Sad news - Bristol cars are in administration
tinyurl.com/bristolcars
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Thank the lord. First LJK and at last Bristol Cars.
Lets have no more of this nonsense.
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i love bristols
i love the cars too
wheres AC? he loves them too
proper horseless gentleman's carriages
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... that belong in a museum.
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I love them too, shame really but they were from another era, so next it will be Morgan.
I wonder if someone new could make something of the brand.
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Some interesting reading about them here:
www.bristolcars.co.uk/
www.boc.net/
www.bristolcars.info/
I remember seeing them in my Observer's Book of Cars when i was about 10 and not being able to figure out who'd pay *that* much for something looking like *that*...
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>>and not being able to figure out who'd pay *that* much for something looking like *that*...<<
You say that, but people pay good money for a BMW 6-Series which looks like a bloated 911 that someones been at with a sledgehammer. Infact there hasnt been a pretty BMW for decades. People still buy them tho...
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whooooooooooo hooooooooooo
me and stu agree ;-)
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Yeha lets keep that quiet fella, we will get a reputation for being nice ;-)
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I'm amazed they have lasted this long. I drive past their Kensington showroom every day, and I do wonder what on earth they do in there all day long - I mean when was the last time they actually sold a car? This decade, or the one before, or the one before that?
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Never taken much notice before, but their site says the Fighter T with the optional Turbo "produces 1012 bhp". Um. Golly. Why hasn't Clarkson wibbled that up and down the track?
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Bristol would never let the media test their cars, looks like that policy has back fired.
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Last sales figure quoted was 104 in 1982. Owner Tony Silverton has mentioned about 150 units a year.
Cant really see them being bailed out - to small
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I don't know about "They should be in a museum" - they are built in one, probably
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we are talking british cars built by british people for british people that respect quality
if i could afford a bristol i would buy one
i saw one last autumn at the harrogate stray
i fell in love with the car even though i knew i loved them anyway
proper cars built with love
no wonder this country is down the drain
buy your computer built drivel you peasants and hope the bugs dont bite (they will amigos)
have a nice day....... :-)
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>Why hasn't Clarkson wibbled that up and down the track?
Why haven't they 'wibbled' this road legal, British designed car up and down the track despite numerous offers to the producers of Top Gear?
www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=records
Kevin...
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Evo tested the V10 Viper engined Fighter against a bunch of modern supercars fairly recently, and were quite complementary about it, although its quirkiness divided opinion quite neatly among the road testers. Those who "got it" reckoned it was a great car if you were prepared to accept that it wasn't anything like the other cars in the group test. Those who didn't dismissed it as a piece of English eccentricity.
As Crankcase says, Bristol also did a version of the car called the Fighter T with two turbos bolted to the V10 to give over 1000 bhp, a whisker over 1000 lb/ft of torque, and 0-60 in under 3.5 seconds.
If most manufactuers had launched something with figures like that, it would have been all over the press. Hardly anyone knew about anything this company was up to, and that I would imagine was its downfall. Even loyal customers eventually have to be replaced, and I suspect that few people under the age of 35 who aren't car geeks even had a clue the company existed in the first place.
Last edited by: DP on Thu 3 Mar 11 at 22:35
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>> . . . there hasnt been a pretty BMW for decades.
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Oi! I yield to no man in my abhorrence of the worst design excesses of the Chris Bangle era, but how can you say that the 3 series coupe isn't handsome, or the 3 series cabriolet with the roof down? :-)
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>but how can you say that the 3 series coupe isn't handsome, or the 3 series cabriolet with the roof down? :-)
It's still a Bracknell Cortina.
Kevin...
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Modern Bristols are capable luxurious high-performance two-door large four-seat coupes. They are narrow (so, viable in town and generally driveable), safe-handling, very hard-wearing and long-lasting, and generally simpler to repair and service than modern high-tech European cars. Of course they are a bit thirsty and the looks don't appeal to a lot of people.
I too often pass the Kensington showroom - I did today but on the other side of the road - and often wonder idly what the twin-turbo V10 gullwing-doored supercar is like. There's usually one in there. Have they sold any I wonder? I must say that it's a lot more discreet and invisible than most supercars. I don't think anything like 1,000 bhp is claimed but if it goes well it's a viable option I would say for a quite rich car freak.
Proper Bristols come from the forties and fifties and have a 2-litre six cribbed from BMW, similar to a 328 engine I think. Very thin inclined pushrods, a high revver despite its longish stroke. The 401 to 403 were fabulous lookers and damn good cars.
