with a hot engine.
And I drive like a duffer (cruise set at 63ish mph on speedo). :)
Last edited by: Dave_TDCi on Wed 8 Jun 11 at 19:46
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...so it's almost entirely driven in off-peak traffic on fast roads with a hot engine...
That will explain a lot of it.
Extra weight the rest, although I've not double-checked that mine is heavier.
Last edited by: Iffy on Wed 8 Jun 11 at 19:49
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>> Extra weight the rest
Auto trader has these figures:
2005 Mondeo 2.0TDCi LX man 5door 1,495kg
2010 Focus CC3 2.0TDCi DPF man 1,630kg
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...Auto trader has these figures:...
Thanks for looking that up.
Enough to make a difference I would think.
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Definitely.
I also keep the car free of clutter, and I take the little fella's car seat out when he's not here. It's surprisingly heavy, and would account for a measurable amount of extra fuel consumed on a 200-mile round trip I'm sure.
I kept the Escort's (solid, heavy) parcel shelf in my shed for the same reason :)
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...I also keep the car free of clutter...
The cabin of mine's like that, but I could easily lose a few kilos from the boot.
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Your car has a DPF, not sure the 2005 Mondeo does.
That will account for some of the increased consumption too.
Not sure what my annual spend is, I think I fill up every 6 to 8 weeks (only do 20 miles/day work). Three or four good runs a year account for another few tanks.
House is 150€/month gas and 110€/month water and electric.
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>> our car has a DPF, not sure the 2005 Mondeo does
The Mondeo doesn't - one reason why it was chosen.
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Home fuel-wise, I top the gas meter up with £30 a week in the depths of winter, £20 a week in spring and autumn and £10 a week in the summer. Also I put £10 a week in the electric meter all year round, rising to £15 a week during GMT school holidays.
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>>Few people do that many miles month in, month out, and if she's driving other cars as well, she must be behind the wheel for longer than she's not.<<
Well I thought that but judging by where she had been by 10am already ( kids school isnt that local, posh place ) it seemed entirely plausible that she could do 130 odd miles in a day, its out in middle of nowhere so even a quick pop to the shop would be 15 miles a go.
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... it seemed entirely plausible that she could do 130 odd miles in a day...
A check of the odo would be interesting - see how many miles it's done in however many months.
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>>A check of the odo would be interesting - see how many miles it's done in however many months<<
Yes indeed. I didnt check today but next time ill make a note and see by how much it rises.
I know the car was set for a 600 mile run over the next two days on a business trip.
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Jan to Dec 2010 I spent £5538.29 doing 29284 miles in the Focus ST.
18.9 pence per mile.
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you did 30k miles in a focus ST? in a year?
good lord, how much was your chiropractors bill?
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Home £70 a month Gas & Electric
Car £1900 a year
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Oh well, if we're doing home fuel as well, about £40 a month on electricity, nothing on gas but an eye watering £180 or so a month on oil.
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I think my evened-out dual fuel direct debit with nPower is about £80 a month.
Although I also buy gas bottles and electricity for the caravan, which probably comes to another £300 or so a year.
Could be worse, when I'm here, I'm not using anything there, and vice-versa.
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Fixed price for dual fuel with StayWarm of £87 a month - didn't go up in April either despite price rises in the months previously and a second winter of several weeks of virtually continuous freezing conditions.
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OK home stuff, leccy 600 pa gas 1300 pa
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>> leccy 600 pa gas 1300 pa
A quote from one of the papers:
"Scottish Power’s move will ... raise the average dual fuel bill by £187 to £1,398 a year"
Yours is quite a lot higher than that already spamcan61, and mine is too (over £1500) but mine's on expensive prepayment card meters. Whose dual fuel bills are coming in at £700pa to keep the average low?
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...Whose dual fuel bills are coming in at £700pa to keep the average low?...
There must be a load of tight Scottish gits who never turn the heating on and read by candlelight.
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>>There must be a load of tight Scottish gits who never turn the heating on and read by candlelight<<
And where is Humph these days :}
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>>And where is Humph these days :}
True, where is he - hasn't been about for a while
[sits back now and awaits the C4P secretary advising that he had submitted his holiday request form in advance]
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>> Yours is quite a lot higher than that already spamcan61, and mine is too (over
>> £1500) but mine's on expensive prepayment card meters.
