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Thread Author: Alanovich Replies: 7

 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Alanovich
I've just returned from a week in Belgrade, where I had the use of a Citroen C4 (not the recently launched one, but the original shape) in 1.6HDi form. This came as a surprise to me as the agency I use usually give me a Megane or an Astra, neither of which I particularly like, but this agency are substantially cheaper than the mainstream big names ones, and I always get a cheery, personal service from them. It's always the same two folks on the desk, and they always recognise us and greet us in a very friendly manner. They're called “Yu Tim” rent a car, if anyone is minded to visit Belgrade and hire a car. Highly recommended.

On to the car. I was pleasantly surprised by the build quality of the car, and the remarkably smooth, powerful and quiet way in which it went about its business, even with a full load of people and luggage on board. In fact, I assumed it was a larger petrol engined, perhaps a 2.0, car until I glanced idly at the rental documentation and saw 1.6HDi on the paperwork.

I was so taken aback I even went and checked inside the fuel filler flap, lo and behold it was indeed marked "Diesel". Then, back behind the wheel, I scanned the instrument panel for the tell-tale ignition coily light which I assumed I had missed - there was none. Never seen that before on a diesel.

The vehicle was showing 37000k on the clock, not exactly brand new for a hire car, but it was showing almost no signs of wear and tear, again this impressed me as I had expected a modern, smallish Citroen to be flimsier, evidently unfairly so. It felt very robust, easily a match for such rivals as the Focus and Golf in my opinion. And superior to the Megane and Astra (H).

Even Mrs A (a dyed in the wool VW Golf fan) liked driving the car, she especially liked the lightness of steering and gearing (she usually hates manuals), and the electronic instrument display, along with the comfort afforded by the seats, both front and rear. She says she’ll consider one to replace the Golf should the need arise. Praise indeed. Rear passenger space is a little cramped, and boot space a tad restricted, along with poorish rearward visibility. But none of these gripes are terminal.

The car was fitted with 4 winter tyres (it’s the law there now to have at least two from November to March, on the driven wheels naturally), and these were Maxxis “MASPW Spike” tyres, without the optional studs fitted. All I can say to these is wow, wow and wow again. Whilst we were in town, it started snowing on the Monday, and it was still belting down when we left on Friday. We drove on fresh snow, compacted slush, ice, you name it. Our apartment is in a particularly hilly part of the city too and the car never felt like it was going to lose any grip, even in dreadful conditions going up or down quite steep hills. Utterly, utterly brilliant. I am most definitely going to order some for one of our cars when the summer comes and the prices drop. The snow, though heavy and constant, didn’t cause one single problem on the city network, even in parts which remained unploughed and untreated. Everyone’s got proper tyres, so no one gets stuck. And no one needs a 4x4 to cope with it.

Sadly (from my point of view as a crappy-old-car spod), Belgrade’s fleet of cars seems to be getting progressively more modern all the time. The number of Yugos and other old eastern bloc cars is decreasing quite quickly, although they are still pretty common. Quite a few Skoda Estelles and the like rattling round still. The older British cars which used to be common, like Avengers and Marinas, seem to have died off now, I didn’t see any at all on this trip. Although the number of Renault 4s on the road is quite staggering. Testament to the genius of the design and build of that model. There is one on virtually every street still.
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Boxsterboy
Yes, the Ford/PSA 1.6 HDI is a very sweet engine, and it's good to hear that the rental car abuse hadn't sullied it or the rest of the car. I don't think the new C4 is a patch on the original. I say this without having driven a new one - just that the shape seems to lack all character.
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - ....
>> I was so taken aback I even went and checked inside the fuel filler flap,
>> lo and behold it was indeed marked "Diesel". Then, back behind the wheel, I scanned
>> the instrument panel for the tell-tale ignition coily light which I assumed I had missed
>> - there was none. Never seen that before on a diesel.
>>
If you listen very carefully when opening the drivers door you will hear the pump priming and this is when the glow plugs go on. By the time you get in and put the key in it's ready to go, no need to wait.
Downside is if you misfuel, opening the drivers door is enough to start sucking the petrol through the lines :(
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Alanovich
One thing I forgot to mention was the novel and extremely amusing substance they had filled the windscreen washer bottle with.

No normal screen wash for the Serbs, oh no. This car was filled with "Rakija", a clear plum brandy which is considered the national drink. The smell was unmistakable! It did a pretty good job of clearing the screen too, although one of my passengers requested that I adjust the nozzle on the passenger side to spray down the side of the car, so that he could stick his head out of the window and have a wee snifter when the screen needed washing.

The children and women in the car protested heavily about the "awful" smell, and I did wonder what the fuzz would think of me were they to pull me over shortly after spritzing the screen with hooch.
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Zero
>> One thing I forgot to mention was the novel and extremely amusing substance they had
>> filled the windscreen washer bottle with.
>>
>> No normal screen wash for the Serbs, oh no. This car was filled with "Rakija",
>> a clear plum brandy which is considered the national drink. The smell was unmistakable!

I can beat that with the Clio I hired in Madeira, where the washer bottle had been filled with local brew AFTER it had been filtered by some humans kidneys.
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Skoda
>> And no one needs a 4x4 to cope with it.

You crack me up Alanovic! Enjoyable read :-)
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - Redviper
my partner has the 1.6 HDi in the "old" C4 we have the VTR+ Trim which has the autobox and paddle shifts (that never get used)

Its done 40k miles now with very little mechanical sympathy driving, and its still going strong.

Yes the pre-heating is done when you open the drivers door - if you listen carefully you can hear the fuel pump priming (i think), so that you can get in and turn the key - no coil light (at least ive never seen one)

the engine is smooth, i could not believe it was a desiel when we 1st got it.


Edit
I did not see gmac's post regarding the fuel priming
Last edited by: Redviper on Tue 1 Mar 11 at 12:14
 Citroen C4 - Winter tyres and other notes from Serbia - oilburner
Interesting stuff. I might have overlooked the C4 before, but not now. Thanks A.
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