I'll never have a new Bristol now though unless something happens fast. It's not the end of the world of course but if Anthony Crook's decided to give it best, snooty though he is said to be, I am very sorry.
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>> Proper Bristols come from the forties and fifties and have a 2-litre six cribbed from BMW, similar to a 328 engine I think. Very thin inclined pushrods, a high revver despite its longish stroke. The 401 to 403 were fabulous lookers and damn good cars.
And of course that Bristol 2-litre, gutsy and more or less infinitely tweakable as it was, was a unit of choice for small-volume sports car manufacturers including Frazer-Nash and AC.
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>> I don't think
>> anything like 1,000 bhp is claimed
They claim 1,012 bhp and 1,036 lb/ft of torque for the Fighter T
www.bristolcars.com/fighter.html
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>> They claim 1,012 bhp and 1,036 lb/ft of torque for the Fighter T
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>> www.bristolcars.com/fighter.html
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Link didn't work for me DP, try...
www.bristolcars.co.uk/fighter.html
Seems we have neatly divided the Forum... I'm another that doesn't like them... Its not about "getting it" as said earlier, its just whether I like the look of the thing or not... I don't... Never have done, past or present versions...
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Sorry DP. Wow!
Perhaps the non-turbo one wd be good enough.
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>> Sorry DP. Wow!
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>> Perhaps the non-turbo one wd be good enough.
Sorry about the duff link.
It was the non-turbo that Evo tested. Still a mighty quick car with 525 bhp.
Can't find the group test I referred to, but a nice piece about the car here:
www.evo.co.uk/features/features/229293/bristol_fighter.html
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Just makes me like the company more. Totally bonkers and they made the world just that bit more interesting.
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That was a good read, DP, thank you. Although I think I might have altered the sentence that runs: "Now you understand why Bristol rebuild the whole thing, installing their own heads in the process. "
That's dedication.
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>> That was a good read, DP, thank you. Although I think I might have altered the sentence
The article was written by Richard Porter, who also does the sniffpetrol website, the Crap Cars books and a spot of writing for some telly programme :)
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>>but how can you say that the 3 series coupe isn't handsome, or the 3 series cabriolet with the roof down?<<
Because Ive seen a Peugeot RCZ in the flesh aswell as an Alfa Brera. They make the 3-series look like a dumpy germanic brick. Its bland and looks like a 2dr saloon, 'Coupe' is used to raise the price and attempt to blind people to its excess of visual dullness.
Last edited by: Ivanstu31 on Fri 4 Mar 11 at 00:14
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I would rather almost any fully restored classic than a Bristol from the past 50yrs... with the possible exception of a Fighter. If they were any other make people would admit they look like a dreadful home built effort of parts from several different makes. Appreciate the attributes AC mentions but they're not enough to carry them on as a credible vehicle.
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Sad news, but amazed they lasted this long. You can be exclusive but limiting the distribution to one showroom is going a bit far.
Remember an extended family member owning one (not sure which model) in the late 70's and it is the only car I have ever been in with a dashboard push button controlled auto gearbox. Lovely growly v8. Probably the most exclusive car I have ridden in as production was so low.
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I'd love to have a go in a couple to establish if I liked them or not.
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Never had one, never even seen one in the flesh but still a sad day to see something thats been around as long as this disappear.
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Theres a 401 around my area somewhere, driven by an old fella, in dark green. Of course, I knew what it was, but I expect I was one of a small number. Lovely rumble from the V8 even 20ft back.
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I tried to buy a 406 a couple of years ago but was beaten to it. A proper machine.
Since the end of Tony Crook's ownership the company seems to have departed further and further into fantasyland.
Or maybe all the dictators who might have bought one are sweating on their millions at the moment...
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Perhaps they were peed off with having to have the things rebuilt every year.
They stopped being offered for road tests because someone questioned why the panel gaps were so large and inconsistent, why the panels appeared to be wavy and why the paint felt like artex.
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>> peed off with having to have the things rebuilt every year.
That's about as ridiculously removed from the truth as it's possible to be Zeddo.
Never mind though. Everyone can be forgiven for being perverse and idiotic about one or two things, and it's Bristols that give you that foxed cross-eyed look. You got no class son, but why should you have?
Heh heh...
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>> That's about as ridiculously removed from the truth as it's possible to be Zeddo.
