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 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
Finally have my own car again, what a relief, its been nearly a month and I really was missing having something of my own.

Collected the car this morning and within an hour it was earning its keep - all my work stuff easily fits in the back, there is no wheelarch intrusion at all which means a flat, square loadbay with seats down - perfect for me, so I can tick the practicality box.

Drives aswell as I remember and now with more miles, Im exploring its limits, or atleast I would if I could find them.
I ran out of bravery before the front end even felt like it was going and what had impressed me is how controllable it is mid-bend.
Maybe its a legacy of its light weight and good tyres ( Pirelli P6000s all round, seem good - any opinions? ), but even when your really pushing it, you can make adjustments mid-corner without even a hint of resistance and it flatters clumsey steering inputs. The steering is pinsharp and well weighted, meaning it changes direction very quickly, making the cars ive driven recently feel very nose heavy.
I have a cross-country drive from Kettering to Stamford tomorrow on the B-roads an I really cant wait as the way it can carry speed through the bends makes it perfect for such roads.

Its not searingly fast although its fast enough that to stay legal, you need to keep yourself in check. The engine has a raw sort of engine note, a little uncouth maybe, but the way it revs with the VVT makes it a pleasure to redline it - it seems to really find alot of power up above 4000 rpm so overtaking is a breeze.
Pootling around town though, it feels totally comfortable doing that, with a light, slick gearchange ( nothing like other Suzukis ive driven ) and its great for darting through gaps.

The ride is definatly firm, but its firm in a controlled way and fits the character of the car. Its worth taking time over speed bumps as I only have one spine, but its actually softer feeling than the Wagon R.

The seats are fab, nice huggy Recaros which support the lower back nicely, important if you have trouble that way like me and means that you dont fall off your seat in a fast corner. The steering wheel and gearknob have leather finish which feels nice in use and seems to lift the interior above the standard Ignis, as do the blue backlighting ( on white ials ) for the dials and the carbon-look trim.
One thing which you forget at first is that this isnt your usual hatcback because like all Ignis, its a bit higher than normal, so you step out rather than climb out - useful for the old folk who suprisingly seem to like the Sport too - I saw a VERY elderly couple filling theirs up the other day ( red with white wheels ) - it was the most bizarre pairing really, but prob the coolest grandparents about.

The look of the car is growing on me - people certainly notice it on account of the wheels I expect. My customer today had a poke round and gave it his seal of approval and I also now have to contend with teenage boys wanting a look at it and asking the kind of inane questions only they can dream up - twice today ive seen lads look at it as I go past, then turn to have another look - I feel like ive stolen an ASBO, but ill get over it in the end.

This car has aircon which does work, I checked earlier and ive given it a run with it on - smelt abit at first but cleared after a few mintues.
It isnt over-endowed with kit, but it has elec windows, mirrors and aircon, plus a CD player - thats about all ive ever found a desire for on the toy count, so Im content - for safety fiends, it also has twin airbags.

I havent discovered if there are any special features yet, I expect there will be a japanese oddity in the design somewhere, there usually is ( it has the obligatory storage tray under the front seat apparently but thats nothing new ).

I await the results of economy returns, but for this first full tank, I making no special effort, just to get a baseline. Im expecting maybe 40 mpg which is just short of the combined of 41 mpg.
Road tax is £155 a year, insurance a tad over £300 and its chain-cam so its just fluids and filters each year, making it pretty cheap to service.
Performance is good, not so fast that its unusable, but fast enough that you can redline it in lower gears and not end up at some insane speed, so theres room for having a laugh. It is low-geared which makes for 3000 rpm at 60 mph although at 75, its actually quieter, but never quiet in any real sense. The tyre roar is actually more of an issue and if I get to change tyres on it, ill be investigating quieter boots.