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Mine's due to 3 females in the house who insist on greenhouse temperatures all year round and endless hot baths. :-/
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Panda Cross, £1175 p.a. for diesel.
Dual fuel, £52 p.m.
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Gas & Elect: £2.2k
Diesel.. £600.. 61 mpg now..
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>> you did 30k miles in a focus ST? in a year?
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>> good lord, how much was your chiropractors bill?
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It actually had a very compliant ride, perhaps a better compromise than the current 123d M-Sport and that is fine.
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Shogun diseasel auto - last tank full was £114... lasts about 550miles mostly shortish drives with occasional 50+ mile jaunts. Reckon I'll do 8-9000miles this year so maybe 15 tanks of juice... £1700 or so.
FRV petrol auto, usually 5 or 6-up but typically longer runs every weekend 100+miles, Mrs does more local miles through the week - 33-34mpg on the (accurate) computer and done 12,000 miles since we got it 12mths ago... £2100 or so.
Gas/leccy for home is about £2400/yr.
Just doing my bit to keep global temperatures up.
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At todays fuel prices, petrol costs me £1050 pa. A bargain for the pleasure I get out of my car.
My annual domestic gas & electric cost, paid by monthly DD of £31 & £327 respectively, is £696, and I am always in credit. Logs & coal another £120 over the past 12 months.
My average sized detached house is never 'hot' except in summer, but neither is it ever 'really cold'.
Press ups cost nowt!
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I only spend about £60 a month on motor fuel.
Sometimes the Vitara only does a couple of miles a week.
Gas and lekkie...about £120 a momth.
Dave, I've replied to your post in the other, other place.
Ted
Ted
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Currently spending between £12 and £25 a week on petrol, it depends how busy I am, this week I have done over 100 miles just locally and I have another 30 to do by the weekend.
No idea what my parents pay for gas and electric but its in the £1000's. About 80% of the heat generated in the house just escapes.
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>> About 80% of the heat generated in the house just escapes.
You have the maximum level roof and wall insulation though? Probably single glazed original windows (leaded?) though.
I bet my personal fuel bill is currently around £1000 for diesel. I pay £80pm from salary for fuel and this is adjusted month-by-month for over/under spend based on last months mileage.
We used more gas this winter than we'd normally do - but first winter in the house too mind. So they've upped our payments over the summer. I think it will work out about £1000 for gas an electric for the year but that's a guess. We've only just passed the year mark of owning the house.
Last edited by: rtj70 on Wed 8 Jun 11 at 23:12
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1 June 2010 - 1 June 2011
Altea
13792 miles, £1919.16 = 13.9p per mile
Beetle
6311 miles £821.58 = 13p per mile
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There is some felt between the slates and the roof beams, most the windows are single glazed, but have two double glazed and a few laminate ones. Some windows have leaded bars in across the glass if that is what you mean.
The boiler is also an ancient type but its extremely reliable, a lot more so than these so called efficient combi boilers which break down at the first sign of cold weather.
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Loft insulation is between ceiling and roof space. I assume you have the recommended amount? Your mention of slate/felt is about the roof construction.
Sounds like you have mostly single glazed. Our old house was the same. And it had a lot of nice original leaded windows.
Combi boilers we are finding are really useful - always have hot water. If you make sure the condensate pipes won''t freeze there is no problem. We had no problem this previous winter. When we had the boiler serviced we were told the one we have is one of the reliable ones - thankfully.
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Zero, apart from the odd tankful for the 360.
Hee hee.
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Gas and elec here £125 per month, good sized 4 bed house and a family of five.
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2750 a year Sterling for the Honda and the Beast, but we do get around quite a bit.
I'd never bothered to work it out until now because I preferred not to put a figure on it. But if we can do it we'll do it.
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About 1440 sterling a year for diesel.
Elec./Gas about 840sterling a year.Three bedroom detached house.Double glazing.Walls insulated also extra loft insulation.We are using a combi boiler also shower in bath.
Gas central heating electric fire coal effect in living room.House is twenty seven years now also the radiators will have to keep a eye on them.Micro bore piping always used Fernox this is a hardwater area and flush the system every couple of years.Just my wife and I living in the house now retired from work.
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about 2000 for main car and the occasional tank of petrol for the weekend cars
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