You think? reality hurts I know, and when one of your icons is seen to be sullied in truth, its a real shock. You'll get over it.
The only thing that was properly made was the large american engines they used from time to time.
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>> only thing that was properly made was the large american engines they used from time to time.
That isn't what the well-heeled, demanding and generally loyal-for-life Bristol customers think Zero.
Still, they've got to be thick haven't they, posh gits like that. You can tell they don't know what's what because there are so few of them as well. If they had any sense they would buy old Mitsubishis and be all over the home counties like a rash. Stands to reason, eh?
Tchah!
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>> That isn't what the well-heeled, demanding and generally loyal-for-life Bristol customers think Zero.
So loyal they stopped buying them. The only thing keeping the factory going was rebuilds.
>> Still, they've got to be thick haven't they, posh gits like that.
If that were the case Lud, they would still be turning them (slowly) out. Even those with a shed load of readies dont like be taken for fools.
They have gone bust fro a very good reason.
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>> They have gone bust fro a very good reason.
Yes. Hand-building is increasingly uneconomic, and the market for Bristols was small. Perhaps fewer and fewer people thought their very real virtues made up for what (one has to admit) were fairly bland and lumpish aesthetics except in the case of the Fighter, and fear of buying something from a small company that might vanish at any moment (and now, depressingly, has).
The Fighter looks quite good, and is notably free of the offensive aerodynamic flaps and skirts and so on that make most supercars look like crap and get in everyone's line of sight when they are lumbering slowly about on the road.
I guess they just can't make a living any more, too few punters. People with 'a shedload of readies' are increasingly inclined to be taken for fools by firms like Pagani and Bugatti, spending in the process between two and seven times what a standard V8 Bristol costs.
Loadsamoney, knowImean? Half these people wouldn't recognise a proper car if it bit them in the fundament. They just want the same car as (e.g.) Elton John or Madonna.
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How many 'niche' cars have vanished for the same reason?
Facel, anyone?
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>> I tried to buy a 406 a couple of years ago>>
Surely 10 a cent in France? ;>)
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>> Theres a 401
>> Lovely rumble from the V8 even 20ft back.
No Stu. If it was a 401 it had a 2 litre straight six. If it had a V8 it wasn't a 401. 411 perhaps. There are still quite a lot of those around. Bristols last for ever if maintained.
Another Bristol virtue is light weight for such a big-engined car. Before they started making the bodies out of the GRP which so offends Zero, they were made of aluminium (and had beautifully narrow and consistent panel gaps).
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Oops typo, your right, it would have been a 411.
>>Bristols last for ever if maintained<<
Even with huge panel gaps eh...
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Well they don't rust do they? Think about it :-)
John
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And the spares situation will be ? ? ?
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Have to see whether they wind it up or sell as a going concern. Unlike large car makers, a small one with a good name might find a buyer with new ideas. I expect you could flog something with the name on it if you put slightly more effort than Bristol did, which wouldnt be hard.
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I remember loving the 406 shape and thinking how desirable it was for its time. Then the 410 series came along and managed to make a Jensen Interceptor look stylish...
In my eyes, the styling lost its way: later cars looked like bricks on wheels. No doubt the interiors were nice but who wants to be seen in a brick? Lets face it, if you want restrained styling, you want good looking restrained..not pig ugly .
Ther was a 401 near us - a basket job requiring restoration ... FULL restoration.. Fascinating BUT... oooh the costs.. I remember 40 years ago finding the engine's forefather in a BMW 328 in a London scrapyard... that was nice... but I was a penniless student .. ditto the immaculate AC Ace with Bristol engine in Scotland..
Sic transit gloria mundi - two Latin car names:-)
Last edited by: madf on Fri 4 Mar 11 at 16:48
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Someone should post a photo link to a 401-403 (they were the very best-looking Bristols). Can't do it myself but Google may well come up with something.
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404 and 405
autopendium.com/wikipedia_entries/7784
Not quite so hideous, but still bilious, whats with that stupid hole in the front.
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Gorgeous with the top down though
tinyurl.com/4bj7pku
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no, not even with bits missing.
Tolerable in profile, but thats all.
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>> 401
>> Hideous.
OFFS... you can't talk to some people without getting a nasty shock.
But perhaps you are joking.
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>> But perhaps you are joking.
No, from the front that really looks like a smacked rse.
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I like the Art deco dials and the bakelite knobs, and the aluminium dash.
But thats all.