As yet, I cant find a decent negative an my wife loves it, she said if it were auto, id never see it. Its funny because its not the car id seek out, ive never seen myself as a hothatch kinda person, but because it is rather more practical than most small hatches, it actually makes alotta sense and covers more bases than most.
I rather like it and I think the best way to think of it is as a Rover Mini Cooper estate ( not that one ver exisited ) because it has that feel of being alive and its full of guts and a fair bit of ability too. Its actually alot better than I ever imagined.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
I just found a couple of odd things. The clock also measures your average speed and the car has an alarm clock - thats a first for me.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
A dose of practicality, if only all cars were this easy.

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 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Skoda
That load space is impressive, i see what you mean about no intrusions. It'll be good fun when you take it to the twisties :-) short wheelbase = eager turn in.

Hope it serves you well Stu!

p.s. alarm clock in a car?!

EDIT: whoops, bit late hitting the post button!
Last edited by: Skoda on Sat 5 Mar 11 at 18:46
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
Its such a basic and sensible idea, it makes me wonder why it is that these newer small cars have such pokey loadspaces and terrible arrangements with the seats down because it doesnt need to be that way.

In terms of dimensions, the car is the same length as the old model Ka and 200mm narrower, so its far from a large motor.

Im gonna have to try the alarm clock, just once.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Lygonos
The Ignis doesn't have independent rear suspension = flat load bay.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - corax
>> I just found a couple of odd things. The clock also measures your average speed
>> and the car has an alarm clock - thats a first for me.

An alarm clock? To wake you up when you're veering across 3 lanes and into the hard shoulder?

:)
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - RattleandSmoke
It is because the traffic jams are so bad in Japan most drivers fall asleep.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Bellboy
dump the pureille ellies before they dump you stu
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Lygonos
A good number of these cars ended up going backwards through hedges as I remember from the old SISOC website (Suz Ignis Sport Owners Club).

Much like the old 205 GTi this was almost certainly because of over-eager drivers running out of skill mid-bend.

Stu doesn't come across as a fud on the road so he'll be ok with any tyres.. even the Pirellis ;-)
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - -
Nice report and i like odd stuff like your car too.

Did they fully service the car, or is that due at some point soon...will you entrust it to the dealer when it's due or go back to your indy?

Had Pirelli 6000's on the MB estate a few years ago, that car was seriously quick and the tyres never gave a moment's cause for concern, full power acceleration on turns in the wet from rest without triggering ASR, soft compound and gripped very well in the wet.
Heavier car might have suited them mind.

All you can do is test them thoroughly so you know the limitations where there's room to recover.

 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Skoda
I had the opposite, my 7er came with P6000s, I'm yet to try a worse tyre in the wet. Dry performance was ok, but Scottish weather is rarely that obliging :-)
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - ....
I found that too Skoda. I had P6000's on a Pug 206 and they were a fine tyre. Good grip, good life. My Volvo came with P6000's and they were poor.

Seem like a good tyre well suited to small hatches.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
>>Did they fully service the car, or is that due at some point soon...will you entrust it to the dealer when it's due or go back to your indy?<<

They did the 7th year service as part of pre-sales prep ( same as second year ). I will take it back to supplying dealer, even they can manage a fluids/filters change and if it takes less time than quoted, they charge less rather than stick to quoted price.

Im hoping mine isnt too hard on tyres - decent ones seem to be £80 plus a corner, gone are my £35 a corner days it seems!

No regrets though, todays 120 mile drive confirmed that I rather like it, although my license could be in trouble if Im not careful, it is sooo easy to just boot it.

 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
Well, my trip to Newark today did present several opportunities for the type of overtaking that was rarely possible in most of my previous cars, but even throwing it into bends in deepest Rutland didnt unstick it and Im gentle really.
I guess that ill have to take notice when I replace the tyres though as a bad choice could ruin the car.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
www.carenthusiast.com/reviews.html?mode=article&id=466

Seems to reinforce my impressions.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Bellboy
tyres go hard as the compound seems to cure stu thats why i advise tyre change
ive never driven on brand new p6000 so they might be excellent just like p6 was my tyre of choice 20 years ago
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - gramar
Welcome to the club Stu!
Now you know someone else who's got an Ignis Sport - me!

