| Motoring Discussion > vrs vs vrs | Miscellaneous |
| Thread Author: BobbyG | Replies: 16 |
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New Fri 27 May 11 22:21
vrs vs vrs - BobbyG
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So Skoda, hows the new vrs comparing to the last one? Managing to keep the white clean in this endless run of rain? Hows the gearbox? And its petrol vs diesel as well isn't it?? |
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New Fri 27 May 11 22:46
vrs vs vrs - rtj70
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| Man maths at play again Bobby? :-) |
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New Fri 27 May 11 22:57
vrs vs vrs - BobbyG
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nope - car going in for timing belt and MOT on Wed so definitely keeping. Saw a blue vrs estate today just like Skoda used to have and I remember him saying he was getting the new one but haven't heard much from him on it since. Maybe too busy being flagged down in the street all the time.... :) |
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New Fri 27 May 11 23:10
vrs vs vrs - rtj70
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Someone else I know wouldn't have a Skoda because people would think it a taxi. I'd have considered the Octavia before they face-lifted it but don't like it now. And the Superb estate is a bit big and due to emissions would cost as much as a Passat CC GT (in tax that is... it's a lot less per month for the car). I quite fancy a petrol car again providing it's got a turbo. But the emissions are still a bit too high to make it worthwhile as a company car. |
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New Fri 27 May 11 23:37
vrs vs vrs - Alastairw
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My kids call my Octy the taxi. It is in minicab silver too, to be fair. That said, cab drivers let me out at junctions, so it does have some perks. |
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New Sat 28 May 11 11:42
vrs vs vrs - Skoda
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Yeah it's excellent Bobby. That's me up to 4k miles in the 3 months so far now. White 2.0TSi petrol with DSG autobox. I put a stage 1 remap and a stiffer rear anti roll bar on this one. Performance wise, i'm out of talent or bravery before it's out of puff so i don't think i'll bother with Stage 2 performance mods, for now anyway. Been up to Knockhill twice with it so far. Keen to try it out on a different track now too. White's definitely been the right choice. I don't get annoyed that the colour doesn't zing all the time like i did with the last race blue one, this one just fades gracefully as it gets manky. Like Alastair, taxi's frequently flash me out which is super handy. Skoda owners are a friendly bunch too, sometimes folks come over for a chat in car parks or the number of times you come out of the supermarket at quiet times and find you've gained cars either side in an empty car park - both Skodas! Still waiting for a hot bikini clad babe to ask for a ride right enough but i've got my fingers crossed for when the sun arrives :-) There's also the Briskoda site - flashing and waving at each other all the time, that's a good laugh. Met some really good folks through that. It's not age constrained either, i came out from paying at the petrol station to an empty forecourt with a Skoda Yeti parked behind my pump and the old boy out for a blether about Skodas. I like that kind of thing. Must be the British favour for the underdog coming out. Did ~370 miles over the past 2 days and it's fine as a cruiser too - i've noticed the difference in interior noise, Skoda stepped up the sound proofing slightly but it's nowhere near as quiet as the BMW 7er. Conflicted on whether to fit a noise killer kit or not. Extra 20kg to cart about vs. quieter on long journeys. I love the fact that at 80mph it's still ultra eager to go with a stab of the throttle. 80-100 is rapid. Next mods: considering a brake upgrade. After 5 laps the brakes loose their initial feel and after 12 they loose performance. Only problem is the brakes i fancy (VW Racing team's "works" racer items) are unjustifiably expensive. |
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New Sat 28 May 11 15:05
vrs vs vrs - DP
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>> Did ~370 miles over the past 2 days and it's fine as a cruiser too >> - i've noticed the difference in interior noise, Skoda stepped up the sound proofing slightly >> but it's nowhere near as quiet as the BMW 7er. Nowhere near the price either though Skoda, in fairness to it. Also a heck of a lot more versatile and rounded in its abilities. Been reading your reports with interest. Sounds like this car is about as close to a perfect 'real world' all-rounder as reasonable money will buy. Practical, rapid, well kitted out, well made, reasonably economical, and good fun to drive. Cheers DP |
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New Sat 28 May 11 16:08
vrs vs vrs - Skoda
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Yeah, that sums it up nicely DP. It's the way I feel about it. Avant's got the exact same machine and I think he's suitably impressed with his too. We've both added our votes to the notion that It's common to have one then when the idea of renewal pops it's head up - buy another again. The real sub text here is to be the devil on Bobby's shoulder. I know he prefers higher seating positions but it's hard to go wrong with one of these :-) go on Bobby, there's a nice one, fully loaded, sitting over in Broxburn waiting for a test drive. |
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New Sat 28 May 11 18:57
vrs vs vrs - Avant