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And fairly expensive too!
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A 406 with a Peugeot badge wouldn't even show on my radar.
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i would just like to thank AC for fighting the corner
as to zero well as already said he just drives a mitsubitchy so nose nowt
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This is bad news. I'd heard of Bristol but not the Fighter. I hope someone buys out and makes a go of this company. I want a Bristol Fighter in my lotto winner garage :-)
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News today that customer support will continue to be provided. Another contribution to the firm's demise may be that a very uncouth member of pop group owns one (Think of a desert watering hole)
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Appreciate the links from DP. The Evo test images are telling..
www.evo.co.uk/fephp?atures/features/229293/bristol_fighter.html
The fit and finish of the Fighter interior is terrible mixed in with scattered switches, instruments randomly placed below steering wheel & above the head, a van interior light, an add-on stereo from Halfords and ventilation outlets from some 70s car.
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>> The fit and finish of the Fighter interior is terrible
Bah. Pansy :-)
>> Before the first Fighter prototype was constructed, every single component was weighed, right down to cable ties.
>> It helped Bristol to know what should go where to achieve a lower centre of gravity than any Ferrari ... [except enzo]
>> they spec military-grade switchgear at £60 a piece because it’ll last the life of the car.
>> days spent pounding the pavé track at MIRA with the Fighter, and honing the suspension on state-of-the-art kinematic rigs
>> The v10 engine ... Now you understand why Bristol rebuild the whole thing
How can they fail to appeal. They sound like honest engineers doing it for the love of it.
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>> How can they fail to appeal. They sound like honest engineers doing it for the
>> love of it.
So was George Stephenson, but that doesn't mean I want to be lumbered with The Rocket as my transport.
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stolen from Skodas A1 thread
>>You're right again, but have you seen the instrument cluster in the new XJ :-) Want want >>want want !!
>>www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTc3H9b713Y
Now you know why Bristol went bust. You spend considerably less on a stunning Jag and you get this.
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>> Now you know why Bristol went bust. You spend considerably less on a stunning Jag
>> and you get this.
If that were a good reason for going bust, Ferrari and the other supercar manufacturers would have been put under by the Subaru Impreza and Mitsubishi Evo. Spending £40k on either of these gives you something that would wipe the floor with any supercar on any road. But people still buy supercars.
Cars are more than just the sum of their parts, or their on paper performance.
I think Bristol's business model was the problem. Exclusivity is one thing, but deliberately making life awkward for your customers by having one showroom, and not putting your products "out there" into mainstream public consciousness is no way to survive in today's cut throat business environment. I'm not suggesting they should have done anything so vulgar as billboard or TV advertising, but maybe wider participation in magazine road tests, the odd discreet ad in carefully selected publications, even offering factory tours... I'm not a marketeer, but having one run down showroom and expecting your customer to come to you is suicidal in 2011. As has been illustrated by these unfortunate circumstances.
The Fighter could have been a goldmine if it had been marketed and promoted correctly. And how can any manufacturer build one of the truly fastest cars in the world, yet have hardly anyone outside a handful of hardcore car enthusiasts know about it? Take the Morgan Aero 8 for example, which was reviewed by all the major publications, and became well known through subtle, but effective promotional activity. And the Fighter?
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did anyone actually drive one of those at 200mph plus? Did Bristol ever do it?
You know I get the feeling all that stuff was a bit fanciful. None of it was verified.
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If the guy drove the thing, he had virtually nothing to say about how it drove.
Evo schmevo.
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>>a very uncouth member of pop group owns one (Think of a desert watering hole)
D'you mean Rolf Harris? He did summat about a kangaroo and a billabong.
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Has anybody ever actually seen a Morgan Aero 8 outside of a dealer's premises?
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>> Has anybody ever actually seen a Morgan Aero 8 outside of a dealer's premises?
Yes, quite a few of them over the years. Not exactly a common sight, but they are about.
The most up to date figures I can find are from 2008, but they'd sold 740 of them by then.
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Ye finds Morgans were ye Wethers come from, somewhere over the hills in olde England :-)
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I've seen a couple too. But there's no guarantee they weren't being driven by company employees or dealers.
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In the other place there was an occasional poster with the handle Sliding Pillar. Morgan used sliding pillar ifs in 3-wheelers and many four-wheelers, until well into the sixties and even beyond perhaps.
