I know there are a few truckers on here, that I thought might be interested.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-12923203
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56 - good grief! what an absolute shame :(
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Perhaps has had ongoing health problems? He handed over the business to his brother and a business partner 7 years ago. Whatever lies behind it ,56 is no age to die in the 21st Century.
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Probably all the stress caused by running such a business. It very young though, he was only a year older than my mother.
Last edited by: RattleandSmoke on Thu 31 Mar 11 at 14:28
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...Probably all the stress caused by running such a business...
He's not run the business for eight years:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/3195382.stm
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Love him or hate him the name will always live on.
Pat
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The business was started and developed by ED Stobart who called it after his father-EDDIE Stobart.
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Did anyone hate him Pat? I can see that you yourself might have objected to being made to wear a collar and tie of course, had you sought employment with him. I would too.
This thread has got me worrying about the health of Norbert Dantressangle.
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the title seems a bit heartless
maybe the mods could amend?
my condolences to his family
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I certainly don't AC, I respected him as a very very good business man, others wouldn't agree who have lost contracts to him.
He revolutionised the haulage world and is the reason we all wear uniforms now instead of buying our own work clothes.
He had high standards and expected his staff and drivers to live up to them...nothing at all wrong with that IMHO.
If you don't want to conform you work somewhere else.
It's a very emotive name in our world and will bring out some very strong views from the ones who have lost, I'm afraid, and I have no wish to encourage those at this time.
Pat
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Had a lot of trucks, clean, well-maintained looking and with something traditional about their decor.
They were a reassuring presence. No doubt they will continue to be one.
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>> the title seems a bit heartless
Is he not dead then?
>> maybe the mods could amend?
It wont bring him back.
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"56 is no age to die"
Perhaps he was limited to 56, like his lorries.
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BBD you're a bit late with that, it's been doing the rounds among lorry drivers since the announcement.
Pat
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...Damn...
It was new to me, BBD, and I found it suitably amusing.
As regards the thread title, when passing on news of this sort, it is best to be simple and direct.
Otherwise misunderstandings can occur.
I've heard radio announcers say 'passed on' or somesuch out of misguided respect for the deceased family.
Ask any copper, if you have to tell someone a loved one has died, there is only one way to do it.
Look 'em straight in the eye and tell 'em straight as well.
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I read a book abouthim and also some documentaries. He worked non stop to build the group up and then sold it on to his brother.
It makes you wonder whether it was all worth it. Work your socks off, make lots of money but don't get much time to enjoy it.
Or work reasonably hard, earn a wage to keep you going but nothing that would buy you lots of luxuries, but live to an age to enjoy it.
Maybe his early death was totally unconnected to all the stress etc , who knows?
There is one sure thing in life...
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>>It makes you wonder whether it was all worth it. Work your socks off, make lots of money but don't get much time to enjoy it.<<
Is the jingle in your pocket, worth the jangle in your head.
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>> I read a book abouthim and also some documentaries. He worked non stop to build
>> the group up and then sold it on to his brother.
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>> It makes you wonder whether it was all worth it. Work your socks off, make
>> lots of money but don't get much time to enjoy it.
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>> Or work reasonably hard, earn a wage to keep you going but nothing that would
>> buy you lots of luxuries, but live to an age to enjoy it.
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>> Maybe his early death was totally unconnected to all the stress etc , who knows?
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>> There is one sure thing in life...
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Earn a wage!!!!! You either have it or you don't!! One cannot change the way they are made and if it suits one to graft then it does and if it suits you to be a wage slave then so be it too. I am sure he enjoyed what he had and if he didn't then no amount of restructuring of his life would make any difference. Ya is what ya is.
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"I makes you wonder whether it was all worth it. Work your socks off, make lots of money but don't get much time to enjoy it."
Well he seems to have done his best - he died bankrupt
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-13560566
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Think he did a good job, no point going to your maker with millions unspent in the bank vaults.
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I think it's incredibly sad that his family didn't bail him out.
But for him, they wouldn't have a business now.
Pat
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>>..no point going to your maker with millions unspent in the bank vaults. >>
Those have always been my sentiments...:-) But the offspring will still get something...:-)
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"I've heard radio announcers say 'passed on' "
A pet hate of mine - passed on, slipped away, passed over, gone to the other side, sadly no longer with us - all make me cringe.
