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What an excellent project and one that if it was supported by the Insurance Companies could eventually cut costs for young drivers.
Pat
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I reckon that starting kids driving at an earlier age has a lot of benefits, not least of all taking away some of the mystique, having them take responsibility early and letting them ease into it (rather than a mad dash to get on the road ASAP at 17).
I've always thought that I would like to get my kids in a car at maybe 12 (obviously on private land, and I'd probably splash out on some kind of old driving school car with dual controls).
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Then what do think you about this news?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359751/The-22-000-insurance-premiums-pricing-young-male-drivers-road.html
PS: Daily Mail link :o)
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All the daily mail illustrates is that the insurance companies do not have a mechanism to say "go away, we don't want to insure you" that's the real message behind the huge quotes.
It is possible to get insurance for 18 year old lads but it will always be expensive although not as expensive as the examples in the article because even the sensible ones never really lose the effects of the testosterone before about 20 or 21 years of age and the statistics make that quite clear, they are more likely to have accidents where they are at fault.
Initial training may help a bit but it's not about skills it's about personalities and growing up.
Can any male member of this forum honestly claim they never did anything stupid behind the wheel in their teenage years?
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>> Can any male member of this forum honestly claim they never did anything stupid behind
>> the wheel in their teenage years?
Certainly not here, I was as daft as the best of them
So is my son, tho at 21 he is calming a little.
It has ever been thus, young men will tear about and show
Off on anything
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I did one of those young driver courses at Brands Hatch years ago now in a clappe out XR3. Highlight was some kid drivng off into the undergrowth.
Well worth doing.
First drove a car when I was 11 in a huge beach carpark in France in a Citroen XM auto.
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Overall I agree that extra skills courses are worth doing but they can make teenage lads feel more indestructible.
My younger son's initial comment on completing pass plus, for example, was that makes me a better driver than you(me) as I am more qualified.
He did learn truth the hard way but thankfully not at huge cost or damage to himself
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>> My younger son's initial comment on completing pass plus
Ha! At least he did extra training, below the age of 20 i was the worlds best driver bar none. Makes me feel stupid when i look back.
>> extra skills courses
For me it would need to have been some kind of social learning exercise to help me snap out of the invincible stage and develop my driving skills. A group of new drivers my age.
It would need to be attractive, more so than just cheaper insurance - maybe something like time on a track encouraged to boot it and get that urge out of the system in a safer environment, then base the education on the loss of control inevitably experienced.
There would need to have been girls present not just boys. It couldn't have been expensive. Some of the content would have to be shocking, 30mph head on crash for example, in detail.
I think my driving would have improved sooner - i would have learned that you never stop learning how to drive.
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I think that one of the factors which keeps you out of trouble on the roads is being able to see soon enough, and react to, approaching hazards. You only achieve that ability after years of experience of driving on roads. Young drivers don't look far enough ahead, and insurance companies load them accordingly.
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cars of today are too fast and usually can stop too quickly
unfortunately a lot of kids kill themselves and all their mates in the car with them
as i type this a good friend of mines best friend is critical in hospital after a young man hit him at at least 70mph (police words) in a 40mph
so i dont approve of giving kids the idea of skills before they grow hair (lads)
they should wait until they are of age and pay for professional drivers to teach them and yes i know the standard of driving instructers is at an all time low
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