I would expect it to be a high-maintenance system, needing regular cleaning and greasing, and crotchety when badly worn. The very nice looking Lancias of the 1920s also had sliding pillar ifs, as did OMs.
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Thanks bt. I hadn't noticed. Good.
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It's a great shame as Bristols have been around for much the same length of time as I have (born 1948). But as Chas Hallett of Autocar rightly says, 'In tough business conditions, Bristol just wasn’t making the sort of models that luxury sports car buyers want. In which case, it deserves to die'.
It's good to dare to be different. But you have to be different in a way that will attract potential customers, not put them off. One of Bristol's models has ben around since 1961, and it didn't look anything special even then - a big, thirsty two-door saloon that couldn't claim to be a coupe.
Bristol was probably kept going all those years through Tony Crook's private money.
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I have been reading this thread with great interest, as I thought Bristol disappeared sometime in the early fifties.
As I suspect did 91% of those who were even aware of the name. They didn't exactly put themselves about, did they?
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Sadly true. The reason Morgan is still about is because they innovate, even if its down different route to many.
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I think it was Professor Garel Rhys (Pugugly will correct me if I've misspelt him) who said that in 2020 there will be six major car manufacturers left - plus Morgan.
The difference between Morgan and Bristol is that Morgan do indeed produce cars that people want.
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I was in the Kensington area of London about 15 years ago on business and, with time on my hands, I actually entered the Bristol showroom through whose windows I had gazed many times over the years. A male whose age I would have estimated at about 75 (I was in my late fifties at the time) approached me with the memorable introductory line “Will you be buying today?” and when I said that it was unlikely he told me to leave the premises. I'm surprised that they manage to sell 50 cars per year.
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seems to me more people are put out that rubbish rover died than a proper car manufacturer like bristol has gone
sad times
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>> I was in the Kensington area of London about 15 years ago on business and,
>> with time on my hands, I actually entered the Bristol showroom through whose windows I
>> had gazed many times over the years. A male whose age I would have estimated
>> at about 75 (I was in my late fifties at the time) approached me with
>> the memorable introductory line “Will you be buying today?” and when I said that it
>> was unlikely he told me to leave the premises. I'm surprised that they manage to
>> sell 50 cars per year.
I did the same thing at Maranello Concessionaires in Egham. Approached by a sharp suited chap. Said I was simply admiring the cars and not in a position to buy, and did he mind if I just had a nose around. Ended up sitting in the (then) new 550 and talking for about 20 mins with the chap about life in general.
Guess where I will be going to buy my F40 if my finances ever allow it?
Treating people well is good business. If just one of them strikes it rich and comes back to you, it's a sale you wouldn't have made otherwise. I'm not saying you should entertain the whim of every dreamer who walks in the door, but civility and basic hospitality cost nothing. And in an environment like that, there must be a lot of quiet time when you have absolutely nothing more pressing to do.
The more I read / hear about the way Bristol did business, the more it frustrates me that they couldn't grasp the realities of commerce in this day and age, and the more inevitable this sad ending appeared to be.
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Perhaps now someone will come in and do things differently - in car company terms, its a bargin with alotta potential and they certainly have a skilled workforce.
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It has no product, and it has no market.
It has no future.
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you cant beat refusing to sell someone a car because you can
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I know a used car dealer like that. If you ask for money off, he kicks you out. He still did well though. He reasoned people wanted the cars more than he wanted to sell them.
I remember he raised the price of a car once because he liked drivng it so much.
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bum for every seat if you stock wisely :-)
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In several of the forums I've stumbled across discussing this, a few have mentioned that Bristol were still turning away paying customers under the whole 'character suitability' thing in the month before they called in the administrators.
If that's true, then frankly words fail me. :-(
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They were trying to chose those who wouldn't complain and rack up big warranty charges.
Thats not a joke BTW,
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Even as a car lover, I can't feel sorry about Bristol.
They have products which were very expensive and not necessarily offering anything what other competitors couldn't do.
They lacked basic courtesy (as read in this thread).
Their cars were typical weekend cars for ultra-rich people (just one dealer in whole country)!
We are in very tough economic climate!
99.99% people do not know that they existed.
Surprised on their demise? No!
I'd rather get Daihatsu back in UK.
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>> those who wouldn't complain and rack up big warranty charges.
Seems a bit hard to swallow.
Complain about what, exactly? The panel gaps?
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Look AC, they are dead, and deservedly so. Let the stinking corpse alone.
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...they are dead...
Only in administration.
A buyer may be found for all or part of the business.