My wife started it by buying a 1.3 GL 5 door Ignis last March to replace our aging VW Polo diesel. I joined in and bought my Ignis Sport in the July. I'm in my mid fifties and this is the first 'sporty' car I've owned.

Mine is a 53 plate in silver 2 prev owners and a genuine 14,700 miles (now up to over 23,000). I do a regular commute to work (round trip of 82 miles) 3 to 4 times a week. Driven steadily (I've kept a log) I'm averaging just over 45.5 mpg which having come from diesels is pretty good considering how lively this car can be when driven enthusiastically.

In the 8 months of ownership I have no regerts. I always enjoy driving it and it has been a paragon of reliability unlike my previous Citroen Xsara HDI. I too find tyre noise excessive on poor surfaces. Mine is shod with Yokahamas all round which believe is the orginial fitment. They're very good and have not worn to any mesaurable degree in my hands.

Carry one and enjoy it. It's great to own such a rare car. Only about 1,950 were imported from Japan between 2003 -2005 a lot of those are/were driven by young bloods so give it few years and we might have the only two left in the UK!!
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Stuu
Just got my first mpg figures - 41.3 - not bad for normal driving with fair few full throttle moments. I suspect that with it being a low-miler, it will take a few more miles for the engine to loosen up and find its peak.

I wonder whether Super UL woul make any difference with a car like this - any opinions?

>>Now you know someone else who's got an Ignis Sport - me!<<

A man of class then ;-)



 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - Skip
It's always worth a try, i have had cars where super u/l has made no difference whatsoever, a couple where the mpg and performance have improved and others that have had a smoother tick over and better mid range pick up but no improvement in fuel economy.
i have only used Shell V Power and the BP ones though.
 Suzuki Ignis I - First Impressions - RattleandSmoke
Just don't use the breaks and if some stupid predistian presses the lights just wind down the window and start swearing at them because that action has just cost you an extra 20p in fuel:).

Better MPG than I am getting, still only on 40mpg but most of that is stuck at lights.
 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Stuu
Im without my car. Its gone to the doctors. I feel the loss!

Actually, it was scheduled to go in anyway to get a few bits done ( I couldnt wait to get the new car so postponed the work ).

It turns out the gearbox has been overfilled because some numnut who serviced it in the past ( it was never serviced at my dealer aside from the PDI when new but at another some distance away ) rounded off the drain plug and then topped up the box through the speedo - which then meant they didnt know when it was at the right level - since it had way too much in, a small amount of fluid has been occasionally leaking out a breather pipe on the top of the gearbox. It isnt doing any harm as such, but obviously needs sorting really and to get at it required a bit of work so they were due to have it yesterday and today.
Rather alot of hassle because some twit cant use a socket set.

Thats now all fixed, but big gob me also went in with a short list of niggles, namely a squealing from one of the pulleys on the aux belt ( theres atleast 5, maybe more ) and also a clonking from the NSF suspension. Neither especially big issues, more annoying than anything.
Well, the suspension is an easy one - the top mount is being replaced as its known that they can get clonky even with no free play.
The big gob bit comes from the pulley. Im glad I said something - the noise is something to do with the clutch that engages the A/C and a bearing related to it which they are replacing - not a common part by any stretch but I now have to wait till Tues to get Ivan back because the part is made in Germany and they dont stock them here given the rarity of need.

While its there they are also removing the front window tints for me aswell - in the half dark you sure notice them then.

Still, its all free.

Economy has settled now and on 3 fill ups its done 41.3, 41.5 and 41.6 mpg so it seems in normal driving, mixed speeds with some hooning, it will hit its combined figure - I find that rather impressive given how often you read of cars not getting their combined even with much effort.
The current tank ive been more careful on and I seem to be on target for around 47-48 ish judging by the extra miles Im getting, which would break even the extra urban figure.

Still a happy camper and gasping to get my car back as the loan car has no sparkle.
 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Londoner
>> Economy has settled now and on 3 fill ups its done 41.3, 41.5 and 41.6
>> mpg so it seems in normal driving, mixed speeds with some hooning, it will hit
>> its combined figure - I find that rather impressive given how often you read of
>> cars not getting their combined even with much effort.
That IS impressive. Most cars not only fail to achieve their quoted figures, but (on magazine road tests especially) miss them by a long way.