I find myself shouting at the telly when some wimpy presenter comes out with this rubbish.
Just say it! Dead!
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I'm with BBD against the euphemisms. In any case, remember where we are; do we really think the grieving Stobart family will have rushed to their computers to see what the C4P regulars have to say about the news?
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>> with BBD against the euphemisms
I am too. But it doesn't upset me that some people are too squeamish to call a spade a spade. I certainly wouldn't start snorting contemptuously when they had just suffered, er, a sad loss. That would be unkind and discourteous.
'In nothing too much'. Socrates was it? Anyway some Greek carphound whose advice I haven't always followed.
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An excellent example of saying it as it is was recalled after the recent death of Elizabeth Taylor. About a fortnight after the death of one of her earlier husbands, Mike Todd, Elizabeth was seen around Beverly Hills on the arm of a new beau. When the Hollywood gossip columnist, Hedda Hopper, found out about this she phoned Elizabeth and said that she (Hopper) considered it to be in bad taste for Taylor to be seen with a new man so soon 'after her husband had passed on'. Taylor's reply? “Mike's dead, I'm alive. Do you expect me to sleep on my own?”
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Eddie Stobart has died
would have appeared less harsh,maybe, same difference though, but perhaps softer and more rounded.
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>> An excellent example of saying it as it is was recalled after the recent death
>> of Elizabeth Taylor.
You have to admire that woman. The Funeral car sat outside for 15 minutes "because she wanted to be late for her own funeral"
class.
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Shell and BP (and probably other) tanker drivers wore collars and ties as long ago as the 1950s. They were regarded as the 'creme de la creme' of the transport trade.
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>> Damn
Witty of you and the truckers though BBD.
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the price of diesel must of finished him off
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According to Vanessa on R2 this morning, there is an obit on Stobart by Hunter Davies in today's Daily Mail.
Davies is one of the few hacks/authors whose stuff is of uniformly high quality, so this article is probably worth a read.
I don't think it's on the website, so Davies/Stobart fans will have to buy a hard copy of the paper.
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I have to agree with Pat that Eddie Stobart divided opinion in the road haulage industry. My own view is that his most important contribution was to put it firmly into the public eye, and make it respectable.
From his obituary in the Daily Telegraph;
"At a time when most lorries on Britain's roads were tatty and dirty and driven by men with sartorial standards to match, Stobart insisted that his lorries, with their outsize green, red and gold livery, should be kept in immaculate condition; that his drivers should wear a shirt and tie (later a smart uniform); and decreed that they should all wave back and sound their horns when a member of the public recognised the brand.
"I fought against the rough-looking driver," he recalled. "A lot of them looked no better than tramps. It took quite a few years before people saw where we were going and what we were trying to achieve."
His business philosophy remained a simple one: "We never turn any customer away and we always do it at the right price. We are always smart, tidy – the best at everything. We have the smartest drivers and the smartest trucks and we do our job well, which is why people notice us and why we are a success." "
When people knock British enterprise, they could do worse than look to Eddie Stobart for an example of what we CAN achieve.
RIP Eddie.
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Following the death of Eddie Stobart, a film is being made of his life.
It looks good, i've seen the trailer....
RIP ES
Last edited by: VxFan on Sat 2 Apr 11 at 20:36
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>> the price of diesel must of finished him off
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HAVE.
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Have what ? No need to shout...
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>> Work it out.
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>> the price of diesel must HAVE finished him off
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Thank the Lord for the Swiss.
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You must HAVE lower fuel costs?
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dont you just love the gramma police.....boring
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news just in ... autopsy report suggests eddy was HGV positive
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Do you think his coffin was painted green with his name down the side?
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yeah, he was called Charlotte.
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I wonder if the funeral director was forced to undercut all the others in the area?
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The undertaker signed up for a full logistics, warehousing & supply chain contract.
Last edited by: Zero on Mon 11 Apr 11 at 16:44
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According to today's Sunday Times he was bankrupt before his death. Riches to rags in a very short time.
Stobart Group sold many years previously to new owners grows to be worth some £500m
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Eddie Stobart dead - Dog