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there needs to be a business...
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You could easily re-create the Bristol brand in the same vein as Bentley or even Bugatti.
Plenty of aeronautical associations and some up to date tech - people will buy into that if it was sold the right way.
The company as an enterprise didnt work, but thats more to do with the people running it than the brand. I think theres mileage in the brand in the right hands.
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Bently and Bugatti had global recognition.
In most people minds Bristol is a place at the junction of the M4 and M5.
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Perhaps, but if Toyota can create Lexus out of thin air, a smart marketing man can re-create the Bristol brand.
Most normal people dont know about Bugatti though, certainly not until VW made noise about it with the most outlandish car in the world - it had to be or nobody would have noticed.
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If they made small cheap ones, you could buy and claim to have a pair?
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Yes, it is a wonder Jordan hasnt bought a Bristol really isnt it?
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Publicity seeking waste of space and silicone BTW! Her not me! I liked Clarkson's riposte about her *hores Box too
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>> Yes, it is a wonder Jordan hasnt bought a Bristol really isnt it?
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She would not have passed the Bristol test.. Judged unfit to own a new one...
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Pagani have proven that it is possible for an ultra high-end, niche supercar manufacturer to grow from nothing to enjoy global success and profitability in less than two decades. They are about to confidently launch a £1 million model after tremendous success with the Zonda, a product that not only competed on equal terms with the established players, but became a schoolboy's bedroom pin up across the world, and built a profile all of its own in the marketplace.
Pagani have always been press-friendly, and have been happy to have their cars appear on motoring shows, and in the motoring rags, as well as to take the time to entertain journos at the factory and ensure presence at major shows and events. They are smart enough to realise that the press, tricky as it can be, is key to building their image, to put their products out in the marketplace, and most critically of all, to sow that initial seed of desire in the hearts of many of their target customers.
And they have achieved this with no heritage or brand image, other than what they have built from scratch in the last 19 years. The challenge this presented when going up against Ferrari, Porsche, Maserati and all those other brands steeped in sporting history and "pedigree", in probably the most brand/image obsessed market of all, surely cannot be overstated.
Bristol, had it been run properly, could have positioned itself, with the Fighter, as a modern supercar manufacturer, taking all the best bits from its engineering led, hand crafted heritage, while at the same time embracing a new generation of customer looking for a new generation of car. The single showroom / turning away of customers approach should have been consigned to the dark ages where it belonged.
The Fighter seemed to go down well with most people who drove it, and its engineering integrity was a match for anything out there. Given a bit of attention to the styling / detailing, and the right promotion, it could have been a winner.
Classic British motor industry balls-up!
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>> they are dead, and deservedly so.
They may or may not be dead and they may or may not deserve it. That doesn't excuse people attacking the marque (or defending it come to that) on the basis of a deep fund of ignorance.
Of course no one needs an excuse for something like that. It's a pity really because meaningless blather does seem to be creeping all over the land.
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Check who posts the blather. It is mostly the view of one member - not the lot of us
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>> Check who posts the blather. It is mostly the view of one member - not
>> the lot of us
It seems to be the view of the people who never bought enough Bristols to keep them in business.
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Zeddo, is the fact of the matter that firms go out of business because they make lousy cars and stay in business because they make good ones?
Me don't tink so bra. We both know there's more to it than that.
I agree though that defenders of Bristols on this site, including me, have no more hands-on experience of the things than the anti-Bristol rottweilers. I did get a couple of lifts in 2 litre ones in my youth but that hardly counts.
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Its history AC. Long time back, in the 40s and 50s they made with some panache and class, depsite being ugly SOB's, but then most were then. Driven by cads probably.
gentlemen prefer something more for their money now that that.
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>> gentlemen prefer something more for their money now that that.
I'm sure they do Zeddo old fruit, especially now that that.
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William Chia, the group’s Director of Operations, said: “Bristol Cars is a British institution and an important part of our national motoring heritage. Over the next few months we will start to reveal the details of our plans to combine Bristol Cars’ tradition and iconic marque with Frazer-Nash’s pioneering technology to showcase our cutting-edge electric and range-extended powertrains."
So an Hybrid Electric Bristol.
Thats a good fit.
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good good
just read the companies profile,they sound like just the kind of company that can make it work and british and not holden to shareholders
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Bristol Cars had no shareholders either...
Might be a good idea if they did.
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Bristol - Bristol Cars in administration - Zero