You have obviously bonded with your car quickly. :-)
 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Stuu
Economy is improving. I thought about doing an economy tank, but then the devil on my shoulder tends to ruin that :-)

Still, just filled up and I got 42.5 mpg brim to brim which is pretty good as again, I didnt compromise how I drove to get it.

Ive decided to try Super U/L this tank, see if it makes any difference. Sainsburys in Kettering are selling Super for just £1.29 p/l atm which is a bargin and cheaper than you generally find U/L elsewhere although Kettering does seem unusually cheap atm ( their U/L is £1.26 p/l ).

I read somewhere that high revving engines do better on Super - fact or fiction? I know someone told me once that the engines run better on higher octane essentially because the fuel burns more easily, no idea how true that is either!
 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Hard Cheese

If the engine has an electronically controlled anti-knock system then it may be able to run more advanced on higher octane fuel and thus produce more power/and or more economy.

Turbocharged engines usually stand to gain most, as HJ has said Ford quote that the Focus ST with gains up to 18 bhp with 98/99 octane fuel.

 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Stuu
Well I did think after a few miles the engine was sounding a little smoother, but maybe just mind playing tricks.

Ill see how I get on. I only run it to a half tank so in about 4 days time, ill know if it is any better for mpg.
 Suzuki Ignis I - 2 Wk update - Bellboy
If the engine has an electronically controlled anti-knock system
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this is basically a microphone glued to the engine block and tuned to pick up pre detonation,they are a bug bear on some makes of car because they throw up eronious codes and it usually turns out to be a wiring problem
best way to get more power is clean head, good quality fuel ,valve seats sitting comfortably,timing spot on for particular car
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Stuu
Well ive now given Super U/L a fair go and Im impressed enough that ive suppressed my inner miser and bought another tankful. Still just £1.29 a litre in Kettering which still sounds cheaper than standard stuff elsewhere in UK, so Im happy to upgrade.

In short, it does seem to work.

The car revs more smoothly, less hesitation and flat spotting plus it sounds a little quieter at idle too.

Best part is economy. I think it was 42.5 mpg on normal U/L last time - this time with still no special efforts I got 44.5 mpg - when I say no special efforts I mean atleast 20 miles of full bore giving it some ( I was very late ) out of 250 miles, maybe 50 miles driving miss daisy, the rest somewhere in between, almost no dual carriageway or constant speed driving either, mainly undulating A-roads and town use.

Im not sure how much the engine is loosening up - its now done 1000 ish miles since I got it but I do wonder if a low miles car, however old, runs sweeter when it gets used frequently again - any thoughts?

Either way, my car seems to like the pricey stuff.
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Lygonos
Probably not getting 'looser' physically, but you'll have much more confidence than when you were first driving it and being happier to push it a little more.

Does it still have the horrid yellow mesh in the headrests - an easy job with a good blade ;-)
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Zero
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>> Im not sure how much the engine is loosening up - its now done 1000
>> ish miles since I got it but I do wonder if a low miles car,
>> however old, runs sweeter when it gets used frequently again - any thoughts?

It may have been a bit gummed up if it wasnt been driven hard enough, you may be experiencing the benefits of an Italian tune up.
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Stuu
I have certainly found my inner Italian :-)

Mesh has stayed, its like all these things, you get used to it, I dont even notice anymore, even the white wheels have grown on me since I saw a Citroen DS with white wheels - that makes it somewhere near fashionable...ish!
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Zero
There are two ways to be fast, in your face and fast, and "wow I didnt know what that was" fast.

Either is ok but always avoid blinged up in your face SLOW.
 Suzuki Ignis I - fuel update - Stuu
Indeed. I blew a Fiesta Zetec S away today, despite it looking like an ST, it really isnt as fast by any margin and it sure didnt handle either in the hands of its baseball cap clad pilot.
Last edited by: KosaiIggypop on Sat 2 Apr 11 at 23:26
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