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Absolutely, Skoda: ours are both Octavias and I think Bobby G's erstwhile vRS was a Fabia (diesel only, now petrol DSG only). Nearly 3,000 miles now since mid-March and all going very well. There's a slight whine in 2nd gear (DSG) but I won't worry unless it gets any worse. I think the DSG has been improved over the years, and there's no excessive hesitation pulling away from rest nor any problem accelerating after slowing down (e.g. at roundabouts). I'd say the performance of the new one (petrol DSG) is about the same as the previous diesel manual. And 28-30 mpg in town, 35-38 on a long run isn't at all bad, and interestingly the same figures as Autocar have been getting with their long-term Yeti 1.2 TSI. I know which engine I'd rather have. I wanted a Golf GTI estate, and that's exactly what I've got. Interesting question - Skoda build quality is light-years away from when they were thought of as sheds, but do we think that in 10 years' time a Skoda will be as well-preserved as my old Y-registered BMW Z3, which has just passed its MOT without advisories for the third year running? |
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New Sat 28 May 11 19:20
vrs vs vrs - corax
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>> Interesting question - Skoda build quality is light-years away from when they were thought of >> as sheds, but do we think that in 10 years' time a Skoda will be >> as well-preserved as my old Y-registered BMW Z3, which has just passed its MOT without >> advisories for the third year running? I think the answer to that is no. VAG build quality is good, but BMW's is better, and you pay for that. How many MK1 Octavias do you see compared to the equivalent age BMW? This is assuming that the two makes are treated the same over 10 years. |
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New Sat 28 May 11 19:32
vrs vs vrs - Zero
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>> I think the answer to that is no. VAG build quality is good, but BMW's >> is better, and you pay for that. How many MK1 Octavias do you see compared >> to the equivalent age BMW? This is assuming that the two makes are treated the >> same over 10 years. mainly because most Mk1 Octies were used as taxi's, and I have no doubt they racked up many more miles than a BMW could. But generally speaking, is VAG quality as good as BMW? I would say they are on par. |
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New Sat 28 May 11 19:35
vrs vs vrs - Londoner
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>> VAG build quality is good, but BMW's is better, and you pay for that. How many MK1 Octavias do you see compared >> to the equivalent age BMW? This is assuming that the two makes are treated the >> same over 10 years. >> I think that historically what you say is correct, corax, but I have my doubts that this is still true. I'm not just saying this because of my own bad experience of BMW , but because of much other evidence that BMW's quality has slipped recently (penny pinching?) e.g. BBC Watchdog on the alloys scandal. large numbers of turbo failures, owners surveys, Which magazine reports, internet enthusiasts forums. I won't claim that VAG as a whole has caught up with BMW, but Skoda certainly can stake a claim to have done so. Don't forget that they get a punishing regime from taxi owners! |
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New Sat 28 May 11 20:24
vrs vs vrs - Skoda
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>> but do we think that in 10 years' time a Skoda will be >> as well-preserved as my old Y-registered BMW Z3 Probably not, even if the fit is as good as a BMW, the finish is not. Although i can't single out any trim that seems weak or needing special care to make it last, some parts aren't as good quality. The leather jumps out, it's ok but i prefer the upper spec BMW items by a mile. Lower spec BMW leather as in the 3 series is still better than this. I'd say for Skoda leather, think big name discount sofa warehouse leather sofa. The aircon controls, look great, same part # as used on all sorts of VWs, but the dials don't feel solid like the BMW equiv. Adequate rather than top quality. Mechanical parts, i don't know, but i assume it's a continuation of the interior theme. Nothing seems flimsy but where there would be a good solid big subframe on a BMW that everything bolts onto, they somehow manage without on the Skoda. |
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New Thu 2 Jun 11 09:32
vrs vs vrs - Hard Cheese
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I did a couple of hundred miles in an Octavia VRS CR170 manual estate last year, the engine was quite refined and light years on from the PD units. I also drove a Golf CR 140 earlier this year and it felt no less punchy, perhaps because it is lighter that the Octavia. The VRS suffered from a lot of road noise from the rear, worse than the Focus ST I had at the time and worse than my new 123d M-Sport that has 245/35 rears. The BMW interior feels a little more special as well I think, the MKVI Golf being a little antiseptic, if you got in without seeing a badge you might guess that it were Japanese. |
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New Thu 2 Jun 11 11:17
vrs vs vrs - Londoner
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>> The BMW interior feels a little more special as well I think, the MKVI Golf >> being a little antiseptic, if you got in without seeing a badge you might guess >> that it were Japanese. >> A shrewd observation! Whilst respecting the Golf's many abilities, I have always been "uncomfortable" (for want of a better word) by its interior. I think that you've just provided a possible explanation. |
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New Thu 2 Jun 11 12:25
vrs vs vrs - Mapmaker
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| Skoda, how much extra does your insurance co charge you for the mods? |
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New Thu 2 Jun 11 12:45
vrs vs vrs - Skoda
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£86 for the remap, £35 for the suspension changes. There's other minor mods as well (painted wheels, tinted windows etc) but they were included in the original quote so don't know how much they altered the costs. All in, I'm just over £520 for the year with a mainstream insurer, 26 years old, 5 years no claims. Hopefully seen as a good postcode. Will probably go with a specialist broker at renewal time next year though - they're able to offer cover of replacement costs of any upgraded parts. |
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